CalallenWildcat Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 If someone comes by who can pin this, please do. We don't want it to get mixed in the shuffle A few quick facts about East Texas and why they need a CHL team Population (2004 Estimates): Tyler: 89,552 Longview: 75,306 ------------------------ Total: 164,858 and that's just the two larger towns in the area. We can't forget that there are many other centers of population such as Marshall, Kilgore, Palestine, and Jacksonville. For this purpose we can assume the population to be about 230,000 In contrast, the population of CHL cities Loveland, CO (Eagles) 57,784 Albuquerque (Scorpions) 484,246 (New arena being built in Bernalillo, population 6,956) Oklahoma City (Blazers) 528,042 Tulsa (Oilers) 383,764 Wichita (Thunder) 353,823 Bossier City 59,611 + Shreveport 198,675 = 258,286 Mudbugs Fort Worth (Brahmas) 603,337 Southaven, MS (Riverkings) 36,244 + Memphis, TN 671,929= 708,173 Youngstown (Steelhounds) 77,713 Amarillo (Gorillas) 180,791 Lubbock (Cotton Kings) 207,852 Odessa (Jackalopes) 92,844 + Midland 98,082 = 190,926 Austin (Ice Bats) 681,804 (possible new arena in Cedar Park, population 45,360 + Leander 15,874 = 61,234) Corpus Christi (Rayz) 281,196 + Portland 15,584 = 296,780 Laredo (*ucks) 203,212 Hidalgo (Killer Bees) 10,073 + McAllen 120,743 = 130,816 Therefore, East Texas would be a larger market than the following: Rio Grande Valley Laredo Odessa-Midland Lubbock Amarillo Youngstown Loveland, CO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheaptrick77 Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Sounds good to me !! ‘need a pond & a way to convince the redneck element that this is a good thing :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 I still say the East Texas Freeze LOL We could always be original and go with Longview Lobos! LMAO :thumbsup::updown::lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalallenWildcat Posted August 3, 2005 Author Share Posted August 3, 2005 Hockey Distractions...this post covers other things to do in these areas which may distract people from going to the Hockey games (hey, Central Texas lost its franchise when a movie theater opened up, this is important stuff) Loveland, CO: Near enough to ski resorts that people go skiing on weekends Albuquerque: Skiing, University of New Mexico Football, University of New Mexico Basketball Oklahoma City: Football and basketball at the Oklahoma University down in Norman Tulsa: Tulsa University sporting events Wichita: Can't think of anything except that people may travel to Lawrence for KU basketball games Bossier-Shreveport: Casinos. Casinos. Independence Bowl. Casinos. Fort Worth: Stockyards, DFW-area sporting events Southaven, MS: Proximity to Tupelo's casinos, Memphis' attractions Youngstown: Really, I can't think of anything Amarillo: Again, nothing Lubbock: Texas Tech University sporting events Odessa: Nothing Austin: University of Texas sporting events, music scene Corpus Christi: The beach on the warmer days of winter, Division I Basketball for Texas A&M Corpus Christi, and then the touristy locales on the cooler days (and lord do I hate those tourist traps) Laredo: This place is actually so boring that Corpus Christi Caller-Times writer Greg Rajan said in his blog, "Of course Laredo fans travel to away games. There's nothing else to do in Laredo." Hidalgo: Nothing. I think East Texas holds up well in comparison to these places. And btw my name for the team would be the East Texas Wolves...it just sounds cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 The only thing that would distract from the CHL team would be the HS Football Season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalallenWildcat Posted August 4, 2005 Author Share Posted August 4, 2005 Originally posted by LoboFan07The only thing that would distract from the CHL team would be the HS Football Season So don't schedule games on Friday night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss302 Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 Just give high school football the same priority as high school volley ball...problem solved. :whistle: See you at the hockey arena...I wish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalallenWildcat Posted August 4, 2005 Author Share Posted August 4, 2005 The next logical step toward getting a CHL Team East Texas needs a new arena Possible locations: Lake Tyler for the scenery and available open land Kilgore for it's relatively centralized location 323 @ 155 just outside of Tyler Ideal size: For this let's look at the average size of arenas in other cities around the CHL Bossier City 12,500 Fort Worth 11,200 Southaven/Memphis 8,400 Youngstown 5,700 Loveland 5,289 Oklahoma City 18,100 Tulsa 7,111 Wichita 9,560 Austin 7,000 Corpus Christi listed at 7,495; I know for a fact they can get at least 8,500 in Laredo 8,000 Hidalgo/RGV 5,500 Amarillo 4,986 Lubbock 6,726 Odessa 5,131 Now...average attendance at these same cities from last year's regular season in order of larger to smaller (and I will put the capacity next to it) Oklahoma City 8245 (18100) Laredo 6206 (8000) Bossier 5423 (12100) Colorado 5289 (5289) Rio Grande Valley 5171 (5500) Tulsa 4732 (7111) Lubbock 4633 (6726) Fort Worth 4601 (11200) New Mexico 4554 (13100, moving to new arena 2006-2007) Corpus Christi 4147 (7495) Wichita 3995 (9560) Austin 3966 (7000) Memphis 3563 (8400) Odessa 3313 (5131) Amarillo 3016 (4986) Something to note...CC sold out all games in the first 3 years of Franchise history, playing at the 3500 seat Memorial Coliseum. And I will take smaller but cosier anytime over the big, hulking arenas like in Oklahoma City or Bossier. Therefore I advocate building a 5,000 seat arena *with the ability to easily expand if the market dictates* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss302 Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 For any type of hockey arena to be built in this area it would have to be a multi-purpose facility. It would need to be something that everyone could use and enjoy, hockey fans or not. I see a facility that could be configured for hockey (pro hockey, public rec league hockey and public ice skating), basketball, concerts, tractor pulls & rodeos (for the redneck element), conventions and so on. I'm thinking that 5000 seats would be fine when configured for hockey. Let us dream on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 Rodeo? I dont think a Rodeo could be put in the same Arena as a hockey rink. Or could it be :coocoo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalallenWildcat Posted August 4, 2005 Author Share Posted August 4, 2005 Originally posted by LoboFan07Rodeo? I dont think a Rodeo could be put in the same Arena as a hockey rink. Or could it be :coocoo: It is in Austin and Corpus Christi for sure http://www.bucdays.com/rodeo/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalallenWildcat Posted August 4, 2005 Author Share Posted August 4, 2005 Here are some pics from Corpus Christi's arena Rayz face the flag in front of an opening night crowd of 7,495 Islanders face Oklahoma State in front of a sellout crowd (attendance not reported) http://americanbankcenter.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss302 Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 Originally posted by LoboFan07Rodeo? I dont think a Rodeo could be put in the same Arena as a hockey rink. Or could it be :coocoo: Melt the ice, lay down some plywood, haul in some dirt, add livestock and rednecks...yee-haw! Pretty sure they do that kind of stuff at CenturyTel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalallenWildcat Posted August 4, 2005 Author Share Posted August 4, 2005 Originally posted by Boss302 Originally posted by LoboFan07Rodeo? I dont think a Rodeo could be put in the same Arena as a hockey rink. Or could it be :coocoo: Melt the ice, lay down some plywood, haul in some dirt, add livestock and rednecks...yee-haw! Pretty sure they do that kind of stuff at CenturyTel. They don't even have to melt the ice anymore. There is some type of special insulating floor that you lay over it. I know for a fact that the Alamodome in San Antonio does this because they play football on top of two permanent ice sheets. I believe the same technique is used in CC, but I'm not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheaptrick77 Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 Originally posted by CalallenWildcatPossible locations: * SH 57 (between 155 & Old Jacksonville) * In Coffee City, on the banks of Lake Palestine. A team in Coffee City could have a nice ring to it, i.e. "Coffee City Conquistadors" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Coffee City? Ive never even heard of that place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalallenWildcat Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 Originally posted by cheaptrick77 Originally posted by CalallenWildcatPossible locations: * SH 57 (between 155 & Old Jacksonville) * In Coffee City, on the banks of Lake Palestine. A team in Coffee City could have a nice ring to it, i.e. "Coffee City Conquistadors" I thought about Coffee City, but a lot of the area on the banks is developed. The 57 location is quite intriguing. How about the Coffee City Capuccinos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalallenWildcat Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=199750&c=87 The letter is the first formal step toward Joplin hiring the company to build an arena with 5,000 to 7,000 seats that would have a Central Hockey League team as its anchor tenant. Joplin population according to the Census Bureau website is 46,380. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheaptrick77 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 This is getting ridiculous :mad: It's as if East Texas is the only section of our country that JUST DOES NOT GET IT !!!!!! :mad::mad::mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalallenWildcat Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 http://easttexaschl.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoelessjoelives Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Originally posted by LoboFan07The only thing that would distract from the CHL team would be the HS Football Season Hockey comes first and then the sacred East Texas excuse for a neighbor kickin' good time, high school footbawl !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss302 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Originally posted by CalallenWildcathttp://easttexaschl.blogspot.com/ :thumbsup: If we ever get a team I'm going to recommend you as the head of public relations. We need to somehow get this info to our local politicians, city council people and area economic development groups. And maybe try to make the CHL aware of our area. Bottom line...try and peak a little interest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalallenWildcat Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 Originally posted by Boss302 Originally posted by CalallenWildcathttp://easttexaschl.blogspot.com/ :thumbsup: If we ever get a team I'm going to recommend you as the head of public relations. We need to somehow get this info to our local politicians, city council people and area economic development groups. And maybe try to make the CHL aware of our area. Bottom line...try and peak a little interest! I'm currently working on getting some contact info for local and league officials for my next post on there. Let the PR war begin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheaptrick77 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Originally posted by Boss302If we ever get a team I'm going to recommend you as the head of public relations. I volunteer to be team Historian and webmaster of the Dynamos fan site !! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Originally posted by cheaptrick77I volunteer to be team Historian and webmaster of the Dynamos fan site !! ;) NO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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