Study:'900 Thousand Deaths from Covid In US'

[BarryLaverty]

Political moves, like those by that jackass DeSantis, has lead to a massive undercount of Covid deaths, according to this study. 

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/5/7/2029361/-Study-indicates-that-COVID-19-deaths-in-the-United-States-are-actually-over-900-000
 

Study indicates that COVID-19 deaths in the United States are actually over 900,000

May 07, 2021 9:08am CDT by Mark Sumner, Daily Kos Staff

As of Thursday evening, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has recorded 576,238 official deaths due to COVID-19. WorldOMeters—which includes some reported out-of-hospital deaths that were thought to be coronavirus-related but not officially diagnosed—has the number at 594,006. Both of those numbers are horrific (and include about 400,000 deaths that researchers have deemed the totally unnecessary result of Donald Trump’s mismanagement). But both of them may turn out to be far below the real total. That’s because a new study from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) has a new number: 905,289.

While it’s been clear for some time that numbers reported in countries like Iran, Russia, and more recently India are drastically undercounting COVID-19 deaths, it may seem impossible that over 324,000 Americans could die from COVID-19 without someone noting the massive error. But the thing is, 324,000 Americans didn’t drop all at once and all in the same place. They died one at a time, across the country. All it took was someone failing to note COVID-19 on their death certificate.

There have been hints that something like this might be the case for some time. After all, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis didn’t move to cover up data from county medical examiners because he was going to carefully label each COVID-19 deaths. Subsequent studies have indicated that the state undercounted coronavirus-related deaths by at least a third. A more recent study in Missouri shows that COVID-19 deaths were “much higher” than the official number and that “an accurate tally of coronavirus deaths may not be possible.” 

These states may be more the rule than the exception, and it may take some time for everyone to realize that COVID-19 was even worse than anyone credited.

From the beginning of the pandemic, Trump supporters out to downplay the danger of COVID-19 have insisted that the media was actually overreporting COVID-related deaths. They’ve insisted that the numbers often reflected people who died “while having COVID-19, but not from COVID-19.” Not only does this turn out to be untrue, the evidence is very good that many people who have died directly from COVID-19 have been overlooked.

The Missouri results, based on statistics from the state health department examined by KCUR radio, are particularly instructive. The state recorded 8,745 official deaths from COVID-19 over the course of the pandemic through April 2021. However, the number of excess deaths in the state was 13,880 higher than the same period in 2019 through 2020. In December, when recorded COVID-19 deaths were at their worst, so were the number of excess deaths not attributed to COVID-19. Excess deaths at that time were 50% above the previous year.

The first thought of many might be that the state had increased deaths only tangentially related to COVID-19—heart attacks for patients afraid to visit their doctors, or excess suicides from people trapped at home. However, despite anecdotal claims, suicides decreased in 2020. And the fact that the highest rate of excess deaths in Missouri corresponded to the periods of highest reported COVID-19 deaths suggests that the link was much more direct. People in Missouri have been dying from COVID-19, and those deaths were reported at something else—the opposite of what Trump supporters have been claiming.

However, when it comes to the big number reported by IHME, the difference is not just a matter of totaling up excess deaths and comparing them to the previous year. Instead, it used total reported deaths against a model that predicted deaths accounting for “both seasonality and the secular trend in all-cause mortality.” (“Secular” here doesn’t have anything to do with religion; it’s more in the Roman sense of “over a very long period.”) In other words, they attempted to project what the pandemic period would have looked like in a normal year, taking into account issues like seasonal flu and other factors that would have happened had there not been a once in a lifetime pandemic.

IHME then ran this model against a number of countries, finding that almost all of them undercounted the number of COVID-19 deaths. Some countries—like Russia, Mexico, and India—reported drastically fewer COVID-19 deaths than the model indicates. In Russia, that means underreporting by more than 80%. In India, it means that the official death rate is barely a quarter of what the model shows. Other countries, such as France, did a much better job of assigning cause of death, but still undershot the number of COVID-related deaths by 25%.

The end result of the study is that essentially all the excess deaths over the pandemic period are attributed to COVID-19. That’s because increases in some areas, like patients reluctant to seek treatment, were more than offset by decreases in deaths from things like travel and flu.

The study suggests that far from attributing too many deaths to COVID-19, almost every nation has badly underreported the truth. For the most part, this hasn’t been intentional. COVID-19 patients display a large number of symptoms, and deaths from pulmonary symptoms are only a segment of a much larger span of loss. It doesn’t take skullduggery to account for the massive undercount—though the U.S. is far from alone in having reasons why local medical examiners or state officials might be encouraged to write anything other than “COVID-19” when filling in the critical block on a death certificate.

More than a century later, researchers are still arguing about the actual number of people who died from the 1918-1919 flu epidemic. A hundred years from now, they’ll likely be having the same arguments about COVID-19.

But it is worse than we thought. And what we thought was already terrible.

[Hagar]

Seriously Barry, you don’t believe all that do you?   Just look at the deaths in other countries compared to ours.  We have more Covid deaths recorded than India and they have four times the people.  If anything, our count has been fudged up.  Except in the New York Nursing Homes - talk about jackasses - Cuomo.

[KirtFalcon]

dailykos? .... really??

more like daily kooks ... 

 

 

[KirtFalcon]

17 minutes ago, Hagar said:

Seriously Barry, you don’t believe all that do you?   Just look at the deaths in other countries compared to ours.  We have more Covid deaths recorded than India and they have four times the people.  If anything, our count has been fudged up.  Except in the New York Nursing Homes - talk about jackasses - Cuomo.

Our normal seasonal deaths from the flu and pneumonia all got rolled up into Covid 19 deaths to make it look like it was an out of control pandemic .... hardly any flu or pneumonia deaths since Covid, wonder why? ....

[Hagar]

2 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said:

Our normal seasonal deaths from the flu and pneumonia all got rolled up into Covid 19 deaths to make it look like it was an out of control pandemic .... hardly any flu or pneumonia deaths since Covid, wonder why? ....

It’s a freaking miracle Kirt.

[RETIREDFAN1]

Still ginning up those fake stats......

[DB2point0]

[KirtFalcon]

1 hour ago, RETIREDFAN1 said:

Still ginning up those fake stats......

But the daily kooks swear by those stats ...  ... and I'm sure they can get Snopes, Polit-a-lie and Media "lies" Matters to vouch for their accuracy .....  ..... even the NY Slimes .....

[BarryLaverty]

27 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said:

But the daily kooks swear by those stats ...  ... and I'm sure they can get Snopes, Polit-a-lie and Media "lies" Matters to vouch for their accuracy .....  ..... even the NY Slimes .....

Why don't you have your own comedy show, Kirt, with all the nicknames??? Oh, because you're corny and lame. 
 

And I was not shocked at all, by the naysaying mumbles. 

[Youngcoach123]

morerecent study in Missouri shows that COVID-19 deaths were “much higher” 
 

click on the link and it’s not to a study at all. It’s to another article quoting “health experts” lmao. What a trash article with terrible sourcing. 

[BarryLaverty]

24 minutes ago, Youngcoach123 said:

 

morerecent study in Missouri shows that COVID-19 deaths were “much higher” 
 

click on the link and it’s not to a study at all. It’s to another article quoting “health experts” lmao. What a trash article with terrible sourcing. 

So it has that in common with your 'link'. 'Scientists' who aren't scientists are always good for a mild chuckle. 

[BarryLaverty]

1 hour ago, AllGoodNamesRGone said:

That how I think about dr facci quack lol. Democrats telling us about science but can’t figure out biology ( gender), al gore still thinks the world going to warm up to kill us all, aoc well she ....

What? 

[BoyzNdaHood]

1 hour ago, BarryLaverty said:

What? 

The second time him explaining will be worse

[Olduy]

8 hours ago, KirtFalcon said:

Our normal seasonal deaths from the flu and pneumonia all got rolled up into Covid 19 deaths to make it look like it was an out of control pandemic .... hardly any flu or pneumonia deaths since Covid, wonder why? ....

And heart attacks, emphysema, cancer, car wrecks and gunshots! If they tested positive for the China Flu that was listed as cause of death for more Federal money!

[mellon]

Frick and Frack

[CarthDawg77]

How many people died WITH Covid but not FROM Covid?