mellon Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashyhound Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Not sure about the Trump spin, but that poem is one of my favorites 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 hour ago, mellon said: I had to learn & recite Kipling’s “IF” way back in about the 8th grade, & like Trashy says, It remains one of my favorite poems. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashyhound Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 K Falcon, I’m not sure why i got the thumbs down but I’m guessing the Trump part of my comment. Part of the poem states “If all men count with you, but none too much” That poem with a Donald video seemed “too much” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 hours ago, mellon said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, trashyhound said: K Falcon, I’m not sure why i got the thumbs down but I’m guessing the Trump part of my comment. Part of the poem states “If all men count with you, but none too much” That poem with a Donald video seemed “too much” Nice guess .... that poem by Kipling could have been written for Donald Trump .... it fits him very well .... it's one of my favorite poems too .... along with .... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 You’re a better man than I am Gunga Din. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, trashyhound said: K Falcon, I’m not sure why i got the thumbs down but I’m guessing the Trump part of my comment. Part of the poem states “If all men count with you, but none too much” That poem with a Donald video seemed “too much” I had the same thought as you, trashy, although the Trump theme wasn’t a perfect fit for me as well, (I don’t think Kipling was thinking specifically about men exactly like Trump, rather, more humble men at much lower stations in Life..) I think his point was more that even the most humble man can achieve equal greatness if he stays true to all he believes... just my $ .02 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: that poem by Kipling could have been written for Donald Trump . All time winner of the Trump Fanboy award!!!! Oh my goodness, that is so ridiculous and yet so funny and sad. Way to go, Kirt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: Nice guess .... that poem by Kipling could have been written for Donald Trump .... it fits him very well .... it's one of my favorite poems too .... along with .... That is another great work from another great poet. Poetry is a dying art form it seems; This world is spinning much too fast for most people to stop & look & listen to their surroundings, I guess.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 32 minutes ago, CarthDawg77 said: That is another great work from another great poet. Poetry is a dying art form it seems; This world is spinning much too fast for most people to stop & look & listen to their surroundings, I guess.. Say what, poetry is out there on every radio station--especially all the hip hop and rap stuff-I mean it all rhymes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, DannyZuco said: Say what, poetry is out there on every radio station--especially all the hip hop and rap stuff-I mean it all rhymes. I knew someone would bring that up; Those people are trying to make a buck & make a name for themselves. I’m not sure the Kiplings & Frosts of the 17th & 18th century were similarly motivated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, CarthDawg77 said: I knew someone would bring that up; Those people are trying to make a buck & make a name for themselves. I’m not sure the Kiplings & Frosts of the 17th & 18th century were similarly motivated. Don't those guys also write about the injustices of the world during those centuries or the way they saw the world--what is the difference between them and now--supposedly rappers and songwriters are telling the stories through their eyes, not conventional societies eyes. While I don't like a lot of rap or hip hop music, it is people out there trying to earn money, trying to tell a story--instead of taking handouts from the government--which some may do, but it seems they are trying to earn a quick buck. Isn't that the reason we have so many 1 Hit Wonders? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 24 minutes ago, DannyZuco said: Don't those guys also write about the injustices of the world during those centuries or the way they saw the world--what is the difference between them and now--supposedly rappers and songwriters are telling the stories through their eyes, not conventional societies eyes. While I don't like a lot of rap or hip hop music, it is people out there trying to earn money, trying to tell a story--instead of taking handouts from the government--which some may do, but it seems they are trying to earn a quick buck. Isn't that the reason we have so many 1 Hit Wonders? LOL I take you point, however I don’t see their “work” being around as long as the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, CarthDawg77 said: I take you point, however I don’t see their “work” being around as long as the others. Very True, but how many other authors of the 17th and 18th Centuries do we have NO idea about, that would have been considered successful back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, DannyZuco said: Very True, but how many other authors of the 17th and 18th Centuries do we have NO idea about, that would have been considered successful back then? You are truly a Master Debater, Zuc... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, CarthDawg77 said: You are truly a Master Debater, Zuc... Everyone has a talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, DannyZuco said: Everyone has a talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashyhound Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, DannyZuco said: Everyone has a talent. Bull ! What then is Joe Biden’s talent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, trashyhound said: Bull ! What then is Joe Biden’s talent? 1. Being a puppet 2. Being a lifelong politician--there is a talent to being elected to over 50 years of service in Washington DC. If it wasn't a talent--we'd all be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashyhound Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, DannyZuco said: 1. Being a puppet 2. Being a lifelong politician--there is a talent to being elected to over 50 years of service in Washington DC. If it wasn't a talent--we'd all be there. Ok, so he does have a talent. I’ll be danged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, trashyhound said: Ok, so he does have a talent. I’ll be danged. Aaannnddd, his Butt has been wiped! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, CarthDawg77 said: Aaannnddd, his Butt has been wiped! That's not a talent--that is a medical condition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellon Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 6 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: You said that you didn't watch videos, so you just pulled a green puke out of your.........green puke thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 5 hours ago, CarthDawg77 said: I take you point, however I don’t see their “work” being around as long as the others. Exactly. I'm going to rue the day when oldies stations carry rap/hip hop music. Those are the only stations I listen to, because I think music died to an extent in 95. A few of the older Classic Rock bands still put out a good song, but even that's rare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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