JTFAN99 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Mavchamp said: This is my mock 7A alignment. The 7A cutoff for this alignment would be 2,771 and up. This is based on last year's numbers.... and doesn't account for new schools or decreasing enrollments or districts asking for schools to play up. So there are undoubtably some schools on here that shouldn't be and some that should be that aren't. I tried to make it as geographically feasible as possible.... but some of these distances are wild. Enjoy! District 1 El Paso Franklin San Angelo Central Midland Lee Midland High Odessa Odessa Permian Wolfforth Frenship District 2 Arlington Lamar Arlington Martin Arlington Sam Houston Arlington Grand Prairie South Grand Prairie Euless Trinity Southlake Carroll Duncanville DeSotoDistrict 3 Flower Mound Lewisville Hebron Coppell Flower Mound Marcus Lewisville Keller Keller Timbercreek Hurst Bell Irving Irving McArthurDistrict 4 Allen Plano West Plano East Plano McKinney McKinney Boyd District 5 Dallas Skyline Mesquite Horn Garland Sache Wylie Rockwall Richardson Lake Highlands Richardson District 6 Killeen Killeen Ellison Killeen Harker Heights Killeen Shoemaker Belton Lake BeltonDistrict 7 The Woodlands Conroe Woodlands College Park Spring Humble Atascocita Spring Westfield Conroe Grand Oaks District 8 Aldine Macarthur Aldine Benjamin Aldine Aldine EIsenhower Klien Forrest Klien Oak Klien Klien Collins Klien CainDistrict 9 Cypress Bridgeland Cypress Ranch Cypress Ridge Cypress Creek Cypress Lakes Cypress Fair Cypress Woods Cypress FallsDistrict 10 Katy Taylor Katy Tomkins Katy 7 Lakes Katy Cinco Katy Katy Mayde Creek Alief Elsik Alief Hastings Alief TaylorDistrict 11 Jersey Village Langham Creek Spring Branch Northbrook Houston Sam Houston Houston Westside Houston Lamar CE King Houston Bellaire Houston ChavezDistrict 12 Deer Park Pearland Pearland Dawson Dickinson Pasadena Sam Rayburn League City Clear Springs Alvin Fort Bend Travis ChannelviewDistrict 13 Austin Westlake Lake Travis Del Valle Round Rock Round Rock Cedar Ridge Round Rock Westwood Austin Bowie Round Rock Stoney PointDistrict 14 San Antonio Lee San Antonio East Central San Antonio Reagan San Antonio Conner San Antonio Madison San Antonio JohnsonDistrict 15 San Antonio Warren San Antonio Clark San Antonio Stevens San Antonio Jay San Antonio Harland San Antonio Brandeis Smithson Valley District 16 Laredo United Los Fresnos Laredo United South Laredo Johnson Harlingen San Benito Laredo Alexander Del Rio La Joya Its a good Mock, but the El Paso situation and the Del Rio/Laredo situation is the issue. You could probably send Del Rio to San Antonio area, but you still have the El Paso issue. The other issue I see is how would 6a look? You just took half of the schools out of 6a to create 7a. Will you have enough schools to form the current 32 districts? If not, are the remaining schools enough to form a reasonable 16 districts? Regardless, its a good start, but the El Paso thing is a major issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 20 hours ago, JTFAN99 said: Its a good Mock, but the El Paso situation and the Del Rio/Laredo situation is the issue. You could probably send Del Rio to San Antonio area, but you still have the El Paso issue. The other issue I see is how would 6a look? You just took half of the schools out of 6a to create 7a. Will you have enough schools to form the current 32 districts? If not, are the remaining schools enough to form a reasonable 16 districts? Regardless, its a good start, but the El Paso thing is a major issue. Good catch with San Benito..... they would definitely fit better in one of the SA districts. SA is only a little over 2.5 hours..... the south district was much longer after I looked. Laredo- 3:05 Los Fresnos- 6:17 Harlingen- 6:23 mins La Joya- 5:30 San Benito- 6:40 ----------- My alignment would have 136 schools in 7A and 116 in 6A. I originally had closer to a 50/50 split between them.....but it left a couple of 5 team districts.....and it created more travel problems. TBH....I'm not sure how it would affect 6A..... but it would no doubt drop it to 16 districts instead of 32. And it may would create more travel problems for 6A than 7A. I was actually surprised..... travel wouldn't really be that bad for 7A outside of the West Texas district and the far South district. The rest of it was pretty unremarkable by East Texas driving standards. Now.....metro fans would howl. God Forbid Lewisville fans have to drive all the way to Irving or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Another issue I have... I dont understand how it makes more sense for a school with 2700 to play a school with 4000+ rather than playing a school with 2300. That's the thing....there really isnt a lot of mega schools (4,000+) in TX. So when you presplit or create a 7A, naturally they'll have to pull up some schools as low as 27-2800 to fill in the districts....and that doesn't solve anything. The only way to fix things...is if you get districts like Allen, Plano or Galena Park to build more schools. But you cant force them to do that...so...back to square one. I don't think 6A NEEDS a pre split anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 4 hours ago, ANTI said: I don't think 6A NEEDS a pre split anyway. I would do it just to have it uniform across the board with all the classes. Call it what it is too. We have 12 classes for football, and 6 for other sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeKlabBeers Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I didn’t even know El Paso was in Texas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFAN99 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 On 4/18/2021 at 3:17 PM, Mavchamp said: Good catch with San Benito..... they would definitely fit better in one of the SA districts. SA is only a little over 2.5 hours..... the south district was much longer after I looked. Laredo- 3:05 Los Fresnos- 6:17 Harlingen- 6:23 mins La Joya- 5:30 San Benito- 6:40 ----------- My alignment would have 136 schools in 7A and 116 in 6A. I originally had closer to a 50/50 split between them.....but it left a couple of 5 team districts.....and it created more travel problems. TBH....I'm not sure how it would affect 6A..... but it would no doubt drop it to 16 districts instead of 32. And it may would create more travel problems for 6A than 7A. I was actually surprised..... travel wouldn't really be that bad for 7A outside of the West Texas district and the far South district. The rest of it was pretty unremarkable by East Texas driving standards. Now.....metro fans would howl. God Forbid Lewisville fans have to drive all the way to Irving or something. Hey Mav, what about a 6A Split instead, with schools above 2950 or 3000 going to Div.1. I think that would work. It would make District 1 a 5 team district cause you would lose El Paso Franklin and Frenship but that should fix most of the issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCU44 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 They Will add 7A then Highland Park Will be 5A D-1 by one student then the UIL will work the numbers from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Lots of issues with a pre-split 6A.....it's no wonder why they haven't done it. There are some travel nightmares..... 2,773 and up would be Division I 2064-2772 Division II 6A Div I District 1 El Paso Franklin San Angelo Central Odessa Permian Midlan Midland Lee District 2 Euless Trinity South Grand Prairie Grand Prairie Hurst Bell Arlington Arlington Martin Arlington Lamar Arlington Houston District 3 Southlake Carroll Coppell Lewisville Lewisville Hebron Flower Mound Flower Mound Marcus Keller Keller Timbercreek District 4 Duncanville DeSoto Irving Irving McArthur Dallas Jesuit Dallas Skyline Belton Killeen Ellison Killeen Harker HeightsDistrict 5 Allen Plano Plano West Plano East Rockwall Mesquite Horn McKinney McKinney Boyd Wylie Garland SacheDistrict 6 The Woodlands Woodlands College Park Conroe Conroe Grand Oaks Klein Klein Forrest Klein Collins Klein Oak Klein Cain District 7 Aldine Aldine Eisenhower Aldine MacArthur Aldine Benjamin Spring Spring Westfield Langham Creek Jersey VillageDistrict 8 Cypress Bridgeland Cypress Woods Cypress Ranch Cypress CreeK Cypress Falls Cypress Lakes Cypress Fairbanks Cypress Ridge District 9 Katy Katy Cinco Ranch Katy Taylor Katy Tompkins Katy Mayde Creek Katy Seven Lakes Alief Elsik Alief Taylor Alief HastingsDistrict 10 Houston Lamar Houston Bellaire Houston Westside Strake Jesuit Northbrook Houston Chavez Houston Sam Houston Fort Bend Travis Fort Bend Ridge Point District 11 Galena Park C.E. King Channelview Humble Atascocita Humble Kingwood Deer ParkDistrict 12 Alvin Pasadena Dobie Pasadena Memorial Pasadena Rayburn Dickinson District 13 Lake Travis Austin Westlake Austin Bowie Round Rock Round Rock Stony Point Round Rock Westwood Round Rock Cedar Ridge Del Valle District 14 Smithson Valley SA Johnson SA Reagan SA Lee SA Madison SA East Central District 15 SA Jay SA Warren SA Clark SA Stevens SA Harlan SA O'Connor SA Brandies Del RioDistrict 16 Laredo United Laredo Johnson Laredo United South Laredo Alexander San Benito Los Fresnos La Joya _________________________ 6A Div II District 1 EP Montwood EP Socorro EP Coronado EP Americas EP Eastwood EP Eastlake EP Pebble Hills District 2 Abilene Wolfforth Frenship FW Paschal North Crowley Boswell Weatherford Chisolm TrailDistrict 3 Keller Fossil Ridge Keller Central Denton Guyer Denton Braswell Haltom Eaton Nelson Prosper Little ElmDistrict 4 Richardson Lake Highlands Richardson Richardson Berkner Richardson Pearce North Garland South Garland Garland Naaman Forrest Garland Lakeview Centennial Rowlett Rockwall HeathDistrict 5 Tyler Lee Mesquite North Mesquite Waxahachie Cedar Hill Mansfield Mansfield Lake Ridge Arlington Bowie Irving Nimitz District 6 Waco Waco Midway Killeen Killeen Shoemaker Temple Copperas Cove BryanDistrict 7 Cedar Park Vista Ridge Round Rock McNeil Hutto Hayes Consolidated Austin High Austin Vandergriff Austin Akins District 8 Spring Dekaney Tomball Tomball Memorial Conroe Oak Ridge Aldine Nimitz Wllis District 9 Cypress Park Cypress Springs Katy Ranch Houston Stratford Houston Memorial Houston SpringwoodDistrict 10 Houston Heights Houston Westbury South Houston Pasadena Beaumont Westbrook Humble Humble Summer CreekDistrict 11 Fort Bend Dulles FB Clements FB Austin FB Bush FB Elkins Richmond George Ranch District 12 Clear Lake Clear Brook Clear Falls Clear Creek Alvin Shadowcreek Brazoswood District 13 Converse Judson Judson Wagner New Braunsfels Cibollo Steele San Marcos Schertz Clemens SA Roosevelt SA Churchhill SA MacArthur District 14 Eagle Pass SA Taft SA Marshall SA Holmes SA Brennan SA SouthDistrict 15 Laredo Nixon La Joya Lincoln Mission Edinburgh Edinburgh Vela Edinburgh North Edinburgh EconoDistrict 16 Weslaco Brownsville Rivera Brownsville Hannah Harlingen South Donna North PSJA North PSJA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Oof....to all of the above. (Great work, @Mavchamp) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 A few observations as an outsider (5A fan) with no dog in the fight....... 6A-Div I -El Paso Franklin needs a free pass..... even though they have 6A Div I numbers... it's INSANE to make them drive those crazy distances when there are SEVEN EP schools in 6A Div II.... let them play down for football. I mean... COME ON. -The Permian Basin schools or their district mates are going to get shafted no matter what. Drop them to a 5 team district and you now have them scrambling for SIX non-district games.... in the middle of nowhere. That's tough. But finding sacrificial lambs to send them is bad too. El Paso leaves a district full of schools they could be playing. But can you imagine Arlington or Trinity being forced out that way.... when they are literally surrounded by 6A-D1 schools. Tough thing to fix. No matter what.... someone's not happy, or you have issues with scheduling/travel. - The I-35 Corridor is tough too.... the Killeen schools and Belton are going to travel no matter what. Either to the metroplex... or to Austin. - Most of the Dallas and Houston area districts are nothing to complain about (except traffic). Not a lot of crazy mileage. Some goot rivalries intact... and some new ones to be formed. - Gotta feel bad for Del Rio... they are on an island. But putting them with SA makes more sense than sending them south.... - Driving for the border district is awful. District 16 and District 2 may be the biggest reasons we don't see a split. -------- 6A Div II - As terrible as Div I is for EP.... Division II looks glorious. I stand by my call to let EP Franklin drop to Div II for football. But sometimes common sense isn't what UIL is known for. - District 2 in Div II is just as awful as District 2 in Division I...... only worse. Stretching from Western DFW all the way to Abilene and into the Panhandle.... it's a nightmare. - Tyler Lee is a problem. Can't really shove them into district 4 because it's already packed (and could still have a few more....like Mesquite and North Mesquite. The problem? There are just too many DFW schools that fall into the Div II bracket.... and there simply isn't enough room to cram them all together....so someone has to get shafted..... you could arrange them dozens of ways. None of them make sense. - Centex in Div II is a little kinder.... esp for Waco/Killeen/Temple - Austin and Houstonarea schools all fit together pretty nicely EXCEPT Beaumont Westbrook. They... like Tyler Lee... and Frenship.... get the shaft for being all alone. - Eagle Pass.... they have the same issue Del Rio has in Div I.... but sending them to SA.... though a long drive... is kinder than sending them south. - Driving for 15 and 16 is awful. No two ways about it. --------- All this looking at maps and drive times brought me to this conclusion...... While it sounds great to make 6A uniform like all the other classifications.... it just doesn't make sense. Not geographically. Not economically. It breaks up rivalries. It makes it very hard for fans to make games. Arlington to Wofforth is 337 miles ONE way. Let's group as many of these schools together as we can in ONE class.... and then we can split them after the playoffs. It just makes sense to do it that way. JMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotton84 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just leave 6A the way it is now, just simply change the classification name to 7A...........no squabbling over travel............then divide the lower 5(now) classes into 6 classes - less discrepancies in the sizes of each class than it is now but travel will not change dramatically for most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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