Rabfan Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 saw this on yahoo news a bit ago..... :thumbdown: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw....html?nTar=OPUR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applebutter Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I'd say Ryan Moats is a class act. Kudos to Moats for handling a difficult situation flawlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabfan Posted March 27, 2009 Author Share Posted March 27, 2009 you know....i teach my son to believe that police officers are the guys you turn to when you need help and that they're our friends and i believe that 99.9% of them are. then some anal idiot like this makes it through the screening process and gives them all a black eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat_20 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Geez the guy couldn't rationalize the people were hustling to get inside the hospital...A father didn't even get to say goodbye to his daughter. This guy is just power hungry, good riddance, he gives all the good cops out there a bad name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Our police officers have a hard time, and I understand that. It's close to the anniversary of my fathers death. I know that one of our members here on SDC recently lost a loved one. I would have done the same thing that Ryan Moats did. I didn't see a gun pulled, and the women did not act like one was pulled. I see that Ryan did act according to his grief and the direction of the officer. I'm not going to judge the officer by his appearance, and believe you me I could. IMHO police officers should show a little more understanding around hospitals. The response times of EMS is very slow compared to someone that is in need of medical attention. Many individuals don't know how to perform CPR in this day and age, even if it has been taught to them. The officer should have realized that there was an emergency. I know if my mother-in-law was dying, I wouldn't care, because I lived with her for two months !! I don't think my wife would either, but if she wanted to make death bed ammends. I'd run the red light. To me there is nothing more important than God, and family comes second only to Him. It appears that Mr. Moats had a close relationship with his mother-in-law, and he respected her for being the mother of his wife. I think Mr. Powell took too long in examining the circumstances, and he pulled what many people do not want to see in police officers. This was the running of a red light without an accident. I overheard on the audio, that a woman's boyfriend took some scissors to his girlfriend. To me what's more important, running a red light or a potential murder ? I say suspend the officer for a week, forgive Ryan Moats for running the red light, and move on. Just my take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five0pd310 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 This is a case of one of those officers who believe a traffic stop is the most important thing they will ever have to do in their career. The Cheif was spot on. THis kid needs to learn some officer discretion. It's taught in the academy and practiced nation wide. Some people just refuse to use their common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildcatsRule Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I say suspend the officer for a week, forgive Ryan Moats for running the red light, and move on. Just my take. Suspension??? He needs to be done with law enforcement for the remainder of his life. This was more than a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Suspension??? He needs to be done with law enforcement for the remainder of his life. This was more than a mistake. He overreacted to the situation. I didn't say he didn't. What I saw from the video, he's a rookie. He's green, and no one acted like a gun was pulled in the video. I read what was said, and I saw the video. If you had a gun pulled on you, what would you do ? Ryan Moats and his family did not act like they had a gun pulled on them. They simply acted like their mother/mother-in-law was in dire straights, and they had to deal with the cops. Watch the video, read the article and then come to a conclusion. Don't jump to conclusions, if that's your take on what you saw and read, that's your opinion. I saw some shouting and arguing from both sides. I understand what police officers have to deal with, and usually someone running a red light into a hospital parking lot isn't trying to flee from police. I stated that in my original post. Ryan Moats broke the law, and the officer Powell decided to enforce the law without compassion and understanding. That's why I say just a one week suspension, and a write up on his record. I'm sure this kid has wanted to be a police officer all his life. Why take it away over the video that I saw ? He didn't order them to the ground, he didn't attack them in any way. Watch the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubs37 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 This officer is a complete idiot. Doesn't deserve termination, but I think a harsh punishment is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase.colston Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 If I were his superior, I'd fire him without thinking twice. What makes it worse is that the cop knew he was being videotaped. That makes it even more embarrassing. I hope he didn't treat everyone like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldandwhite Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 "This is the nurse. She says the woman is dying right now." Policeman: "Alright. I'm almost through...(now speaking to Moats) attitude means everything..." Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 He needs to be fired immediately....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabfan Posted March 27, 2009 Author Share Posted March 27, 2009 if not fired then he probably needs to be put in a job where he's not working with the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stSuperScot Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I don't think Powell needs to be fired, but he does need some serious counseling for that cop attitude. If Moats stopped at the red light before proceeding - as I understand was the case - Officer Friendly should have discerned that a serious situation was going on. Duh! They pulled into a HOSPITAL parking lot - not the Stop n' Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clawsnstripes Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 let's see. emergency flashers on, pulls into hospital, parks in parking space and exits the car near hospital entrance. could it be that maybe there's an emergency? let the family go in and you wait. what are they gonna do, leave their vehicle? in all his vast knowledge, the idiot cop took it upon himself to try to help moats with his attitude and tell him all the bad things that he could do to him. all the while telling him to shut his mouth as his mother-in-law died. he should be fired and not given the paid vacation that he got. what a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdsteele Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 The officer was not a rookie. He had 3 years experience. Also, the DPD has confirmed that he unhosletered his weapon. They cannot confirm he pointed at anyone. The charges have been dropped. The Chief has apologized to the family. the officer has been suspended with pay. Here is what will happen next. He will be terminated and then reinstated upon appeal by the union. that happens in EVERY case not involving overt criminal activity by the officer in the DPD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGR Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 My big question is with all the evidence pointing to Moats is telling the truth why didn't he just block the car in, with his cruiser, and walk in with the family, see that they were telling the truth then call a supervisor to make sure ignoring the violation of running the red lights is okay. They were not going anywhere, especially if he followed them in. He should be suspended and given mandatory counseling on proper way to handle the power the badge gives you. Absolutely the "Super Trooper!" syndrome. I would not have stopped either. Flashers were on, being cautious and not driving dangerously, they posed no true threat to anyone except the "authority" of this officer by not stopping when he turned on his lights. Close to the end of the in-car video the officer said something about being in a chase about 3 years ago so he is not a rookie and should have known how to handle this situation better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdsteele Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 The reason this came to light was that a Plano officer witnessed the event and thought it was so wrong, he reported it to the DPD supervisor. Additionally, the conversation at the end of the video you mentioned was in reference to a chase the officer was involved in. According to the DPD chief, the officer may have incriminated himself by indicating he "worded" the report of that chase to comply with the DPD chase policy. There is NOTHING defensible about these actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGR Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 The officer was not a rookie. He had 3 years experience. Also, the DPD has confirmed that he unhosletered his weapon. They cannot confirm he pointed at anyone. The charges have been dropped. The Chief has apologized to the family. the officer has been suspended with pay. Here is what will happen next. He will be terminated and then reinstated upon appeal by the union. that happens in EVERY case not involving overt criminal activity by the officer in the DPD. Good post. He was justified in pulling his weapon because there were alot of people getting out of the vehicle and he did not know the situation. He is not a rookie and should have reacted accordingly after finding out what the situation was. I would rather see the DPD assign him counseling with a couple of weeks unpaid suspension than terminate then reinstate. He did not see anything wrong with his actions even after watching the video replay and needs to be shown where he erred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGR Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 The reason this came to light was that a Plano officer witnessed the event and thought it was so wrong, he reported it to the DPD supervisor. Additionally, the conversation at the end of the video you mentioned was in reference to a chase the officer was involved in. According to the DPD chief, the officer may have incriminated himself by indicating he "worded" the report of that chase to comply with the DPD chase policy. There is NOTHING defensible about these actions. Good job by the Plano officer. Is Powell a complete idiot? He knows the camera is rolling and yet he makes self-incriminating statements. Not the brightest set of red and blues in the DPD I would guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easton Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 The I could screw up your life comment is what makes me think he needs to be fired. I just heard on a radio station in the Dallas area that the cops wife posted a blog on her myspace page slamming the media with quite a few f-bombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGR Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 The I could screw up your life comment is what makes me think he needs to be fired. I just heard on a radio station in the Dallas area that the cops wife posted a blog on her myspace page slamming the media with quite a few f-bombs. Class acts all around in that household. :thumbdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortal13 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I always turn on my hazard lights when I run from the cops. :bangin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLeihman32878 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 My sister's boyfriend wrote a blog entry about this incident and even included a link to the offier's personal blog, a blog that the officer has since removed from the Internet. You can still access his blog from the blog entry below, go down a few paragraphs and you'll see the link. If you the cop's blog, it sounds like this isn't his first time at being a complete idiot and abusing his powers. http://www.briancuban.com/dallas-cops-gone...owell-be-fired/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluePirate Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Yet another example of cop attitude. Any cop that states, "I could screw you over." should be fired on the spot. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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