chniggy Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Is Gilmer that good or are these rankings bogus? Can some one tell me how they rank the schools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clawsnstripes Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 i think it's good that any school in our area get recognition. how much weight you put into these type rankings is a personal opinion. some poll had arkansas high was ranked in the top twenty earlier this season and they wouldn't be ranked in texas at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflag79 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Rankings don't mean doodley squat! They're for entertainment purposes only (unless you're in the NCAA Division I). They're fun to look at, but I don't buy into rankings at all, especially with a true playoff system in place. I don't remember anybody giving out state championship trophies for being ranked. The games still have to be played ON THE FIELD and any championship trophies and/or rings have to be EARNED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chniggy Posted October 23, 2007 Author Share Posted October 23, 2007 Rankings don't mean doodley squat! There for entertainment purposes only (unless you're in the NCAA Division I). They're fun to look at, but I don't buy into rankings at all, especially with a true playoff system in place. I don't remember anybody giving out state championship trophies for being ranked. The games still have to be played ON THE FIELD and any championship trophies and/or rings have to be EARNED. So why Rank'em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggie Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 So why Rank'em  I could POSSIBLY see them being ranked #44, but #41????!!!!! Somebody's off their meds.  Oggie  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THSfanatic Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Is Gilmer that good or are these rankings bogus? Can some one tell me how they rank the schools? Â Gilmer is a VERY VERY good 3A program. Ranking them 41 in the nation is ludicrous. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdsteele Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Ludicrous.......until you have to try and beat em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflag79 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 So why Rank'em So we can be entertained.... :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THSfanatic Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Ludicrous.......until you have to try and beat em. Â To believe Gilmer is the #41 team in the nation, you would have to believe they belong in the top 4 or 5 in 5A division in Texas at the very least. There's a difference in being a homer & being dillusional. Gilmer was eliminated in the 1st round last year in 3A. I doubt that they are any stronger this year. But....they are definitely a player for the 3A title. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clawsnstripes Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Ludicrous.......until you have to try and beat em. Â i don't think that was aimed at gilmer. not opening the 3A vs 4A vs 5A thing again because it's a dead horse, but a really good 3A team would struggle to compete on a regular basis against the larger schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THSfanatic Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 No it was definitely not aimed at Gilmer. I would have had the same response if Copperas Cove, Highland Park, Waco, or any of a hundred other teams that are good had been elevated to that level. I've seen years where a 4A power could compete with an elite 5A, but I don't see it this year at all. That goes double for this year's 3A crop. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdsteele Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Of course it is ludicrous that any 3A team would be ranked ahead of any 5A team in Texas. People doing these ranking have never seen those teams play. Â However, you are making a tragic mistake if you do not think Gilmer is a stronger team this year than they were last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflag79 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I think Gilmer is MUCH better this year than last, but they still have to make believers out of some of us by winning ON THE FIELD and not in polls. I still don't think these rankings are valid because there's too much disparity between the different classifications. Larger numbers mean more depth of talent. By that, I mean deeper (more) talent coming off the bench, not to mention just plain depth which means very few, if any, players going both ways. While some think Gilmer could hang with most of those teams with larger numbers, the depth factor alone would eventually catch up with them. I would prefer to see their rankings broken down a little more along the lines of classification and/or numbers instead of grouping them all together. Like I've said before though, rankings are fun to look at but............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevnasty Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 i think they are overrated, again. the past two years they have been rated in this position and never made it past the first round of the playoffs with a win. keep in mind this years ball club had thier offense shut down the entire second half of the game by a 2a school ( daingerfield) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScoutsOut Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Some of you must not pick games nationaly or have ever done any research on how these things work. Course it is just easier to pop off with an uninformed opinion and try and defend it based on what has happened in the past. Here's your signs!!....Power rankings are based on formulas, doesnt mean the team ranked could beat the team that isnt, just means based on those formulas if you were to have to pick a team, especially with an over or under the power ranking should give you some insight (Vegas Babby)!!...One reason why Francionne at A&M is so not loved in Vegas right now. If Gilmer is ranked that high, my guess is that its based on an power ranking formula...if its not then hand me my sign cause thats my opinion on this subject..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdsteele Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Lets make a correction Kev. Gilmer was not beaten in the first round in 2005. They lost to Canton in round 2 after beating Daingerfield in round one 42-32, in what would become Daingerfield's last foray into the playoffs at the 3A level. Â I miss the days when Daingerfield was a competitive 3A team. Seems like I remember 1st round playoff losses of 45-0 in 2003 to Gilmer and a 1st round loss to Gilmer in 2005 42-32. In between, they managed to go 3 deep in 2004 before getting slaugtered by Tatum 45-14. Then they manage to sctratch to 4-6 at the 2A level. We are witnessing the decay of a once proud program whose fans are now finding joy in scoring a meaningless second half touchdown in a 35-12 game against what no longer can be considered a rival. Very shocking and sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhornfan Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Gilmer in front of Katy? Gilmer has a special group of kids, but I'd have to go with Katy 10 out of 10 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aoluser7 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 To believe Gilmer is the #41 team in the nation, you would have to believe they belong in the top 4 or 5 in 5A division in Texas at the very least. There's a difference in being a homer & being dillusional. Gilmer was eliminated in the 1st round last year in 3A. I doubt that they are any stronger this year. But....they are definitely a player for the 3A title. Â Â I second that they are good but not top 41 in the nation come on now, if they not ranked #1 in 3A an no other team in 3a above them is on the list how credible is it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issacyankem Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Is Gilmer that good or are these rankings bogus? Can some one tell me how they rank the schools? Â Wonder if Gilmer's going to have another first round meltdown this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachPerkins Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Go look and see what rank Soutlake Carrol and Miami Northwestern is. That will tell you all you need to know about that poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUCKNASTY65 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 How can a 3A team in Texas be in ranked in the top 50 in the nation. There's got to hundreds of teams that are better. A 3A team just doesn't have the amount of talent and players to be ranked over these bigger schools, let alone 5A and 6A teams(in other states) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chniggy Posted October 24, 2007 Author Share Posted October 24, 2007 i think they are overrated, again. the past two years they have been rated in this position and never made it past the first round of the playoffs with a win. keep in mind this years ball club had thier offense shut down the entire second half of the game by a 2a school ( daingerfield) Â What was the final score of that game when Gilmer was shut down in the 2nd half? Who did gilmer beat in the first round in 2005 in the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chniggy Posted October 24, 2007 Author Share Posted October 24, 2007 What was the final score of that game when Gilmer was shut down in the 2nd half? Who did gilmer beat in the first round in 2005 in the playoffs? I forgot that Gilmer's score board only has double digits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comboys08 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Gilmer is bad to the bone...they deserve to be ranked 41st in the nation....i dont know if there is anybody that can hold gilmer to under thirty points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangepower Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 I dont think its that hard to see HOW Gilmer got ranked like that but I see no problem in everyone disagreeing with it. Like everyone is saying yes they are undefeated and they are a very good 3A school but how do you compare them to 5A schools? My guess is recruits. There are 2 kids from Gilmer playing in the Army All American game. Not the Oil Bowl. The big one. Every year Gilmer sends numerous kids to D-1 schools. Big D-1 at that... Texas, OU, A&M, K-State. Could it be a product of the system? Sure why not.. everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But if it is a product of the system thats some really good coaching. I have no idea what maxpreps reasoning was behind ranking them but this would be my guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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