Youngcoach123 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 44 minutes ago, BoHogg said: Natural gas for the win! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 10 hours ago, CarthDawg77 said: If this is a recurring problem, I say stick with solar as a better alternative; Fewer moving parts & faster recovery from the cold. Build large battery banks to ride out the darkness. Much quieter, to boot.. Those solar panels aren't going to be generating much power when they're covered in ice and snow, and the clouds are overhead. I saw more sun last week than I did the week before, but the sun didn't warm up anything. Plus in the winter they have less time to generate power. Then you have the toxic ash from dead solar panels that will pollute the environment. https://grist.org/energy/solar-panels-are-starting-to-die-what-will-we-do-with-the-megatons-of-toxic-trash/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Wind energy is another waste of time. In addition to it's recycling cost and the use of fossil fuels to keep them going they will kill millions of birds a year including endangered species by 2030. I know some of you like the taste of quail and duck. I wonder how much game would be in that count. https://abcbirds.org/article/wind-power-could-kill-millions-of-birds-per-year-by-2030/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, DaveTV1 said: Those solar panels aren't going to be generating much power when they're covered in ice and snow, and the clouds are overhead. I saw more sun last week than I did the week before, but the sun didn't warm up anything. Plus in the winter they have less time to generate power. Then you have the toxic ash from dead solar panels that will pollute the environment. https://grist.org/energy/solar-panels-are-starting-to-die-what-will-we-do-with-the-megatons-of-toxic-trash/ There should be a way to heat trace them to thaw the ice; that or rotate them to a point where the Ice won’t form, then rotate them back after the ice is gone. Solar Has to be less expensive than the turbines. I can’t imagine how it wouldn’t be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, CarthDawg77 said: There should be a way to heat trace them to thaw the ice; that or rotate them to a point where the Ice won’t form, then rotate them back after the ice is gone. Solar Has to be less expensive than the turbines. I can’t imagine how it wouldn’t be. What happens when the night falls and that's when we have our coldest temperatures. Much like my starter that went out those motors will freeze up. True, the power generated from the solar panels could be used, but the cold does many things to even gears and metal. That might take more power than what they would generate from homes. I say stick with what worked in the past for those of us that don't really know how to live in these conditions. I made it through easily, but I had already learned how to make it through sub freezing temperatures. I'd prefer the heat, and being above 70 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloppyJoe Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Gropin'Joes plan to fuel the states with fairy dust and unicorn fartz is working out about like his plan to start curing covid in his first hundred days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 11 hours ago, CarthDawg77 said: If this is a recurring problem, I say stick with solar as a better alternative; Fewer moving parts & faster recovery from the cold. Build large battery banks to ride out the darkness. Much quieter, to boot.. Nope ..... Increase natural gas production along with shale oil production ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, mellon said: I'm all for green energy when it is done right, but don't shut down fossil fuel until you are 100% sure that your green energy can replace 100% of the fossil fuels and at the same price. You are never going to power the biggest and most powerful jumbo passenger planes, high performance military jets, locomotives and other large powerful heavy equipment with solar or wind energy ..... not gonna happen ..... Edited February 25, 2021 by KirtFalcon yo mama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 hours ago, JETT said: Don't bother me 1 bit, sorta like DB duche bag DB is for double barrel. I’m as happy as a puppy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, DaveTV1 said: Those solar panels aren't going to be generating much power when they're covered in ice and snow, and the clouds are overhead. I saw more sun last week than I did the week before, but the sun didn't warm up anything. Plus in the winter they have less time to generate power. Then you have the toxic ash from dead solar panels that will pollute the environment. https://grist.org/energy/solar-panels-are-starting-to-die-what-will-we-do-with-the-megatons-of-toxic-trash/ Winterize them so they don’t freeze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Just now, DB2point0 said: DB is for double barrel. I’m as happy as a puppy...... Cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: You are never going to power the biggest and most powerful jumbo passenger planes, high performance military jets, locomotives and pother large powerful heavy equipment with solar or wind energy ..... not gonna happen ..... Green new deal will ground planes anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 6 hours ago, DB2point0 said: They take up lots of acreage though. Texas has scads of acres doing nothing but soaking up the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, DB2point0 said: Green new deal will ground planes anyway. Right .... we can always travel globally and fight Chinese and Russian military jets with kites and parasails ..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, CarthDawg77 said: Texas has scads of acres doing nothing but soaking up the sun. And? Those landowners may not want power generated on their land being used by a bunch of liberals in the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, KirtFalcon said: Right .... we can always travel globally and fight Chinese and Russian military jets with kites and parasails ..... And business travel will be in cars that can only go 200 miles per day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, DB2point0 said: And? Those landowners may not want power generated on their land being used by a bunch of liberals in the city. Maybe, maybe not. Money talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: And business travel will be in cars that can only go 200 miles per day. I can see it now... A modern day Pony Express, only with ‘lectric cars strategically placed to enable one to travel coast to coast, 200 miles at a jump. The government will own all those cars, so all you will do is pay rent on each car until you reach your destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, CarthDawg77 said: I can see it now... A modern day Pony Express, only with ‘lectric cars strategically placed to enable one to travel coast to coast, 200 miles at a jump. The government will own all those cars, so all you will do is pay rent on each car until you reach your destination. And people like John kerry who gave to get places fast to get things done will have to use an electric boat to get overseas, or a plug in car that limits range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, CarthDawg77 said: I can see it now... A modern day Pony Express, only with ‘lectric cars strategically placed to enable one to travel coast to coast, 200 miles at a jump. The government will own all those cars, so all you will do is pay rent on each car until you reach your destination. I can see the government limiting you on how far you can travel too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, DB2point0 said: And people like John kerry who gave to get places fast to get things done will have to use an electric boat to get overseas, or a plug in car that limits range. Nah, people like him do whatever they please; only us serfs have to follow the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, DB2point0 said: I can see the government limiting you on how far you can travel too All taxable, of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 13 hours ago, DaveTV1 said: What happens when the night falls and that's when we have our coldest temperatures. Much like my starter that went out those motors will freeze up. True, the power generated from the solar panels could be used, but the cold does many things to even gears and metal. That might take more power than what they would generate from homes. I say stick with what worked in the past for those of us that don't really know how to live in these conditions. I made it through easily, but I had already learned how to make it through sub freezing temperatures. I'd prefer the heat, and being above 70 degrees. I am totally in favor of natural gas as the best method of heating homes. Heck, I worked in the oil & gas industry for over 35 years. My comments were only meant to address alternative methods of generating energy. Natural gas is far superior & it will be around for another 100 years at least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 hours ago, CarthDawg77 said: I am totally in favor of natural gas as the best method of heating homes. Heck, I worked in the oil & gas industry for over 35 years. My comments were only meant to address alternative methods of generating energy. Natural gas is far superior & it will be around for another 100 years at least! That is correct, with the proper storage of NG even when it freezes off above ground production storage is built to replace lost production. You have to spend some money if you don't want to freeze off and don't expect the stinking engineers who build the stations to cover that kind of stuff I found out the hard way. It only took one time losing a mainline compressor station to install and winterize every fuel gas regular with chemical heaters. Next time we Cadillaced right on through with very few problems 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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