trashyhound Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Just now, JETT said: That's the big question we're all waiting on, they knew each other previously and worked together.. something was there that made him do this.. would you hold someone you worked with previously in this position? I wouldn't unless I was Holding a grudge JMO Maybe. Or maybe i would do the same as many cops do to restrain him. But if i genuinely wanted to kill him, a knee on his neck would be near the bottom of the list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Youngcoach123 said: Absolutely, but I think it was going more to the cops training. If he was trained to restrain that way then how can we hold him personally responsible? Doesn’t mean someone or entity isn’t responsible for coming up with that training. 3+ minutes unresponsive is not proper training.... LE is also trained sorta like paramedics and he did nothing to try and save the man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, trashyhound said: Maybe. Or maybe i would do the same as many cops do to restrain him. But if i genuinely wanted to kill him, a knee on his neck would be near the bottom of the list. Ok fair enough, I'll trust the jury... if that's possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 minute ago, JETT said: 3+ minutes unresponsive is not proper training.... LE is also trained sorta like paramedics and he did nothing to try and save the man... At one point in the trial, the prosecutions witness determined lack of movement was not enough to justify to stop restraining. He went on to talk about how suspects commonly pass out and wake up and immediately start resisting again. So I think they kinda can say it was still proper training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, Youngcoach123 said: Absolutely, but I think it was going more to the cops training. If he was trained to restrain that way then how can we hold him personally responsible? Doesn’t mean someone or entity isn’t responsible for coming up with that training. Part of the other problem, it seems, was the amount of time it actually took for the ambulance and fire to get there from the time they were called. They apparently got there several minutes later than they "should have". And I think MPD policy is to keep the restraint in place until EMTs get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Youngcoach123 said: At one point in the trial, the prosecutions witness determined lack of movement was not enough to justify to stop restraining. He went on to talk about how suspects commonly pass out and wake up and immediately start resisting again. So I think they kinda can say it was still proper training. LMMFAO, blood coming from the man's nose? Yeah let's continue cause he'll get up and do what he didn't do at first and fight.. what a joke GTFOH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Just now, Monte1076 said: Part of the other problem, it seems, was the amount of time it actually took for the ambulance and fire to get there from the time they were called. They apparently got there several minutes later than they "should have". And I think MPD policy is to keep the restraint in place until EMTs get there. Yea I remember reading that but forgot that part. All these policy problems seemed to finally line up to this tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 minute ago, JETT said: LMMFAO, blood coming from the man's nose? Yeah let's continue cause he'll get up and do what he didn't do at first and fight.. what a joke GTFOH I guess no ones ever fought with a bloody nose before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 minute ago, JETT said: LMMFAO, blood coming from the man's nose? Yeah let's continue cause he'll get up and do what he didn't do at first and fight.. what a joke GTFOH Are you saying he didn’t resist at all? Is that your claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 As a human I guess I have more sympathy for human life than LE.. ive seen situations handled way better than this POS cop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Youngcoach123 said: I guess no ones ever fought with a bloody nose before. I get it man, defend by all means that's cool... we'll agree to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 ROTLOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Just now, Youngcoach123 said: Are you saying he didn’t resist at all? Is that your claim? He didn't want to be in the car, shouldn't have gave him a choice then he's forced out of the car.... I don't recall a struggle between him and officers that wasn't anything the everyday cop doesn’t deal with that's why there trained.... I guess knee to the neck will be the new norm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Youngcoach123 said: Yea I remember reading that but forgot that part. All these policy problems seemed to finally line up to this tragedy. The "argument", I think, is that they "staged" a couple of blocks away for some reason, and didn't go to the scene until it was too late. I think the argument given for the staging was the "hostile" bystanders was possibly a safety issue for the EMTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, JETT said: As a human I guess I have more sympathy for human life than LE.. ive seen situations handled way better than this POS cop def could have been handled better. Don’t think anyone is saying it couldn’t. But that’s not what we are discussing. We are discussing the amount of liability the cop has in the death. You don’t prosecute people on what if’s different responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Youngcoach123 said: def could have been handled better. Don’t think anyone is saying it couldn’t. But that’s not what we are discussing. We are discussing the amount of liability the cop has in the death. You don’t prosecute people on what if’s different responses. IMO full liability, you take a life you should be held accountable.... either way he won't make it long in these streets if he's acquitted, there's clowns daily killing ppl for no damn reason, they chomping at the bit for this POS wanna be officer.... JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamewatcher63 Posted April 14, 2021 Author Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, JETT said: IMO full liability, you take a life you should be held accountable.... either way he won't make it long in these streets if he's acquitted, there's clowns daily killing ppl for no damn reason, they chomping at the bit for this POS wanna be officer.... JMO You need to quit listening to BLM and NWA....BTW OJ is still looking for the "real killers" on some golf course...accountable LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, gamewatcher63 said: You need to quit listening to BLM and NWA....BTW OJ is still looking for the "real killers" on some golf course...accountable LMAO OJ got away with murder no denying it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, gamewatcher63 said: You need to quit listening to BLM and NWA....BTW OJ is still looking for the "real killers" on some golf course...accountable LMAO What's NWA got to do with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 12 hours ago, ctown81 said: I do not know the story, but not speaking on Minnosota but just in general. It hits different when things like that happen SOLEY based on race. It's an Indescribable feeling that truly belittles you and can definitely get you out of character. You can only get pulled over so many times and be asked if you are a drug dealer or how can you afford this car? It isn't strictly based on race, because it happens to all races. Those stories don't get as much coverage as blacks being shot or killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 5 hours ago, JETT said: No need in cuffs anymore we have to put knee to the neck with multiple officers on scene to detain a cooperative perp... only in America It actually happens across the world, and I've seen photos that prove that. It wasn't just taught in America at one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 On 4/13/2021 at 2:57 PM, trashyhound said: You first. Tell your buddies to stop running from the law. Running from the law doesnt mean you murder them on site, trashcan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 6 hours ago, JETT said: OJ got away with murder no denying it Agreed. Remember walking into work the morning after the murders and I was like oh hell no ain't no way OJ did that! Then I saw and heard the evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 9 hours ago, JETT said: Ok fair enough, I'll trust the jury... if that's possible You need not worry. High probability jury convicts for same reason courts wouldn't look at the steal: fear of the window smashing, arsonist mob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now