reddmutt1898 Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 Too many things about the assination leaves too many questions, and too few answers. Ask yourself who stood to gain the most from J.F.K's death? How could Rubby have easy acess to Oswald , and shoot him? Why did the Dallas police look so inept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoelessjoelives Posted December 16, 2003 Share Posted December 16, 2003 All the events you mentioned were set-up way in advance. "nothing was left to chance"..............Mr. X (Donald Sutherland's character) in JFK speaking to Jim Garrison (Kevin Costner) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddmutt1898 Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 One of the biggest problems that I have with the Kennedy assasination is the rifle used. The Italian 6.5mm carcano was noted for it's inaccuracy. The Italian army said it was the only rifle that never hurt any one on purpose. The 1896 design was changed very little during the time it was used as a military weapon. The Dallas Police first said it was a Mauser, which is a much better rifle. I just don't see how it could have been done with the 6.5mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoelessjoelives Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Exactly the point....there was no way that a person could get off the rounds he supposedly (I emphasize that word) did in the time that he had to hit the target. No way that an expert could have done it either, and as we know, Oswald was no expert with a rifle, especially a "bolt-action rifle"..... And as always, my closing piece of evidence proves beyond a shadow of doubt that Oswald did not fire the killing shot which ripped JFK's head open. Abraham Zabruder captured it on the film which clearly shows that the right side of Kennedy's head is blown open which is an angle that ole Lee could not have possibly have had from that perch on the 6th floor !!! LBJ and his crew, which includes the Warren Commission on down, tried to pull an Academy Award coup on us, but one man in the right place at the right time, Abraham Zabruder, proved all of there stories to be total fabrication !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndn73 Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 i just watched a very accurate show on discovery channel that proved that there would be no "magic bullet" needed for the shot that happened to happen. they even took into account the angle of the street in dallas. but im sure some paranoid people can never be convinced. not saying the assasination didnt involve some shady situation, im just saying oswalt aws the only shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoelessjoelives Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 Have you ever seen the Zabruder film ?? If not, I guess you can have that opinion. But if you would take the time to watch that famous footage you will see that the shot that hit Kennedy on the right side of his head (grassy knoll shot) could not have possibly come from the book depository. Watch that footage, which can be seen in color, in Oliver Stone's film JFK. . Then tell me that Oswald was more than just a patsy. There were at least three shots fired from different angles that day. Please take the time to see JFK and then get back with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxBroadcaster Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 I have seen the film...MANY MANY times..I still think it was one guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheaptrick77 Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 So, Oswald just woke up one morning & decided to assassinate the President ??? :ermm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxBroadcaster Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 kinda like Hinkley woke up and decided to shoot Reagan for the love of Jodie Foster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelAG05 Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 Oswald was on his couch watcing tv when JFK was shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sppunk Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 Oswalt was set up by the Texas Mafia, because he owed them quite a bit of cash from a failed nightclub venture and he was very critical and outspoken of the group. LBJ, who headed this group while in Austin, set it up I think, as he made no secrets his hatred for Kennedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voted4Dubya Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 LBJ was the most incompetent, corupt, and disgraceful President we ever had. He never would have won an election if it had not been for George Parr and Billie Sol Estes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndn73 Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 Originally posted by shoelessjoelivesHave you ever seen the Zabruder film ?? If not, I guess you can have that opinion. But if you would take the time to watch that famous footage you will see that the shot that hit Kennedy on the right side of his head (grassy knoll shot) could not have possibly come from the book depository. Watch that footage, which can be seen in color, in Oliver Stone's film JFK. . Then tell me that Oswald was more than just a patsy. There were at least three shots fired from different angles that day. Please take the time to see JFK and then get back with us. Oliver Stone did not make JFK to be an accurate representation of what happened, its not fact. It is representative of the confused emotions the american people after the assasination. I think the assasination had alot to do with Bobby cracking down on the mafia. All i said was that this proved there was one shooter. and the zapruder film was teh basis of the forensic study i just watched. They made the exact shot happen again, so if you want to say any part of it would have been impossible with one shooter, you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndn73 Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 so rather than assuming i havent seen JFK, and assuming ive never seen the zapruder film, maybe you should assume that you havent cosidered all the possibilities. i never said oswalt wasnt just a patsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voted4Dubya Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 funny that people make a case for Kennedy cracking down on the mafia when his own family was tied to the Irish Mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndn73 Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 and made their fortune through bootlegging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sppunk Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 Originally posted by Voted4Dubyafunny that people make a case for Kennedy cracking down on the mafia when his own family was tied to the Irish Mafia And my family is tied to the Holocaust. That doesn't mean I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndn73 Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 good point, you cant fault bobby for coming down hard on chicago because his dad made the money off of illegal liqour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelAG05 Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 Originally posted by sppunkOswalt was set up by the Texas Mafia, because he owed them quite a bit of cash from a failed nightclub venture and he was very critical and outspoken of the group. LBJ, who headed this group while in Austin, set it up I think, as he made no secrets his hatred for Kennedy. very true, i know they called themselves the Dixieland Mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroupRunner Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 There were three shooters, one one the grassy knoll, one in the 6th story of the depository building, and one in the top floor of the penthouse. One shooter was Oswald, another was Mac Wallace, and they don't know who the third was. And yes, they have proof of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroupRunner Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Oh and I'd like to add something else, LBJ was deeply involved in the assasintion. Blood, Money and Power ~ By Barr McClellan. Read it, very informative and explains alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyCat2008 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Ive seen the Zabruder film..it freaked me out.lol. i think that there were at least 3 shooters. Oswald was one, and he got blamed 4 the whole thing...then was shot to keep him silent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroupRunner Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Exactly, thanks for pointing that out. I completely forgot to bring that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndn73 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 well in this show they made the same shot with one shooter, in the exact same situation. then they took the demonstration to a doctor without telling him what he was looking at and he said their were multiple gunmen. They even used an austrailian company that specializes in making exact replicas of the human body. I dont seem to be getting any reply for what im saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddmutt1898 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 The carcano rifle used by Oswald was known for it's inaccuracy. The Italian army hated them because of that. They said it was the only rifle that never hurt anyone on purpose. Had Oswald been using a Mauser rifle I would not have as much trouble believing he took the shots. The 7X57mm,and 7.92X57mm are far superior rounds than the 6.5mm carcano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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