gamewatcher63 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/10/politics/brian-sicknick-investigation/index.html So the whole narrative of murder by fire extinguisher is false...it was an allergic reaction. Sorry he lost his life but the rush to judgement to convict 75 million Trump voters has the MSM and the demo's making things up. Evidence and truth... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Thought CNN was a fake news site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamewatcher63 Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, JETT said: Thought CNN was a fake news site? In a rare instance...CNN had to retract their reporting that he died from being hit with a fire extinguisher....so they lied the first time=fake news Investigators have determined that initial reports suggesting Sicknick was struck with a fire extinguisher aren't true, CNN previously reported. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, gamewatcher63 said: In a rare instance...CNN had to retract their reporting that he died from being hit with a fire extinguisher....so they lied the first time=fake news Investigators have determined that initial reports suggesting Sicknick was struck with a fire extinguisher aren't true, CNN previously reported. 10/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, gamewatcher63 said: https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/10/politics/brian-sicknick-investigation/index.html So the whole narrative of murder by fire extinguisher is false...it was an allergic reaction. Sorry he lost his life but the rush to judgement to convict 75 million Trump voters has the MSM and the demo's making things up. Evidence and truth... Did I read the story right and missed your point? He was sprayed by 'protesters' with bear spray and he probably died of an allergic reaction? How does that clear those scumbags???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamewatcher63 Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: Did I read the story right and missed your point? He was sprayed by 'protesters' with bear spray and he probably died of an allergic reaction? How does that clear those scumbags???? Are you sure he died from bear spray or tear gas sprayed by the Capitol police? Maybe the scumbags were his co-workers? Maybe??? Are you still saying it was a head injury from being hit with a fire extinguisher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, Old49er60 said: so he died because they sprayed him....would that not be murder? They sprayed him as a deterrent, not an intent to kill. So no not murder. It would have to classify as some type of felony though since it happened during the act of a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamewatcher63 Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Old49er60 said: so he died because they sprayed him....would that not be murder? You tell me counselor... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamewatcher63 Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Old49er60 said: They sprayed an officer of the law as a deterrent? No matter the intent of the action resulted in death how is it not murder? If a person is committing a crime and kills another in that action it does not matter if they meant to do it or not it is murder. Please cite case where pepper spray was used and murder conviction was found by jury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamewatcher63 Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Old49er60 said: Pretty specific case. I am sure you are right. I am sure a person in the act of committing a crime whose action causes another to die will just be told they are ok because they did not mean for them to die. The fact you do not want the people held responsible is beyond shocking I knew you would deflect....good job "counselor". And I want to see justice...just not one-sided...and not having convictions based on lies. Welcome to the gulag comrade... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamewatcher63 Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, Old49er60 said: Not sure where I deflected. If in the act of committing a crime they sprayed a person and the person died it is murder. You disagree. Let’s see how the courts see it. How is the justice one sided? Explain that. How is wanting those responsible for his death one sided? Again please cite case law were anyone was convicted for pepper spraying anyone and convicted from murder. And please remember...the Capitol police were spraying tear gas also....could he have had a reaction to that??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamewatcher63 Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 I went thru the gas chamber....never heard of anyone dying. Pepper spray(or bear spray) is listed as non-lethal(same as tear gas). Would the person spraying a "non-lethal" substance be liable for a death??? Case law counselor...please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, gamewatcher63 said: I went thru the gas chamber....never heard of anyone dying. Pepper spray(or bear spray) is listed as non-lethal(same as tear gas). Would the person spraying a "non-lethal" substance be liable for a death??? Case law counselor...please That’s MISTER COCHRAN to You, gamey... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Old49er60 said: They sprayed an officer of the law as a deterrent? No matter the intent of the action resulted in death how is it not murder? If a person is committing a crime and kills another in that action it does not matter if they meant to do it or not it is murder. With murder you have to show intent to kill. An accident is not murder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, MavGrad99 said: With murder you have to show intent to kill. An accident is not murder I’m starting to think he ain’t Cochran after all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osup116 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 9 hours ago, Old49er60 said: They sprayed an officer of the law as a deterrent? No matter the intent of the action resulted in death how is it not murder? If a person is committing a crime and kills another in that action it does not matter if they meant to do it or not it is murder. involuntary manslaughter I would think would be used. Same as hitting someone with your car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Regardless of intent the "protester" sprayed an officer of the law with pepper spray. The perp should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, EnjoyLife said: Regardless of intent the "protester" sprayed an officer of the law with pepper spray. The perp should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. This comment is the correct course of action because it might actually yield fruit, whereas attempting to convince a jury that murder was attempted would more than likely result in a mistrial. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I do not pretend to be a lawyer but I watched George Zimmerman go free because the prosecution tried to appease the lynch mob by over charging him. They made the burden of proof so high they could not get a conviction. I expect the officer involved in George Floyds death to also go free for the same reason. They can probably get a conviction of the guy that pepper sprayed Officer Sicknick as long as they do not over do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osup116 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Old49er60 said: However if you hit that person while committing another crime they will seek murder charges and we do have plenty examples of that. Thats a stretch - Case would be tossed - 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamewatcher63 Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Old49er60 said: Man slaughter is a homicide. However if you kill a person even by accident while committing another crime it can be considered murder. I think we can all agree that by spraying any of the officers with bear spray it is considers assault on an officer. If the action of this causes the officer to die then yes I believe they will seek murder charges against the persons who did it. So there were I believe 4 other deaths that day, 1 was the woman shot inside the capitol...the others??? were they around outside when the capitol police were spraying tear gas??? Did they have reactions to the tear gas??? Murder??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiOne Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 51 minutes ago, gamewatcher63 said: So there were I believe 4 other deaths that day, 1 was the woman shot inside the capitol...the others??? were they around outside when the capitol police were spraying tear gas??? Did they have reactions to the tear gas??? Murder??? I think at least one of them got suicided. So that is one shot by police, one allergic reaction, one suicided. What was the other one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osup116 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Old49er60 said: So what you are saying is they should have tossed all cases where a person was killed by another while in the act of committing a crime? Take of the political blinders. These people assaulted an officer. As a result of the assault the officer died. That is not a hard concept. Stop with the hate of Trump Supporters. If this was BLM you would not be anywhere near this. I support the Cops 100%. Manslaughter will be all the prosecuting attorney will go for. If he is worth his salt he will offer it as plea and it will not even go to court The bigger story to me is you and the media ran with the fire extinguisher story with no proof . It fit your narrative of trying to punish conservatives. So that any opposing view would be destroyed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osup116 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Old49er60 said: Yes it must be hate of trump. By the way go back and see what I said on BLM before talking. And let’s face it I know what you have said on BLM and if this were them you would want the death penalty. Not hard to see you want less charges on this because of trump. I never said I did not want them to be prosecuted I am saying that it will be manslaughter. What happened at Capital was sad. It was caused by extremist. To clear the record I actually agree with what BLM is saying. It is the extremist in their group I have an issue with. Antifa on the other hand I have nothing what so ever for. They want nothing but anarchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osup116 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, BoHogg said: Didn't you mean to say conservative terrorists who attacked the nation's capitol? More like extremist almost identical to the ones in ANTIFA and BLM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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