cowboyandchrist Posted May 14, 2021 Author Share Posted May 14, 2021 38 minutes ago, ctown81 said: Granted I did move out of Carthage the first chance I got. Carthage was once considered the best small town in Texas up until Bernie. Everyone has their own opinion of Carthage if they have lived there. I moved to Carthage when I was in the fourth grade and graduated there. Carthage was a great place to grow up with the best little league program in the state. Mr. Tiller was was of the finest men I ever knew. Carthage has always had great athletes. We just never had great football coaches until Sleepy showed up. I remember the 73 class was undefeated in the 7th, 8th, and 9th grade but Carthage had a terrible HF coach and half the guys did not play in high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomuser Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, cowboyandchrist said: Everyone has their own opinion of Carthage if they have lived there. I moved to Carthage when I was in the fourth grade and graduated there. Carthage was a great place to grow up with the best little league program in the state. Mr. Tiller was was of the finest men I ever knew. Carthage has always had great athletes. We just never had great football coaches until Sleepy showed up. I remember the 73 class was undefeated in the 7th, 8th, and 9th grade but Carthage had a terrible HF coach and half the guys did not play in high school. And yet you’ll find some Carthage old timers that says Sleepy Reynolds was a terrible Coach. I thought he was pretty good, he gave Roscoe Tatum the ball until he gets leg cramps. He used the athletes he had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboyandchrist Posted May 14, 2021 Author Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, randomuser said: And yet you’ll find some Carthage old timers that says Sleepy Reynolds was a terrible Coach. I thought he was pretty good, he gave Roscoe Tatum the ball until he gets leg cramps. He used the athletes he had. Sleepy was no Surratt but he did get the Dawgs to a state championship game when only two teams made the playoffs. He made to semi finals. Carthage was not an easy out when he was there. Nobody has a coach Surratt or Preston combo. We are very blessed to the coaches and athletes that we have at Carthage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, randomuser said: And yet you’ll find some Carthage old timers that says Sleepy Reynolds was a terrible Coach. I thought he was pretty good, he gave Roscoe Tatum the ball until he gets leg cramps. He used the athletes he had. You don’t walk into the Astrodome undefeated for the State Title if you are a terrible coach. Coach Reynolds was a good coach who met up with a Very Good A&M Consolidated team that did their homework on Carthage in 1991. In My honest opinion, that team showed Carthage folk that winning it all is a real possibility. That team was a Beast. Coach Reynolds was a real good coach. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboyandchrist Posted May 14, 2021 Author Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, CarthDawg77 said: You don’t walk into the Astrodome undefeated for the State Title if you are a terrible coach. Coach Reynolds was a good coach who met up with a Very Good A&M Consolidated team that did their homework on Carthage in 1991. In My honest opinion, that team showed Carthage folk that winning it all is a real possibility. That team was a Beast. Coach Reynolds was a real good coach. We were missing an outstanding linebacker and full back in Milam. He got hurt in the Henderson game. He was a big time player for the Dawgs. Milam and Donnie were two really good linebackers on that team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikehoncho Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 6 hours ago, ctown81 said: Granted I did move out of Carthage the first chance I got. Carthage was once considered the best small town in Texas up until Bernie. No, It's still the best small town in Texas. It's on the sign at the city limits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotton84 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, PantherNation2015 said: That’s the fastest way to get really good really fast. Not true all the time. Carthage just hired a really good coach and got really good fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, cotton84 said: Not true all the time. Carthage just hired a really good coach and got really good fast. TWO really good coaches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotton84 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, CarthDawg77 said: TWO really good coaches... Carthage has a bunch of really good coaches......But if you are talking about Preston, he was not on Surratt’s original staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 18 hours ago, cowboyandchrist said: We were missing an outstanding linebacker and full back in Milam. He got hurt in the Henderson game. He was a big time player for the Dawgs. Milam and Donnie were two really good linebackers on that team. Consolidated exploited that the whole game too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBizzle Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Anyone know the enrollment difference between the two schools at that time? I bet it was quite the discrepancy. Consolidated had some big ol boys from what I remember. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboyandchrist Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, JBizzle said: Anyone know the enrollment difference between the two schools at that time? I bet it was quite the discrepancy. Consolidated had some big ol boys from what I remember. What impressed me the most, was their offensive line. The Dawgs just could not stop their running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/14/2021 at 1:50 PM, cowboyandchrist said: Sleepy was no Surratt but he did get the Dawgs to a state championship game when only two teams made the playoffs. He made to semi finals. Carthage was not an easy out when he was there. Nobody has a coach Surratt or Preston combo. We are very blessed to the coaches and athletes that we have at Carthage. If I gave my opinion on him I'd be suspended on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 On 5/10/2021 at 11:07 AM, d0tc0m said: What receiver did Gilmer pick up this offseason? Didn’t he transfer last season but had to sit out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 On 5/22/2021 at 11:55 AM, AllGoodNamesRGone said: I appreciate the Carthage folks not putting up the championship sign on hwy 79. Henderson folks don’t need that mojo when going to the boats. Collision will be down so it is a win/win. They probably take 43 to Marshall & the take 20 on into Bossier for that reason alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0tc0m Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 19 hours ago, Eagleborn said: Didn’t he transfer last season but had to sit out? I have no idea. Some Gilmer folks would have to answer that probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touchdownlsu Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 19 hours ago, AllGoodNamesRGone said: Avoiding Carthage altogether , I see why now. That being said, does any team around own the head to head with Carthage? They have pretty much dominated this area along with the entire state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0tc0m Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, touchdownlsu said: That being said, does any team around own the head to head with Carthage? They have pretty much dominated this area along with the entire state. Don't know the entire history, but Liberty Hill has notched at least two big Ws over Carthage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 2 hours ago, d0tc0m said: I have no idea. Some Gilmer folks would have to answer that probably. He played for Deion Sanders last fall at private school and then transferred to Gilmer over Christmas break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikehoncho Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, touchdownlsu said: That being said, does any team around own the head to head with Carthage? They have pretty much dominated this area along with the entire state. As far as historically, Kilgore and Henderson both may still own the lead on head to heads with Carthage going back to the dawn of time. But since Surratt has been here Carthage leads both series. And as DotCom said, I believe Liberty Hill is 2 wins, no losses against Carthage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionKing12172920 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, d0tc0m said: Don't know the entire history, but Liberty Hill has notched at least two big Ws over Carthage. I thought Liberty Hill only played Carthage 1 time? And that game it was close, back to back scores, that was a great ball game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboyandchrist Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, LionKing12172920 said: I thought Liberty Hill only played Carthage 1 time? And that game it was close, back to back scores, that was a great ball game. Liberty Hill beat the Dawgs in 2007, coach Surratt first year at Carthage. The game in 2018 still burns me up. The Dawgs dropped three TD passes with nobody within 5 yards of the receivers. The game was high scoring and we lost 64 to 61. The Dawgs could not stop the run, but they couldn’t stop the pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionKing12172920 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 minute ago, cowboyandchrist said: Liberty Hill beat the Dawgs in 2007, coach Surratt first year at Carthage. The game in 2018 still burns me up. The Dawgs dropped three TD passes with nobody within 5 yards of the receivers. The game was high scoring and we lost 64 to 61. The Dawgs could not stop the run, but they couldn’t stop the pass. Okay thanks, I didn't know they played Carthage twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikehoncho Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, AllGoodNamesRGone said: Henderson technically does but it is super close like 38-35 or something like that. Good news the more avoidance they can lose. I didn’t know the exact number but I figured Henderson and Kilgore might still own all time head to head W/L. The last 14 years have been much nicer for Carthage than anything that came before it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 5/24/2021 at 12:15 PM, cowboyandchrist said: Liberty Hill beat the Dawgs in 2007, coach Surratt first year at Carthage. The game in 2018 still burns me up. The Dawgs dropped three TD passes with nobody within 5 yards of the receivers. The game was high scoring and we lost 64 to 61. The Dawgs could not stop the run, but they couldn’t stop the pass. I think it was more like 44-41 but who’s counting? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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