Olduy Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 A Texas State Rep is filing a bill in the Legislature to put Secession to a vote of the people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 In voting yes.....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I would vote yes as well, but I'm voting against President Abbott for anything. https://www.kxan.com/news/texas-politics/gov-greg-abbott-on-2024-presidential-bid-well-see-what-happens/ . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I had to do an assignment on this matter in Tx Govt this semester. When Texas was admitted into the union the Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas states that it can divide itself into 4-5 smaller states, but couldn’t leave the union. Later, in 1869 in Supreme Court case Texas vs White the SC ruled that states could not secede. In 2006 a screenwriter posed a question of secession the the SCOTUS and justice Antonin Scalia wrote, “The answer is clear,” Scalia wrote. “If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede. I don’t like it, but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShadowKnows Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: I had to do an assignment on this matter in Tx Govt this semester. When Texas was admitted into the union the Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas states that it can divide itself into 4-5 smaller states, but couldn’t leave the union. Later, in 1869 in Supreme Court case Texas vs White the SC ruled that states could not secede. In 2006 a screenwriter posed a question of secession the the SCOTUS and justice Antonin Scalia wrote, “The answer is clear,” Scalia wrote. “If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede. I don’t like it, but it is what it is. I understand what you are saying, but I don’t think you understand what the succession movement is saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, TheShadowKnows said: I understand what you are saying, but I don’t think you understand what the succession movement is saying I understand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTman7 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 If the other states aren't bound to abide by the Constitution of the United States, then why should Texas abide by it, Resolutions, or SC rulings? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I am ready to put my guns to work for the succession. As long as I can run for President of Texas. I mean, I wasn't born in Texas, but I got here as soon as I could. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 hours ago, DB2point0 said: I had to do an assignment on this matter in Tx Govt this semester. When Texas was admitted into the union the Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas states that it can divide itself into 4-5 smaller states, but couldn’t leave the union. Later, in 1869 in Supreme Court case Texas vs White the SC ruled that states could not secede. In 2006 a screenwriter posed a question of secession the the SCOTUS and justice Antonin Scalia wrote, “The answer is clear,” Scalia wrote. “If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede. I don’t like it, but it is what it is. And he is correct, we don’t “have” the right. We will have to take it, or let them destroy us to keep it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olduy Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 hours ago, DB2point0 said: I had to do an assignment on this matter in Tx Govt this semester. When Texas was admitted into the union the Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas states that it can divide itself into 4-5 smaller states, but couldn’t leave the union. Later, in 1869 in Supreme Court case Texas vs White the SC ruled that states could not secede. In 2006 a screenwriter posed a question of secession the the SCOTUS and justice Antonin Scalia wrote, “The answer is clear,” Scalia wrote. “If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede. I don’t like it, but it is what it is. But we are a “ voluntary Union of States”. If we no longer volunteer........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 It brings up many strange scenarios. Would the US send troops? Oh wait, 1 in 9 in our military are from Texas. You really think they’ll attack their home State? Just one of countless conundrums. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTman7 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 10 hours ago, DannyZuco said: I am ready to put my guns to work for the succession. As long as I can run for President of Texas. I mean, I wasn't born in Texas, but I got here as soon as I could. Automatic disqualifier!! Sorry dude. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTman7 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Hagar said: It brings up many strange scenarios. Would the US send troops? Oh wait, 1 in 9 in our military are from Texas. You really think they’ll attack their home State? Just one of countless conundrums. I am prior service military. If this scenario had happened while I was enlisted, it would definitely be a CONUNDRUM. I would not be involved in "attacking" or "invading" my home state under this scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 12 hours ago, TTman7 said: If the other states aren't bound to abide by the Constitution of the United States, then why should Texas abide by it, Resolutions, or SC rulings? This. If we become a banana republic that refuses to abide by it's own constitution, just as these states that are being sued for not following their own laws, then they will have been the one's who seceded, not the other way around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTman7 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 6 hours ago, DAWG91 said: This. If we become a banana republic that refuses to abide by it's own constitution, just as these states that are being sued for not following their own laws, then they will have been the one's who seceded, not the other way around. I agree. You think there'd be a war shortly after the Secession? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, TTman7 said: I agree. You think there'd be a war shortly after the Secession? No 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTman7 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, DAWG91 said: No I don't either. They don't want none of Texas!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, TTman7 said: I don't either. They don't want none of Texas!!! Nope. Notice you don't see antifa and blm acting like fools in Tx. There's a reason for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTman7 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, DAWG91 said: Nope. Notice you don't see antifa and blm acting like fools in Tx. There's a reason for that. Well, actually, they TRIED. In Austin. Until one of them got shot by a patriot. Then they went bye bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, TTman7 said: Well, actually, they TRIED. In Austin. Until one of them got shot by a patriot. Then they went bye bye. There's your reason. Lol. We are armed. We have open carry. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 9 hours ago, TTman7 said: I am prior service military. If this scenario had happened while I was enlisted, it would definitely be a CONUNDRUM. I would not be involved in "attacking" or "invading" my home state under this scenario. I was too. No way I’d be attacking Texans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlahBlah Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 9 hours ago, TTman7 said: I am prior service military. If this scenario had happened while I was enlisted, it would definitely be a CONUNDRUM. I would not be involved in "attacking" or "invading" my home state under this scenario. Most of Non Texan-born soldiers wants nothing to do with Texas after just one Texas Summer. They are like you can have it ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTman7 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, BlahBlah said: Most of Non Texan-born soldiers wants nothing to do with Texas after just one Texas Summer. They are like you can have it ! Yes, Sir. Advantage => Texas. Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Secede!!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Just now, Youngcoach123 said: Secede!!!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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