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9 hours ago, cotton84 said:

Assuming the move to the SEC happens in 2022, the 2021 product on the field could be huge for the Longhorns………If Sark has the 2021 Horns playing well and wins 10+ games, recruiting and transfers probably goes really well. 
2021 Horns win 7 or less games, it probably is going to be very few 5 stars and really good transfers coming to Austin until winning(somehow) picks up. 

If the University of Texas is an expert at anything then it’s getting kids to buy into hope with no results to back it up.

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Tweeted out by a Sooner fan this afternoon: Horns and Aggies blame each other for their rivalry staying dead to this day, but I gotta say, Texas trying to join the SEC and Aggie panicking about i

I just don’t believe that. 

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21 minutes ago, Valhalla said:

If the University of Texas is an expert at anything then it’s getting kids to buy into hope with no results to back it up.

2005…….2000

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23 minutes ago, cotton84 said:

2005…….2000

At the end of the day, this is all that matters. Not Conference Championships, not top 25 rankings, not first round draft picks. Been way too long for both of these programs...

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1 hour ago, trueblue82 said:

I don’t disagree that success on the field leads to better recruiting. However, there is a  recent example that proves  it can be more about the recruiting process itself than about the product on the field. Alabama recruited the 2008 class (which was the foundation for the 2009 national championship, which was the springboard for the dynasty) during and after a 7-6 2007 season. It’s simply about getting kids to buy into what you’re selling. UT has an advantage Saban didn’t have then, too. They are the largest, most prestigious university with the best football tradition in the most talent-rich state in the country. If a recruiting staff is doing its job, Longhorn football should basically sell itself. 

And so far under Sark, there has been no first year bump with recruits. He’s got kids decommitting left and right. Quinn Ewers left for Ohio State. Cade Klubnik was right in there backyard at Westlake and they take the Malik Murphy kid over him from California. These kids don’t care about 2005 or VY or Colt. I’ve seen some guys on the Horns boards taking about how Sark basically has the same talent at Texas as he did at Bama. That’s the delusion that sets up unrealistic expectations. Just like at A&M, you have talented but untested options at QB. You don’t know what you have. You have hopes but nothing concrete as far as on the field productions.

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7 minutes ago, Stoney said:

And so far under Sark, there has been no first year bump with recruits. He’s got kids decommitting left and right. Quinn Ewers left for Ohio State. Cade Klubnik was right in there backyard at Westlake and they take the Malik Murphy kid over him from California. These kids don’t care about 2005 or VY or Colt. I’ve seen some guys on the Horns boards taking about how Sark basically has the same talent at Texas as he did at Bama. That’s the delusion that sets up unrealistic expectations. Just like at A&M, you have talented but untested options at QB. You don’t know what you have. You have hopes but nothing concrete as far as on the field productions.

Couple of notes.

Ewers decommitted under Herman.

Sark pushed harder for Murphy over Klubnik.  Sark has question marks no doubt, but you can make the argument his track record with QB's is as good as anybody in CFB.

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13 minutes ago, Red90fly said:

Couple of notes.

Ewers decommitted under Herman.

Sark pushed harder for Murphy over Klubnik.  Sark has question marks no doubt, but you can make the argument his track record with QB's is as good as anybody in CFB.

I do expect QB play to be better under Sark. That being said I think Texas fans should try their hardest to wipe the recent bama results from their minds. There isn't a single Texas starter that would have played at Bama during those two years Sark was there. The amount of talent Sark had was unreal. Texas fans do not need to use Bama's offense over the last two seasons as any sort of measuring stick. If they do it could be a rough first couple of seasons. When its all said and done there was 10 first rounders on those two teams. That talent level makes everyone look good. 

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2 hours ago, Stoney said:

And so far under Sark, there has been no first year bump with recruits. He’s got kids decommitting left and right. Quinn Ewers left for Ohio State. Cade Klubnik was right in there backyard at Westlake and they take the Malik Murphy kid over him from California. These kids don’t care about 2005 or VY or Colt. I’ve seen some guys on the Horns boards taking about how Sark basically has the same talent at Texas as he did at Bama. That’s the delusion that sets up unrealistic expectations. Just like at A&M, you have talented but untested options at QB. You don’t know what you have. You have hopes but nothing concrete as far as on the field productions.

I think Herman was still coach when ewers decommitted.  
 

what horn boards are you seeing that delusion.  Most sites I read the general concern is Texas needs to get more depth at positions, mainly in the lines. I saw one poster on 247 comparing talent to the likes of Bama and I believe that guy is a troll.  

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2 hours ago, WETSU said:

I do expect QB play to be better under Sark. That being said I think Texas fans should try their hardest to wipe the recent bama results from their minds. There isn't a single Texas starter that would have played at Bama during those two years Sark was there. The amount of talent Sark had was unreal. Texas fans do not need to use Bama's offense over the last two seasons as any sort of measuring stick. If they do it could be a rough first couple of seasons. When its all said and done there was 10 first rounders on those two teams. That talent level makes everyone look good. 

I agree with this.  They were loaded with talent.  The bright side is their offense was extremely efficient and I do give sark a lot of praise for that.  That talent was sick though.  
 

I was not happy with the Sark hire, still unsure on him.  I want to see results.  I’m tired of coach speak.  Show me.  And for the love of God and all things Holy, don’t tell me that winning is really, really hard.

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3 hours ago, Stoney said:

And so far under Sark, there has been no first year bump with recruits. He’s got kids decommitting left and right. Quinn Ewers left for Ohio State. Cade Klubnik was right in there backyard at Westlake and they take the Malik Murphy kid over him from California. These kids don’t care about 2005 or VY or Colt. I’ve seen some guys on the Horns boards taking about how Sark basically has the same talent at Texas as he did at Bama. That’s the delusion that sets up unrealistic expectations. Just like at A&M, you have talented but untested options at QB. You don’t know what you have. You have hopes but nothing concrete as far as on the field productions.

One of our DBs decommitted from UT just days ago, more than likely headed to A&M with his friend Bryce Anderson or TCU. 

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7 hours ago, Stoney said:

And so far under Sark, there has been no first year bump with recruits. He’s got kids decommitting left and right. Quinn Ewers left for Ohio State. Cade Klubnik was right in there backyard at Westlake and they take the Malik Murphy kid over him from California. These kids don’t care about 2005 or VY or Colt. I’ve seen some guys on the Horns boards taking about how Sark basically has the same talent at Texas as he did at Bama. That’s the delusion that sets up unrealistic expectations. Just like at A&M, you have talented but untested options at QB. You don’t know what you have. You have hopes but nothing concrete as far as on the field productions.

Saban’s ‘07 class was nothing to speak of. It was followed up with a 7-6 record and a independence bowl win over Colorado. The ‘08 class was the one where they really started pulling in great players. There was no first year bump there either. 

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17 minutes ago, trueblue82 said:

Saban’s ‘07 class was nothing to speak of. It was followed up with a 7-6 record and a independence bowl win over Colorado. The ‘08 class was the one where they really started pulling in great players. There was no first year bump there either. 

Anothet point is up until a month ago, it was the first time recruits had been on campus and met the staff in person.  In a normal year you'd already had a big Jr. Day (sometimes more than 1) in February, and spring practice/game where you usually get a lot of visitors in the spring..  None of that happened this year.

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59 minutes ago, trueblue82 said:

Saban’s ‘07 class was nothing to speak of. It was followed up with a 7-6 record and a independence bowl win over Colorado. The ‘08 class was the one where they really started pulling in great players. There was no first year bump there either. 

And they really weren’t “humming” until about 2011 honestly. 
 

I know they won in 2009, but they still had that dip year in 2010. They haven’t had a dip year since.

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11 hours ago, Valhalla said:

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I'm trying to figure out who this is comparing.  If it's Oklahoma they've had 3 Heisman Winners, Alabama also has 3, Texas and Texas A&M have 2 each.  

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51 minutes ago, DaveTV1 said:

I'm trying to figure out who this is comparing.  If it's Oklahoma they've had 3 Heisman Winners, Alabama also has 3, Texas and Texas A&M have 2 each.  

Oklahoma has had 7, dating back to 1952. 

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1 hour ago, DaveTV1 said:

I'm trying to figure out who this is comparing.  If it's Oklahoma they've had 3 Heisman Winners, Alabama also has 3, Texas and Texas A&M have 2 each.  

Oklahoma and Texas 

Oklahoma has 7 by the way.

Billy Vessels

Steve Owens 

Billy Sims

Jason White 

Sam Bradford

Baker Mayfield 

Kyler Murray

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12 hours ago, Valhalla said:

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Val, the SDC Aggies do not want to hear about all-time anything so you just quit it.

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2 minutes ago, HearEmaGrowlin said:

Val, the SDC Aggies do not want to hear about all-time anything so you just quit it.

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That was for a Texas guy. 

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2 minutes ago, Valhalla said:

That was for a Texas guy. 

I know, but they’ll see it and those panties will get out of whack. 

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8 hours ago, HearEmaGrowlin said:

I know, but they’ll see it and those panties will get out of whack. 

Aggie fans on SDC are like Olympic gymnasts. Their panties are always out of whack. Difference is, occasionally you’ll see the gymnast reach back and pull hers out. Aggie fans have never learned to do that. 

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On 7/23/2021 at 10:49 PM, WETSU said:

This is the stupidest argument of them all... Yea A&M is/was so scared of Texas they left and joined alabama, lsu, auburn and the occasional florida/georgia just to make life easier. Lol 

You guys and your leadership are arrogant manipulative asshats and have been for years. I can't wait for your leadership to cry to the sec commissioner about something as petty as horns down and see how bama georgia and lsu respond. Death valley will chew you guys alive. 

This was my response to the scared argument… feel free to follow me on Twitter:

 

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On 7/22/2021 at 2:30 PM, Valhalla said:

I’m going to say this one last time. 
 

NO CONFERENCE IS GOING TO ADD ANY SCHOOL WHO LOWERS THE PAY OUT PER SCHOOL.

Its why the Big 12 never added teams, and it’s why conferences won’t add teams this time around.

"OH KAY" --- said with crazy voice...as we know conferences (as in...4 conferences are going to try and get to 16 teams) -> there's going to be expansion now...

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1 hour ago, MavGrad99 said:

This was my response to the scared argument… feel free to follow me on Twitter:

 

Bring on OU and Texas. OU is good. They can come in and hang. I just want to see how Texas does after ragging on A&M ever since the SEC move that we’re an average team. Let’s see what they do under Sark (or the next HC) when they move in. Will 8-4,7-5 be good enough then? Will the “it takes time to build SEC level of depth” takes come out like they did when we tried to explain our move? Most of all I just want to settle this thing on the field. Make Thanksgiving Day matter again.

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On 7/22/2021 at 6:43 PM, HearEmaGrowlin said:

What would be the most Aggie thing ever is if they get booted from the SEC for leaking the intel in the hopes of either or both Texas and Oklahoma lawmakers putting a stop to the schools leaving the Big 12 and joining the SEC.

If it is proven A&M leaked the info to the media and the SEC had asked all schools to keep it quiet yet A&M went against those instructions in order to kill the deal out of selfish reasons you’d think the SEC conference would have a leg to stand on in court.

A&M - Out

Oklahoma, Oklahoma State & Texas - In

 

People would lose their minds.

Texas A&M welcome to the American or even better...back to the retracted Big 12

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