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35 minutes ago, trashyhound said:

The rest of 4a should pay him not to go to Henderson. With the talent pool they have he'd have their D lights out year 1. Then again Henderson usually plays decent D, it's that O that has always puzzled me.

Creativity does wonders . Offensive minds wouldn’t think twice signing up with a true winner. 

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Loyal supporters - go sit in the middle of the Carthage fans during a game and you will hear at least 20 people who think the can call a better offensive game than Little Belichick.  SMH. But in

I’m sure “We should have punted!” comes out from time to time.

This..... Winning never gets old.   And Carthage does it more than any program in East Texas.  And it's not even close.

18 hours ago, CarthDawg77 said:

If & when Surratt &/or Preston decide to leave, they’ll leave; In the mean time, they are building a record here that continues to grow & who knows how many more times they’ll lift The Trophy for Carthage? That is history in the making, in my opinion. They could set records at Carthage that might stand for decades... Maybe forever! 😉 

This...the grass is always greener until it's not.  What's Traylor doing these days?  Seems he's bounced around quite a bit since leaving the dynasty he created at Gilmer.  Not at all saying that would happen to Coach S and Coach P but there aren't any guarantees it won't either.  Coaching is a fickle profession.

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6 minutes ago, DAWG91 said:

This...the grass is always greener until it's not.  What's Traylor doing these days?  Seems he's bounced around quite a bit since leaving the dynasty he created at Gilmer.  Not at all saying that would happen to Coach S amd Coach P but there aren't any guarantees it won't either.  Coaching is a fickle profession.

Head coach at UTSA is not a bad gig.  But you are correct, no guarantees when changing jobs. 

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19 minutes ago, cotton84 said:

Head coach at UTSA is not a bad gig.  But you are correct, no guarantees when changing jobs. 

Would he have left Gilmer dynasty to coach at UTSA? Maybe,  I don't know.  Only he can answer that one.

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30 minutes ago, cotton84 said:

Head coach at UTSA is not a bad gig.  But you are correct, no guarantees when changing jobs. 

He didn’t start out that way . Surratt probably won’t move until his kid graduates. Then again, I assume life is pretty good in Carthage for him. $$ not an issue and I expect he is probably well respected lol.

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19 minutes ago, DAWG91 said:

Would he have left Gilmer dynasty to coach at UTSA? Maybe,  I don't know.  Only he can answer that one.

Depends on if retirement money is important to him, amongst other things. 
$800,000 his first year and 5% raise the next 4 years ain’t bad. 
And yes, if he stayed at Gilmer, he would have had a nice retirement income compared to most. 

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49 minutes ago, cotton84 said:

Depends on if retirement money is important to him, amongst other things. 
$800,000 his first year and 5% raise the next 4 years ain’t bad. 
And yes, if he stayed at Gilmer, he would have had a nice retirement income compared to most. 

It will take 3 years at least of combining Surratt and Preston’s incomes to even get close to what Traylor will make in one year.

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23 minutes ago, BuckNut said:

It will take 3 years at least of combining Surratt and Preston’s incomes to even get close to what Traylor will make in one year.

Money isn’t Everything.... At least that’s what I keep telling myself!😳😜

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2 hours ago, cotton84 said:

Depends on if retirement money is important to him, amongst other things. 
$800,000 his first year and 5% raise the next 4 years ain’t bad. 
And yes, if he stayed at Gilmer, he would have had a nice retirement income compared to most. 

You can build up a pretty nice nest egg making $800K/ year. Let’s say next year he gets UTSA to 7-4. Who’s to say bigger jobs don’t come calling. I doubt TRS compares to what a guy can build up making 7 figures. 

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4 hours ago, DAWG91 said:

This...the grass is always greener until it's not.  What's Traylor doing these days?  Seems he's bounced around quite a bit since leaving the dynasty he created at Gilmer.  Not at all saying that would happen to Coach S and Coach P but there aren't any guarantees it won't either.  Coaching is a fickle profession.

Look at it how you want, bounced? Or gained experience?  On his way to making a million $ a year. Idk if that was his plan, but that’s some green grass 

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1 hour ago, Maineman1988 said:

Look at it how you want, bounced? Or gained experience?  On his way to making a million $ a year. Idk if that was his plan, but that’s some green grass 

Gained experience bouncing around.  Wish him nothing but the best.  Maybe he can make a go of it in san antone,  and yes that's really green grass, no arguments there.

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On 11/21/2020 at 11:17 AM, Sportsfanatic1 said:

He's been offered multiple jobs and he's stayed put every time. Him and Suratt came to Carthage together. It's gonna take something huge for him to leave.

Probably content with chasing perfection rather than chasing wins so he doesn't have to move his family.

When the kids graduate, a change will be much more interesting.

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Sometimes you can content on what you already have and maybe a reason why they have turned down multiple jobs. The Grass your standing on could be just as green .
 

1. Outstanding winning program that always is in contention.

2. Great facilities and Good assistants helping you in the goal. 
 

3. One of the highest paid in your job so not like it chump change. 
 

4. Go down as the Goat if not already there.

5. Loyal supporters .

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1 hour ago, AllGoodNamesRGone said:

Sometimes you can content on what you already have and maybe a reason why they have turned down multiple jobs. The Grass your standing on could be just as green .
 

1. Outstanding winning program that always is in contention.

2. Great facilities and Good assistants helping you in the goal. 
 

3. One of the highest paid in your job so not like it chump change. 
 

4. Go down as the Goat if not already there.

5. Loyal supporters .

Loyal supporters - go sit in the middle of the Carthage fans during a game and you will hear at least 20 people who think the can call a better offensive game than Little Belichick.  SMH.

But in general you are correct. 

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18 minutes ago, cotton84 said:

Loyal supporters - go sit in the middle of the Carthage fans during a game and you will hear at least 20 people who think the can call a better offensive game than Little Belichick.  SMH.

But in general you are correct. 

I’m sure “We should have punted!” comes out from time to time.

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1 hour ago, cotton84 said:

Loyal supporters - go sit in the middle of the Carthage fans during a game and you will hear at least 20 people who think the can call a better offensive game than Little Belichick.  SMH.

But in general you are correct. 

I wouldn’t question anything if the guy had 8 rings lol. Heck some schools just want score a touchdown.

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2 hours ago, PantherNation2015 said:

I’m sure “We should have punted!” comes out from time to time.

That’s funny! But I’d love to know what his conversion rate is on 4th downs. He always has the absolute perfect play drawn up and they convert much more often than not as far as I can recall.

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5 hours ago, PantherNation2015 said:

I’m sure “We should have punted!” comes out from time to time.

Oh man, it’s bad. “Run the ball!”. “Why are we going for it?” “Stop trying that!” “Put so and so in!”

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There is zero chance the Carthage faithful question Surratt or make critical comments as often as other teams’ fans. I seriously doubt with the skins on the wall Surratt & Co have the Bulldog fans question them nearly as often as other fans question their coaching staffs.

Every now and then I find myself thinking maybe we should punt in this situation and then Carthage easily picks up the first down and I immediately remind myself to hush and trust Surratt. 

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Besides all the positive things that has been listed about being at a great program there are a couple of things that, if you ask any assistant who made this jump to AD/Head football coach somewhere else and they list two things that they probably didn't even consider when taking the job but turned out to be HUGE!!! 

1. Being responsible for the success/failure of all the  "other" sports that are being played. In the end HE is responsible for hiring good coaches and implementing an off season program for ALL the athletes (girls and boys). Almost every AD that I have coached under repeated the same thing...If I wasn't responsible for the other sports this would be a great job...they all take ten times more flak about the other sports than football.

2. Not being able to hire quality assistants. Especially at smaller schools where the budget and number of coaches are limited. Especially in todays "new normal" classroom setting. It is extremely hard to find quality, loyal coaches today and keep them when they can't give them well earned raises...and it's going to get harder.

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On 11/21/2020 at 11:17 AM, Sportsfanatic1 said:

He's been offered multiple jobs and he's stayed put every time. Him and Suratt came to Carthage together. It's gonna take something huge for him to leave.

What jobs was he offered? People always say this but never say what jobs were offered to him.

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23 minutes ago, ctown81 said:

What jobs was he offered? People always say this but never say what jobs were offered to him.

Since your a Carthage alum or whatever it may be it shouldn't be hard for you to find out.

I'm just friends of some big time supporters and some of the parents who have/are playing there or have played there. That's as far as I will go on the situation on this board.

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2 minutes ago, Sportsfanatic1 said:

Since your a Carthage alum or whatever it may be it shouldn't be hard for you to find out.

I'm just friends of some big time supporters and some of the parents who have/are playing there or have played there. That's as far as I will go on the situation on this board.

This makes no sense. Why is it too secret who wants to hire him? What harm does knowing doing? Why say it ,of you're not willing to give the information?

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Just now, NODAYSOFFTX said:

He needs to go to Tyler high

Na screw that, winona would welcome him with open arms 

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