Cowboys Draft

[ramsn03]

Cry me a river guys, you have 10 pairs of the tose colored Cows glasses, everything you say is so funny and should be on a comedy show.

[spacegolfer]

LOL!!! It's always the same people spreading doom and gloom about the Cowboys. Still the most popular Franchise in the world so they must being doing something right. Of course there are plenty other loser teams out there if you don't like what they do. Feel free to go "not support" them!

[kylews8973]

Cry me a river guys, you have 10 pairs of the tose colored Cows glasses, everything you say is so funny and should be on a comedy show.

 

Who is crying? It looks like these guys are just having a discussion and sharing their opinions on the draft. But I agree with what a lot of yall are saying. Instead of drafting 4 linebackers, they should have gotten at least two offensive linemen. Also, I think they waited too late to choose a receiver and a safety.

[THSfanatic]

LOL!!! It's always the same people spreading doom and gloom about the Cowboys. Still the most popular Franchise in the world so they must being doing something right.

 

 

Whatever they're doing right it ain't winning. I'm as big a fan as there is.....but not winning a playoff game in 5 years is a fact......not spreading gloom & doom.

 

There is a total lack of go-to receivers on this team (other that Witten). You can spin it, deny it, or refuse to acknowledge it but IT is the truth. Yeah, Roy Williams needs a training camp. But a big time receiver can at least show something in 7-8 games to show he's a force. Roy never did. I'd say Crayton is the best receiver on the squad & he's not a #1 receiver.

 

 

[BGR]

Cry me a river guys, you have 10 pairs of the tose colored Cows glasses, everything you say is so funny and should be on a comedy show.

 

Crying? If you want to join in on a grown up discussion please attempt to at least have a half-way mature opinion.

 

It is called "discussing and voicing your opinion" not crying. Why would anything we have said be funny?

 

How about instead of bashing the Cowboys or their fans, you actually discuss your favorite team's draft?

 

Kyle, I agree with you on waiting too long to pick a safety and WR. Those two should have been more a priority than LB or kicker. We will have to wait and see if things work out for the best.

 

I believe Roy Williams will have a big year and will prove to us all that trading for him was a great move. Again, time will tell if I am right or not.

 

[spacegolfer]

For one thing Dallas doesn't need "a big time" receiver. Their receivers are all pretty good and will suffice to move the ball. The running game will be different this year also. The ball will be spread around a little more we'll be more productive as a team.

 

And Dallas is winning. They have won some big games the last couple of years. Lots of things go into winning in the playoffs. It's not just about having just good players or coaching. There is the matter of luck, injuries and timing.That is why a team such as the Rams beat Dallas. On paper there is no way this should have happened. You just don't get it! There is not much different in talent on most any team. It's more about the mental edge, timing and luck. That's how teams change so drastically from one year to the next, even with pretty much the same team.

[Stoney]

could the salary cap this year and the potential for an uncapped year in 2010 have had anything to do with this year's draft? who knows. getting roy was our 1st rd pick this year. a guy cant come in halfway through the season and be expected to be plugged in. roy and romo working out already this spring getting used to one another will be huge in both players production. the nfl is a copy cat league. with ny having had success with a three headed rb and a decent wr corp, why not try it if your an hc and oc with your job on the line. if you cant run in this league you cant win. if michelin man and the red headed step child can get to the 4th quarter without having to have romo throwing lefthanded lobs and have a defense not being on the field after turnover after turnover, it should be a very fun year in dallas.

[THSfanatic]

And Dallas is winning. They have won some big games the last couple of years.

 

 

Since they have won ZERO playoff games....how do you define "big game"????????????

 

[spacegolfer]

Since they have won ZERO playoff games....how do you define "big game"????????????

You no doubt have not played organized sports. If you had then you would understand that there are plenty of big games in a season. You live in a dream world if you believe there are not.

[THSfanatic]

LOL....the more you talk the wierder it gets. Who the heck remembers the big games (in the pros) during a regular season when you don't make the playoffs? Who the heck cares??????????

 

 

Remember the big games New Orleans had last year? ........................... Me neither :wacko:

 

 

 

BTW...............it's obvious you're just stirring the pot. Let's see...........you're downing New England, talking up the Cowboys WRs, and championing Jerry Jones. You know how to push the buttons.

[spacegolfer]

LOL....the more you talk the wierder it gets. Who the heck remembers the big games (in the pros) during a regular season when you don't make the playoffs? Who the heck cares??????????

 

 

Remember the big games New Orleans had last year? ........................... Me neither :wacko:

 

 

 

BTW...............it's obvious you're just stirring the pot. Let's see...........you're downing New England, talking up the Cowboys WRs, and championing Jerry Jones. You know how to push the buttons.

So I'm guessing you can't appreciate good football. You just want to cut down the Cowboys and not admit when they do things good. I didn't keep up with New Orleans last year but I'll guarantee if you checked with them they would say they had some big games last year also.

[THSfanatic]

You've got it !!! I've pretended to be a Cowboy fan for 30 years just to get to this point where I can come out & talk trash about them.

 

[DaveTV1]

You no doubt have not played organized sports. If you had then you would understand that there are plenty of big games in a season. You live in a dream world if you believe there are not.

 

Loserville mentality at it's finest. When have MY DALLAS COWBOYS won a big game ? Go gloat and brag about beating Indianapolis, WHO CARES ? I can tell you exactly when The Dallas Cowboys won a Big Football Game it was January 29, 1996. There are no other big games, there are no other "bragging" rights. This is the NFL.

 

The funny thing about this is, I can laugh at David Smoak with his deadskins, but if he wanted to poke the finger at me what can I say ? The NFC Championship has run through Philadelphia this decade, and they're still a laughingstock with 0 Super Bowl victories. They have a big goose egg.

 

It does not matter if you win a few games at the start of the season, what matters is the end result. The Cowboys have not produced any Playoff Victories since December 28, 1996. NOW do you understand my frustration ???

 

I'm fuming mad, and this draft did nothing to help the Cowboys. Laugh NFC East, laugh. I know the NFC East fan mentality, and we're the laughingstock of the NFC East. I suppose you feel warm and fuzzy about that, spacegolfer. I don't.

[spacegolfer]

Loserville mentality at it's finest. When have MY DALLAS COWBOYS won a big game ? Go gloat and brag about beating Indianapolis, WHO CARES ? I can tell you exactly when The Dallas Cowboys won a Big Football Game it was January 29, 1996. There are no other big games, there are no other "bragging" rights. This is the NFL.

 

The funny thing about this is, I can laugh at David Smoak with his deadskins, but if he wanted to poke the finger at me what can I say ? The NFC Championship has run through Philadelphia this decade, and they're still a laughingstock with 0 Super Bowl victories. They have a big goose egg.

 

It does not matter if you win a few games at the start of the season, what matters is the end result. The Cowboys have not produced any Playoff Victories since December 28, 1996. NOW do you understand my frustration ???

 

I'm fuming mad, and this draft did nothing to help the Cowboys. Laugh NFC East, laugh. I know the NFC East fan mentality, and we're the laughingstock of the NFC East. I suppose you feel warm and fuzzy about that, spacegolfer. I don't.

I could care less about those jokers further east. Your delusional if you think the Cowboys haven't played in some big games the last couple seasons and won some of them also. Your also shortsighted if you can't see what the Cowboys were doing with their picks in this draft. Besides getting a top receiver in Williams they had very solid picks. Very good draft considering we still need to sign Ware and have about 22 Million dead money.

 

Now go "Cry me a River"!

[TrueHustle05]

Every game in the NFL is a big game, no matter how you look at it. One game can make or break a season for a team. Now if you are talking about big games in the playoffs then no we haven't won those but there are alot of big games still played during the season.

[kylews8973]

Loserville mentality at it's finest. When have MY DALLAS COWBOYS won a big game ? Go gloat and brag about beating Indianapolis, WHO CARES ? I can tell you exactly when The Dallas Cowboys won a Big Football Game it was January 29, 1996. There are no other big games, there are no other "bragging" rights. This is the NFL.

 

The funny thing about this is, I can laugh at David Smoak with his deadskins, but if he wanted to poke the finger at me what can I say ? The NFC Championship has run through Philadelphia this decade, and they're still a laughingstock with 0 Super Bowl victories. They have a big goose egg.

 

It does not matter if you win a few games at the start of the season, what matters is the end result. The Cowboys have not produced any Playoff Victories since December 28, 1996. NOW do you understand my frustration ???

 

I'm fuming mad, and this draft did nothing to help the Cowboys. Laugh NFC East, laugh. I know the NFC East fan mentality, and we're the laughingstock of the NFC East. I suppose you feel warm and fuzzy about that, spacegolfer. I don't.

 

 

Playoff victories? Geez, it must be miserable being a Cowboy fan with your mentality. Only happy with Super Bowl rings. I love winning Super Bowl as much as the next guy. That's why when I watch the Cowboys play, I cuss at the TV and swear Tony Romo is the next coming of Danny White, minus the playoff victories. But I get over it and cheer for the Cowboys the following year just as hard as I did the year before. Smoaky said it best: "Enjoy the Ride." I think a lot of Cowboy fans are so spoiled from all the success from Landry and Johnson through the years that they can't accept anything but Super Bowl rings. And when they don't get them, they're ready to take their team to the firing squad. Face it, guys. There's only 1 super bowl winner per year....1 out of 32 chances to win. Just enjoy the ride

[badblackcat]

 

 

If I can bring the topic back to the draft, It seems the main reason we got low grades is because we didn't draft early. That's understandable to me; I can't see many newspaper guys pouring over low-round picks on Sunday evening.

 

I'm also amazed at how many pundits picking draft grades had no idea how we're trying to improve with the players we have. I saw one grade where a pundit didn't like it because he thought the two DE's were an effort to replace Canty. Several didn't know why we'd draft a KO specialist. I notice a few give us credit for getting a steal with Mickens or Smith, but not both, and getting a steal like Phillips, who was a 4th-5th round projection, didn't register.

 

I'm not particularly scared of anyone the Giants/Eagles drafted. Hakeem Nicks may be the best pick out of both teams. The Giants overreached for Barden, who can't contribute anytime soon, and are forced to try and get something out of Beatty and Beckum, one being soft and the other being a petulant brat who can't digest a playbook anytime soon. Sintim I like, but if he struggles in space, in a 4-3 defense, Felix Jones and Witten will eat him alive. The Giants also got credit for drafting Bomar; I'm still not sure why.

 

The Eagles seem to get good grades mostly for getting Jason Peters, who looks bad even before he faces a good pass rusher like Joey Porter (Coincidentally, several years ago, before his division had ANY good pass rushers outside of Jarvis Green, Peters was a Pro Bowler!). Maclin may be good, but the best he can problably manage is replacing Jason Avant; if Maclin gets Avant's numbers it's nothing more than a wash to me. LeSean McCoy can either be really bad or really good; I'm hesitant to think he'd contribute soon considering he avoids contact, can't pass-block, and doesn't seem to bright. If the Eagles continue to push Sheldon Brown out of the picture, like they did Lito Sheppard, and feel peachy going with Samuels and Hobbs, then I feel much, much better. They didn't even bother to try and fill Dawkins' shoes, and didn't replace Considine.

 

 

Probably the main reason I like this draft, and several Cowboys bloggers do as well, is we addressed specific things that hurt us last year. Improved depth and special teams, improved 3 TE and 46 sets, several guys who can re-route and cover H-backs and tight ends.

[BGR]

This morning on NFL Total Access Lombardi gives Dallas an incomplete grade because they don't know it Roy Williams will perform as a Number 1 WR. Just before that Lombardi gives the Eagles an A because they traded for Peters because he is a pro bowl LT. Can you get a more obvious double standard outside of MSNBC on politics? Roy Williams has a body of work to look at just like Peters. In 2006 Williams had 82 rec for 1310 yds and 7 TDs with Mike Furrey being the second WR and Jon Kitna at QB.

 

Terrell Davis even chirped up at the end of the segment and said to give Dallas an F. Way to stay objective.

[badblackcat]

 

 

It's mostly left out that Roy had plantar fasciitis last year. If was pretty obvious that he had trouble running the further into the season we went. Taken into account that it will be healed and that he and Romo have been working pretty hard the entire offseason, I would say it's safe to expect better.

 

And I'm still laughing that anyone think Jason Peters is a great left tackle. Although he did have a good year a few years back, he's been fairly awful since; his troubles started even before the Dolphins and Jets got better. I don't think the NFC East will be kind to him.

 

[BGR]

I don't think the NFC East will be kind to Peters either. Amazing how the talking heads talk up one player and talk down another. I believe Williams and Romo will have a good year. The Cowboys offense should be very potent with Williams, Jones, Witten, Kosier and Romo healthy. Hopefully they stay healthy. So many forget the threat Jason Witten poses to defenses on game day and just focus on the WRs behind Williams. It should be a very interesting year.

 

I like the point that Joe DeCamillis, Cowboys special teams coach, made about how he doesn't like having the "special team only" type of player. He would rather have a bunch of young talent being developed for future starting roles not guys that will never be anything but special teamsaces. I don't expect to see Keith Davis back with the Cowboys barring injuries.

 

From what I have read, on Dallascowboys.com, most of the guys drafted were not drafted for special teams but, in fact, are players that can play special teams and can be developed into future starters. I can see where that fits with every player having great upside potential except the QB McGee (not a special team player) and the kickoff specialist Buehler (special teams only) unless they use him in some unique ways. These two could be future starters but do not fit the mold of the other players drafted.

[spacegolfer]

So Dave and THS ..... with your way of looking at things then I take it you both were losers in sports. Since you haven't won in the Super Bowl you no doubt had a losing career if you played football.

 

It's good to see some other great comments on here. Just bear in mind that the so=called experts are mainly east-coast and are gonna lean toward certain teams. correct me if I'm wrong. But wasn't Williams in the Pro-Bowl about 3 years ago? I think he's still plenty young and will succeed in this system we have. Especially with our QB and running-backs .... oh and don't forget our wonderful TE.

 

Dallas has had several good drafts in a row and are building a very good team. I don't pay much attention to all the double standards that these experts have. They are so biased; their opinions are useless to me. My opinion is more important. LOL!

 

I don't agree with the McGee and Buehler picks. I do see what they might be trying to do. I felt other needs on the offensive line were more pressing. We did get good value and some usable picks in this draft.

[badblackcat]

 

 

I think some media got the 'special teams' only impression from Jerry Jones in a recent interview. Can't really fault them for that.

 

But I agree, I don't see that being the case. Jason Williams especially will contribute right away in Kevin Burnett's role, and possibly an expanded role in the 46 and Cowboy packages. DeAngelo Smith should be able to contribute right away, either as a safety or corner in the nickel/dime schemes. John Phillips over Tony Curtis in all areas will be a huge improvement; Curtis was a mediocre ST player and blocker.

 

Even if only one out of Butler/B. Williams makes the team, that's still an extra edge rusher that will give teams fits, forcing them to keep in backs/tight ends. That's an upgrade over Rogers/Stewart/Octavian.

 

When I look at Dallas going and getting Brewster, there were other guards available, but all of them heavyweight plodders. Dallas went and got the guy with the best footwork and technique. He's a Kyle Kosier clone.

 

It will certainly help us fill out this package a little better:

 

[BGR]

One spot I that still needs an upgrade is NT. Ratliff does a very good job but he could be even better at DE and they need more depth behind him with a pocket pusher and space eater like BJ Raji. No chance to get him this year but there is a definite need there. Who knows Junior Siavii may be the answer at NT.

[Stoney]

that's why the draft is fun. who knows? jay ratliff was a 7th rounder. he didn't come out and start right away but after a year or two he's untouchable to our defense. who's to say with these kids now. give'm some time. philly and ny are trying to win now. getting maclin and barden to fill spots is the same as taking the williams boys.

[badblackcat]

One spot I that still needs an upgrade is NT. Ratliff does a very good job but he could be even better at DE and they need more depth behind him with a pocket pusher and space eater like BJ Raji. No chance to get him this year but there is a definite need there. Who knows Junior Siavii may be the answer at NT.

 

 

Marcus Dixon may also make the switch from DE, or play both.