DannyZuco Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 It seems as though the media lead many people to believe that Officer Sicknick was killed during the protests. The autopsy, released yesterday, tells a different story. It is sad that the narrative of his death was lied about in the media several times. But 2 things here--Yes, he was there to protect the Capitol, which I believe he was doing, and Why did it take so long to get the autopsy? 3 months? But he did not die from a fire extinguisher, or bear spray. Is this media injustice? It seems that George Floyd died on May 25, 2020 and they had his autopsy report on May 26--see article below the Sicknick article. https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-aud-nw-brian-sicknick-cause-of-death-20210420-znkmvmwcfjhzhbemyz7hhsmoua-story.html Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick, who was injured while confronting rioters during the Jan. 6 insurrection, suffered a stroke and died from natural causes, the Washington, D.C., medical examiner’s office ruled Monday, a finding that lessens the chances that anyone will be charged in his death. Investigators initially believed the officer was hit in the head with a fire extinguisher, based on statements collected early in the investigation, according to two people familiar with the case. And they later thought the 42-year-old Sicknick may have ingested a chemical substance — possibly bear spray — that may have contributed to his death. But the determination of a natural cause of death means the medical examiner found that a medical condition alone caused his death — it was not brought on by an injury. The determination is likely to significantly inhibit the ability of federal prosecutors to bring homicide charges in Sicknick’s death. U.S. Capitol Police said that the agency accepted the medical examiner’s findings but that the ruling didn’t change the fact that Sicknick had died in the line of duty, “courageously defending Congress and the Capitol.” “The attack on our officers, including Brian, was an attack on our democracy,” police officials said in a statement. “The United States Capitol Police will never forget Officer Sicknick’s bravery, nor the bravery of any officer on January 6, who risked their lives to defend our democracy.” Federal prosecutors have charged two men with using bear spray on Sicknick during the Jan. 6 riot. The arrests of George Tanios, 39, of Morgantown, West Virginia, and Julian Khater, 32, of Pennsylvania, were the closest federal prosecutors have come to identifying and charging anyone associated with the five deaths that happened during and after the riot. Lawyers for the two men had no immediate comment Monday. George Floyd Autopsy report: https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/04/869278494/medical-examiners-autopsy-reveals-george-floyd-had-positive-test-for-coronavirus June 4, 2020 A previous version of this story incorrectly said the autopsy report from the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office was dated May 25. The autopsy was not performed until May 26, per the report. The story also incorrectly suggested a preliminary report released Monday said the autopsy "revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation." Those words were cited last week but were not part of the report released Monday. In addition, the story incorrectly said the charge of second-degree murder against Derek Chauvin carries a maximum penalty of 12.5 years in prison. In fact, that charge carries a maximum sentence of 40 years in prison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Imagine hiring a guy to protect you that is going to stroke out at the first sign of danger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamewatcher63 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 hours ago, MavGrad99 said: Imagine hiring a guy to protect you that is going to stroke out at the first sign of danger. Imagine trying to arrest someone and following your department procedures and training and the person dying from a drug overdose.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, gamewatcher63 said: Imagine trying to arrest someone and following your department procedures and training and the person dying from a drug overdose.... Imagine how many DA ppl really believe that's what happened.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 42 minutes ago, JETT said: Imagine how many DA ppl really believe that's what happened.... Were he not stoned out of his mind, he may still be alive today. Once again, a person put their self in a bad situation. Then something bad happened. Imagine that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamewatcher63 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 44 minutes ago, JETT said: Imagine how many DA ppl really believe that's what happened.... I'm sure the majority of District Attorney's around the country would not have charged Chauvin with murder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: Were he not stoned out of his mind, he may still be alive today. Once again, a person put their self in a bad situation. Then something bad happened. Imagine that. No godly human in their right mind can watch a guy plead for his life and beg the officer to help him and sit their and watch blood run from his nose as the life is being sucked out of him.... if this is allowed in America, lord help us all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, JETT said: No godly human in their right mind can watch a guy plead for his life and beg the officer to help him and sit their and watch blood run from his nose as the life is being sucked out of him.... if this is allowed in America, lord help us all... you don’t believe in personal accountability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: you don’t believe in personal accountability? Yeah I believe in personal accountability.... this man was hand cuffed the threat that I never saw on any footage was low if any... knee to the neck was uncalled for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 If I'm chauvin I'm nervous to a extreme right now.... prosecution presented their case 100x better than the defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, JETT said: If I'm chauvin I'm nervous to a extreme right now.... prosecution presented their case 100x better than the defense According to libnut news or did you actually WATCH the live trial???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 39 minutes ago, JETT said: Yeah I believe in personal accountability.... this man was hand cuffed the threat that I never saw on any footage was low if any... knee to the neck was uncalled for Don’t get high, don’t use counterfeit money. Problem solved before it ever happened. yes, it escalated into something bad. I personally don’t think murder, but manslaughter is easy. But it never would’ve happened had he not got himself into that situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 40 minutes ago, JETT said: If I'm chauvin I'm nervous to a extreme right now.... prosecution presented their case 100x better than the defense Did you watch all of it? I didn’t, that’s why I ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: Did you watch all of it? I didn’t, that’s why I ask I watched/listened to probably 90-95% of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: I watched/listened to probably 90-95% of it. Was the prosecution that much better than the defense as Jett put it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: Was the prosecution that much better than the defense as Jett put it? I don't think so. And the people (attorneys) who "live blogged" and did summaries on the Legal Insurrection website didn't think so, either. Don't take my word for it. Read for yourself: https://legalinsurrection.com/tag/george-floyd-derek-chauvin-trial/ That has all of the daily recaps on it, and the attorney's opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, Monte1076 said: I don't think so. And the people (attorneys) who "live blogged" and did summaries on the Legal Insurrection website didn't think so, either. Don't take my word for it. Read for yourself: https://legalinsurrection.com/tag/george-floyd-derek-chauvin-trial/ That has all of the daily recaps on it, and the attorney's opinions. So we are assuming that Jett watched it on CNN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 minute ago, DB2point0 said: So we are assuming that Jett watched it on CNN? I'm not gonna make that assumption. I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, Monte1076 said: I'm not gonna make that assumption. I don't know. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Prosecutors will never be as good as the good defense attorneys. Why? The prosecution takes evidence to support the laws that were broken. It's black and white and if there is a little gray a mediocre defense attorney can tear it to shreds due to there not being anything that can directly point at "this law is broken therefore it is murder." Also if you put someone on trial for murder without a secondary manslaughter charge, and you can't prove premeditative murder then the guy walks free. It's slippery for the prosecution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, JETT said: No godly human in their right mind can watch a guy plead for his life and beg the officer to help him and sit their and watch blood run from his nose as the life is being sucked out of him.... if this is allowed in America, lord help us all... how many ODs have you seen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, Youngcoach123 said: how many ODs have you seen? Besides this one of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, RETIREDFAN1 said: According to libnut news or did you actually WATCH the live trial???? I watched trial.... not all of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 45 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: Don’t get high, don’t use counterfeit money. Problem solved before it ever happened. yes, it escalated into something bad. I personally don’t think murder, but manslaughter is easy. But it never would’ve happened had he not got himself into that situation. We can agree on that, but it isn't a death warrant... how many counterfeit money is used daily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 25 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: I'm not gonna make that assumption. I don't know. I watched links posted on here cause I'm out and about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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