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  1. 1. Who wins?

    • Alabama
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1 hour ago, WETSU said:

You think bama is the only team in the country that's gotten better? 

A&Ms offense is MUCH better than it was in week 2. Hell I don't think bama would have time to score 48 let alone beat us by 48. A&M would control the clock and lose by 17. 

And why so butt hurt about a conversation? I know your team hasn't sniffed the playoffs but the 1st team out always has a meaningful debate to be had. 

Man I don't want to get into this peeing contest, but let's not forget the Aggies were down 20-17 in the 4th quarter to a 3 loss UNC team that was missing several key starters on both sides of the ball just over a week ago.

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Yea I too have noticed that when A&M lost by 28 it was harped on and I think single handedly kept them from the playoffs. If they had lost by 17 they probably get in but 28 scared the committee. T

Smoke screen for Fields rib injury. The Big 10 has changed the rules all year to protect Ohio St and they’ll do it again if Sankey let’s them. 

Give me a team of mostly 99-rating players and I will crush y'all on Madden! 

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1 minute ago, Lhornfan said:

Man I don't want to get into this peeing contest, but let's not forget the Aggies were down 20-17 in the 4th quarter to a 3 loss UNC team that was missing several key starters on both sides of the ball just over a week ago.

To be fair A&M was also down 3 starters lol. 

I see your point, but my point is that the argument continued to be that Bama blew out A&M so A&M must not have been as good as ND and Ohio st. Bama beat them both by about the same margin as what they beat A&M and A&M beat the only other common opponent UNC about the same as what ND did... It was two score spread for both games thanks to late TDs by both A&M and ND. Players playing or not. We can't discuss the players being out only when it benefits the team in question. The players out didnt matter for ND when they beat a undermanned clemson. 

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13 minutes ago, MavGrad99 said:

Best OL, 2 top 5 WRs, possibly the best RB, a serviceable QB, and a damned good secondary 

And most importantly:  a little troll of a grouchy dude patrolling the sideline! Players and assistants have came and went but I'll Nicky still gets em coached up better than anybody. 

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2 hours ago, WETSU said:

You think bama is the only team in the country that's gotten better? 

A&Ms offense is MUCH better than it was in week 2. Hell I don't think bama would have time to score 48 let alone beat us by 48. A&M would control the clock and lose by 17. 

And why so butt hurt about a conversation? I know your team hasn't sniffed the playoffs but the 1st team out always has a meaningful debate to be had. 

For someone who often claims to be so smart, you sure missed the part where I said “might” beat you by 48.  Might not.  But you were comparing your game from early October to the games last night.  That’s where the stupidity occurred.  

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2 hours ago, JohnnyFootball said:

I'm telling you dude. He's had a rough day and is trying to take it out on you.

It's absolutely hilarious... In a game thread about Ohio State and Bama, he's still looking for some gotcha moment regarding A&M. 

Can you imagine having a team/fanbase own that much space in your head, completely rent-free? 🤣🤣🤣

He had a stupid moment and you’re joining him.  Had he, and you, read what I wrote instead of what you thought I said you’d understand. 

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1 hour ago, Lhornfan said:

Man I don't want to get into this peeing contest, but let's not forget the Aggies were down 20-17 in the 4th quarter to a 3 loss UNC team that was missing several key starters on both sides of the ball just over a week ago.

It’s not a contest, I just showed him the flaw in his comparison.  He took it the wrong way and the other frat boy had to jump in the fight

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1 hour ago, WETSU said:

To be fair A&M was also down 3 starters lol. 

I see your point, but my point is that the argument continued to be that Bama blew out A&M so A&M must not have been as good as ND and Ohio st. Bama beat them both by about the same margin as what they beat A&M and A&M beat the only other common opponent UNC about the same as what ND did... It was two score spread for both games thanks to late TDs by both A&M and ND. Players playing or not. We can't discuss the players being out only when it benefits the team in question. The players out didnt matter for ND when they beat a undermanned clemson. 

But aTm lost early season and in the regular season, which is what gets you to the playoff,  comparing that to something that happened after the playoff selection doesn’t even matter, except to those who think it matters.  It doesn’t matter.  

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2 hours ago, MavGrad99 said:

Best OL, 2 top 5 WRs, possibly the best RB, a serviceable QB, and a damned good secondary 

Give me a team of mostly 99-rating players and I will crush y'all on Madden! 

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1 hour ago, LOL said:

Give me a team of mostly 99-rating players and I will crush y'all on Madden! 

Seriously. Mac Jones is good, but he stood in a huge pocket and threw the ball to athletic freaks all game. I don't think he's all that special of a player. 

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3 minutes ago, JohnnyFootball said:

Seriously. Mac Jones is good, but he stood in a huge pocket and threw the ball to athletic freaks all game. I don't think he's all that special of a player. 

Agreed. 

But I'm also going to be destroyed for saying this, but the same can be said for Smith. Watching smith last night I only saw 1 play that made me thing wow that was a heisman play. Specifically the three TDs were scheme alone. Literally EVERY wr from both teams would have scored on those 3 plays. And that's been the story for him all season. Sark has been a magician at getting the ball with no one around him. And its not because he's just some next level route runner. They are just amazingly well set up and schemed plays. 

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10 minutes ago, JohnnyFootball said:

I disagree. I think the scheme works BECAUSE of players like Smith. Or at the very least they help one another out. 

I think this is accurate. The scheme from the play caller assists the players and the players make the OC look good.

When Sarkisian gets to Texas the UT offense will not automatically be Alabama and whomever thinks it will be needs have some sense slapped into them.

The skill positions at Alabama are top notch, but what makes that offense go is their OL and UT’s OL is nowhere near the Bama OL not even close. So, I’d bet the UT offense will improve from 2020 to 2021, especially by the end of the season and maybe even enough so that Texas can actually separate from teams and not have to try to win five games in OT (ridiculous Herman....), but not enough that they easily win the Big 12 and look like Alabama West. 

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Aren't you guys sort of proving my point though? This offense doesn't go because smith just dominates everyone and carries the team.. The offense looks good because its got first rounders at 2/3 wr spots, a first rd qb, probably 2 first round oline and 2 others that will be drafted high... The scheme works because its loaded. Every player looks good because every player has an equally dangerous player playing opposite him taking away from scheming one guy. I'm agreeing with you guys that players make the scheme. What I'm saying is that because of the scheme and others around him it made smith look like the best player alive last night. Hell he's not even the best player on his own offense IMO lol. 

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I think we’re definitely in agreement that Smith is made better, because of all the other studs in the other positions. 
I think the scheme is awesome and I think their players are too. It’s just an all around beautiful thing to watch. That beatdown made me think I was at AT&T watching Carthage play! 😃😁😎

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20 minutes ago, WETSU said:

Aren't you guys sort of proving my point though? This offense doesn't go because smith just dominates everyone and carries the team.. The offense looks good because its got first rounders at 2/3 wr spots, a first rd qb, probably 2 first round oline and 2 others that will be drafted high... The scheme works because its loaded. Every player looks good because every player has an equally dangerous player playing opposite him taking away from scheming one guy. I'm agreeing with you guys that players make the scheme. What I'm saying is that because of the scheme and others around him it made smith look like the best player alive last night. Hell he's not even the best player on his own offense IMO lol. 

This supports my previous argument about having Waddle out, Smith stepping up, and then the next man in line taking over, etc. that seemed to put some people off.

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32 minutes ago, Hookemhorns88 said:

This supports my previous argument about having Waddle out, Smith stepping up, and then the next man in line taking over, etc. that seemed to put some people off.

I mean Smith was playing before that too. Waddle + Smith > Smith 

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57 minutes ago, JohnnyFootball said:

I mean Smith was playing before that too. Waddle + Smith > Smith 

No.  The point being is that whichever 2 or 3 WR's that Alabama rolls out there with, it does not matter because as of right now they collectively are all heads and shoulders above the rest in CFB.

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1 hour ago, JohnnyFootball said:

I mean Smith was playing before that too. Waddle + Smith > Smith 

Yet look how much better the Cleveland Browns are playing without Odell Beckham. Common sense will tell us that it is better to have more talent than less at WR, but that position alone can make things difficult for offenses to thrive due to QBs forcing balls to WRs they thing they should throw it to instead of what their read tells them. I'm not talking about not having great talent, but maybe... just maybe Devonta Smith, John Metchie, and the #4 WR is better for the offense than those two and Jaylen Waddle. It's hard to make three studs happy. An analogy could be taking our best college basketball talent in the US and losing to international teams that have team chemistry. Our starting 5 is certainly better overall, but not better as a team.

PS - as a coach, I'd still want all three on the field. I'm just playing a little Devil's Advocate. 

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43 minutes ago, Hookemhorns88 said:

No.  The point being is that whichever 2 or 3 WR's that Alabama rolls out there with, it does not matter because as of right now they collectively are all heads and shoulders above the rest in CFB.

Thats a poor take... No. There are not just infinite Jaylon Waddles all over bamas roster. If they were they would be beating out meachie. If there were you wouldn't see a 75% waddle getting meaningful snaps in a title game. Don't let stars fool you. Not ever stud they recruit pans out. And waddle is a superstar not just a quality guy. 

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1 hour ago, JohnnyFootball said:

I mean Smith was playing before that too. Waddle + Smith > Smith 

I've been trying to make this point, but apparently there are Waddles in Bamas WR room 🙄

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21 minutes ago, WETSU said:

Thats a poor take... No. There are not just infinite Jaylon Waddles all over bamas roster. If they were they would be beating out meachie. If there were you wouldn't see a 75% waddle getting meaningful snaps in a title game. Don't let stars fool you. Not ever stud they recruit pans out. And waddle is a superstar not just a quality guy. 

Saban said that Waddle played more than what they intended for him to play, particularly in the 3Q, due to the injuries of Smith and Metchie.  They knew that he was not 100% and specifically designed plays where he would not have to do much lateral movement.  It was clear to the world that he would not be an impact in the game with him limping around out there.

IMO Waddle wanted to play and they let him.

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9 minutes ago, Hookemhorns88 said:

Saban said that Waddle played more than what they intended for him to play, particularly in the 3Q, due to the injuries of Smith and Metchie.  They knew that he was not 100% and specifically designed plays where he would not have to do much lateral movement.  It was clear to the world that he would not be an impact in the game with him limping around out there.

IMO Waddle wanted to play and they let him

so... Is it plug and play or not? Couldn't they have just sat all 3 and been just as well off? I mean next man up is what you keep saying. 

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1 hour ago, WETSU said:

so... Is it plug and play or not? Couldn't they have just sat all 3 and been just as well off? I mean next man up is what you keep saying. 

Smith basically said, "next man up", in his post-game interview.  He would know more about it than me since he sees these guys at practice.

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1 hour ago, WETSU said:

so... Is it plug and play or not? Couldn't they have just sat all 3 and been just as well off? I mean next man up is what you keep saying. 

Ok old TRUEBLUE hasn’t got on here to crow about last night’s game just yet, because I think the performance by BAMA pretty much speaks for itself. It doesn’t appear that there is just a whole lot of separation between Notre Dame, A&M, Clemson and Ohio State. I think any one of those teams could beat one another on any given night. As far as BAMA’s depth at WR, we did not have a plug and play replacement for Waddle or Smith. Both of those guys are generational talents. I think the situation last night backs up what I’ve been saying on the A&M thread: if the Aggies are going to get over the hump and win the west in the next three years, they need to do it in 2021. John Metchie, Slade Bolden, Jahleel Billingsley, and Xavier Williams are all outstanding receivers. None of them are Waddle or Smith. When Smith was a freshman, we saw him, Henry Ruggs and Jerry Jeudy take starting positions away from a group of guys that had been playing for 3 years. Williams is the only freshman to see any snaps at all this year, and most of his were in garbage time. I can see some of the incoming freshmen getting meaningful snaps next year, but they will come with growing pains. Add in a new offensive staff, new starters at QB, RB and 3 OL spots and you have to figure on a learning curve. That said, ROLL TIDE!!! 

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2 hours ago, WETSU said:

I've been trying to make this point, but apparently there are Waddles in Bamas WR room 🙄

I hate in when my whole receiver corp waddles. 

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