GoCatsGo Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 List the defense your school runs. For the stake of the football illerate give a basic rundown of how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter3207 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 You do realize the coaches in the stands have no idea most of the time what offense or defense is being run?!?!?! All they know is we need to stop someone 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShadowKnows Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 We run that cat-wat coverage. I got this cat, you get that cat...what I thought you had that cat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtee2 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 4-2-5 that sometimes resembles 4-2-4 cause it's always a busted coverage somewhere😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Headhunter3207 said: You do realize the coaches in the stands have no idea most of the time what offense or defense is being run?!?!?! All they know is we need to stop someone Very well said .... Most everybody falls into the 5-2 or 4-2-5 (4-3 Over or Under with some variations of the Wide Tackle 6 look and the Split) - slight nod to the 5-2 from teams that I have seen over the last few years (but see a lot more use of the 4i now in their 5-2 schemes, especially vs true Spreads) ... a few run the 3-3, but most just use it as a change-up now and then ... there are a few exotics still around like the Moore 10-1, which more or less evolved from the old 7-Diamond ... personally the most exotic I have seen lately is Rusk's version of the Desert Swarm - theirs is kind of a Double Eagle with drop ends ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflag79 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 What defense? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playactionpass39 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, DOB said: Very well said .... Most everybody falls into the 5-2 or 4-2-5 (4-3 Over or Under with some variations of the Wide Tackle 6 look and the Split) - slight nod to the 5-2 from teams that I have seen over the last few years (but see a lot more use of the 4i now in their 5-2 schemes, especially vs true Spreads) ... a few run the 3-3, but most just use it as a change-up now and then ... there are a few exotics still around like the Moore 10-1, which more or less evolved from the old 7-Diamond ... personally the most exotic I have seen lately is Rusk's version of the Desert Swarm - theirs is kind of a Double Eagle with drop ends ... You have just blown the mind of over half of the readers of this forum. But you are dead right in your analysis, the 50 guys have moved to more of shade nose and a 4i or a true 3 tech on the backside to counter the spread zone concepts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coacher903 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 4-2-5 here with 3 and 2 and tight ends outside safety/linebacker combo have outside contain. More of a zone than man unless blitzing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, CoachHancock said: 4-2-5 here with 3 and 2 and tight ends outside safety/linebacker combo have outside contain. More of a zone than man unless blitzing One of the things I am noticing is more use of a 3-Tech and a down 9-Tech (what was really to us long ago as more like a True-End 8) to the Tight End side. If we had tried that in the old days, we would have been laughed out of the clinic circuit .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShadowKnows Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 hours ago, DOB said: One of the things I am noticing is more use of a 3-Tech and a down 9-Tech (what was really to us long ago as more like a True-End 8) to the Tight End side. If we had tried that in the old days, we would have been laughed out of the clinic circuit .... Because the old coach would have run power in the "C" gap all night, but the new ball coach ,is to smart for that and, will throw some incomplete passes at it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, JV_COACH said: Because the old coach would have run power in the "C" gap all night, but the new ball coach is to smart for that and will run throw some incomplete passes at it. I always ask young coaches: "Do you have an OFFENSE? or do you just have a collection of PLAYS? There's a BIG difference ... many can no longer even answer the question. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playactionpass39 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, DOB said: I always ask young coaches: "Do you have an OFFENSE? or do you just have a collection of PLAYS? There's a BIG difference ... many can no longer even answer the question. You are so right, there is a huge difference. It is one thing to add a play each week to take advantage of what the defense is giving you. It something entirely different when you look like a totally different team each week on offense because you have changed your philosophy completely. Do you coach at Tatum??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 No ... that would be my son .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playactionpass39 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 59 minutes ago, DOB said: No ... that would be my son .... Oh.... Ok..... What exactly does Coach Barker call the offense that they run in Tatum? What are they basing out of ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShadowKnows Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, DOB said: I always ask young coaches: "Do you have an OFFENSE? or do you just have a collection of PLAYS? There's a BIG difference ... many can no longer even answer the question. What is worse is when that guy is the newly hired AD and he is 40-50 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCM Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 4 hours ago, blackflag79 said: What defense? I know how you feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctown81 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Most teams in this day and age run many defenses. No one uses the same defense all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playactionpass39 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 26 minutes ago, ctown81 said: Most teams in this day and age run many defenses. No one uses the same defense all game. But, everybody has a BASE defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUSTANGMANIA Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 "Race you to the goal line" D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 5 hours ago, playactionpass39 said: Oh.... Ok..... What exactly does Coach Barker call the offense that they run in Tatum? What are they basing out of ? Variable sets based around Spread concepts ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTman7 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 New Diana....none. lol 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyCompany Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 3-4 with multiple coverages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookemhorns88 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Tackle the man with the ball. It is the easiest one to learn. Kids begin to play it in their back yard at an early age without even needing to be coached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveragain Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I think the defenses adjusting to the spread offense makes the rare triple option (Navy) or slot t successful since they are hard to emulate in practice with backups and jvs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, Hookemhorns88 said: Tackle the man with the ball. It is the easiest one to learn. Kids begin to play it in their back yard at an early age without even needing to be coached. But they don't play that around the neighborhood anymore, and schools won't let them play it during recess (due to insurance/liability), so the kids have a much harder time dealing with contact. I heard one coach lament this a few years ago. He said that kids aren't even used to falling down anymore. "One hard tackle and they come to sideline gimpy." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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