Wild74 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 On Friday, in a blunt assessment of the situation, Florida Republican Governor Ron DeSantis issued an election integrity proposal that would ensure fair voting in his state. Counties would be prohibited from receiving grants from private third-party organizations for “get out the vote” initiatives. Ballot boxes would be examined for their trustworthiness Ballot harvesting would be checked so that no one could have a ballot other then their own or their immediate family Vote-by-mail ballots could not be sent en masse; only voters asking for a ballot would receive one Vote-by-mail requests must be made each election year Vote by mail ballot signatures must match the most recent signature on file Political parties and candidates must be permitted to observe the signature matching process. Supervisors of Elections must report how many ballots have been requested, how many have been received, how many are left to be counted, and must post over-vote ballots to be considered by the canvassing board on their website before the canvassing board meets. Precincts must have real-time reporting of voter turnout data When the COVID-19 pandemic hit, a lot of states used that as a pretext to be able to do hastily new forms of voting. We didn’t do that in Florida. We had a system; we had confidence in the system; we knew it was safe, and we did it. We were not going to be sending out unsolicited mass mail ballots because, as we’ve seen, there’s problems with that. And when people tried to sue us, we told them, “Pound sand. We’re not going to change what we’re doing.” So the result of 2020 from an administrative perspective was that Florida had the most transparent and efficient election anywhere in the country. Other states took days, weeks, and even months to count their votes, and yet Florida, by midnight on Election Night, we had 99% reporting and 11 million votes counted, tabulated, and put out to the public. It can be done, and don’t let anybody tell you it can’t be done. So I think it’s important to point that out, and I think Floridians of all stripes can rest assured that in this state your vote counts. Your vote matters; your vote will be counted. It’s gonna be transparent; it’s gonna be above board. It’s gonna be a confidence-inspiring process. And don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. Don’t let anyone point to any other state and try to act like that is how Florida conducts elections because that is not true. That may have been true 20 years ago; that is not true now. So we have led on this issue from the very beginning; the results speak for themselves, but we also can’t rest on our laurels. We need to make sure that we continue to stay ahead of the curve. We need to make sure that our citizens have confidence in the elections, that they have the ability to vote. We want, obviously, everyone to vote, but we don’t want anyone to cheat, and we want to make sure that we strike that appropriate balance. “My view is we should have no ballot harvesting at all in the state of Florida. When you think about it, if you go in to vote on Election Day, they’ll be 150 feet, no one will even talk to you when you’re going; it’s like a sacred thing. You’re in a poll; you do all the thing; you put it in; you see the process. How could you say that this is how you do it in person and then somehow someone can just harvest hundreds of votes and dump it in some dropbox?” He noted, “We’re not a big ballot harvesting state as it is, but any type of loopholes or any type of room where that could be abused we want to make sure we address it,” before continuing with his explanation of other steps he would take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 A number of states (20 or so, if I remember correctly) are putting forth legislation regarding elections. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Monte1076 said: A number of states (20 or so, if I remember correctly) are putting forth legislation regarding elections. Are they typically red states? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 8 hours ago, DB2point0 said: Are they typically red states? I'll have to see if I can find the article. I think i posted it on this forum a couple of weeks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: I'll have to see if I can find the article. I think i posted it on this forum a couple of weeks back. I’d be willing to wager they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: I’d be willing to wager they are Found it... https://www.penncapital-star.com/government-politics/gop-lawmakers-in-28-states-have-introduced-more-than-100-bills-seeking-to-restrict-ballot-access-analysis/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Monte1076 said: Found it... https://www.penncapital-star.com/government-politics/gop-lawmakers-in-28-states-have-introduced-more-than-100-bills-seeking-to-restrict-ballot-access-analysis/ How about if you want a mail in ballot you have to pick it up in person? Say the DL office or your local Post Office. They could verify your identification then report a specific mail in ballot id# to the voter registry so that ballot doesn’t end up swapping hands. If that makes people mad we could arrange a delivery service to do the same at a cost to the person requesting the mail in ballot. Our right to vote is the most sacred right we have and when even a fraction of the people feel like there was something wrong we should be moving to give them confidence in our voting efforts. Edit.... I think the title is funny. GOP trying to “RESTRICT” ballot access.. lol. They just want verification. If you’re not being fraudulent you shouldn’t have anything to worry about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: If that makes people mad we could arrange a delivery service to do the same at a cost to the person requesting the mail in ballot. That looks too much like a "poll tax", I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: That looks too much like a "poll tax", I think. Convenience fee. If they can’t afford it, drive/walk/bum a ride to the voting poll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 32 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: Convenience fee. If they can’t afford it, drive/walk/bum a ride to the voting poll I'm just saying something like that would likely be challenged in the courts as a "poll tax". Some people even believe voter ID is a poll tax, because you have to pay money (that most people pay anyway) for an ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: I'm just saying something like that would likely be challenged in the courts as a "poll tax". Some people even believe voter ID is a poll tax, because you have to pay money (that most people pay anyway) for an ID. Here lies the bones of common sense..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Voter suppression and the GOP? Sure, why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 minute ago, BarryLaverty said: Voter suppression and the GOP? Sure, why not. So in 2024 if the republicans steal the election back you’ll be okay with it? and how is asking for proof of identity suppression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, DB2point0 said: So in 2024 if the republicans steal the election back you’ll be okay with it? More of the same...this time it didn't work. As long as voters come out, it won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: Voter suppression and the GOP? Sure, why not. People still have yet to provide a good answer as to why voter ID is "voter suppression". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: More of the same...this time it didn't work. As long as voters come out, it won't. Don’t deflect. If the republicans steal the 2024 election, will you be okay with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Monte1076 said: People still have yet to provide a good answer as to why voter ID is "voter suppression". He can’t give a good explanation, other than he’s okay with voter fraud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 53 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: I'm just saying something like that would likely be challenged in the courts as a "poll tax". Some people even believe voter ID is a poll tax, because you have to pay money (that most people pay anyway) for an ID. You already answered that, didn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 40 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: You already answered that, didn't you? Try functioning in society at large without an ID, and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: Try functioning in society at large without an ID, and see what happens. People do it all the time, more than you would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: People do it all the time, more than you would think. Illegals do it everyday. Why is asking for identification suppression??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: Illegals do it everyday. Why is asking for identification suppression??? Public service for you....Texas has been making it hard to vote for a long, long time, and not out of 'election integrity' concerns. https://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/voter-suppression-texas-history/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: Public service for you....Texas has been making it hard to vote for a long, long time, and not out of 'election integrity' concerns. https://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/voter-suppression-texas-history/ It’s not hard. Walk in the door with voter ID and DL, hand it to the person behind the desk, put it back in your wallet, take your ballot and fill it in, then run it through the machine. It’s really pretty simple. so how is asking for ID suppression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 minute ago, DB2point0 said: It’s not hard. Walk in the door with voter ID and DL, hand it to the person behind the desk, put it back in your wallet, take your ballot and fill it in, then run it through the machine. It’s really pretty simple. so how is asking for ID suppression? https://www.statesman.com/news/20160903/politifact-about-600000-texans-may-lack-proper-voter-id Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 So we see 600k don’t have them, but it doesn’t say why. Lots of information missing. If they don’t have it, get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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