delap Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 House Approves $2 Billion More........ I hate posting just a link but the story will be updated as more news becomes available so....... Your thoughts??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 More wasteful spending....we need to be cutting spending.....this economy is about to go rock bottom....don't let the temporary respite in the stock market fool you....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShadowKnows Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 :banghead: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 What are the maroons going to give us next ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 What are the maroons going to give us next ? Government Run Healthcare...... :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Articles like this are put out there to get your mind on a couple of positives while ignoring thousands of negatives.....it is a smokescreen....the economy is not going to improve until spending is cut severely........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonSwanson Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 According to a new car dealer that was interviewed in Tyler, he said there was only five thousand dealers that could use the program. Five thousand dealers and two billion dollars already, do those numbers match up? Thats a lot of clunkers. I wonder if some of that money fell through a crack somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parentofredheads Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 "There are a lot of questions about how the administration administered this program. If they can't handle something as simple as this, how would we handle health care?" the Ohio Republican told The Associated Press Pretty much sums it up. As far as the recession being over... yeah, uh-huh, right. Those unemployment claims are not in real perspective. It doesn't include the people that are coming off unemployment or who are still unemployed. Those numbers will keep going up. If healthcare, etc. keep passing, employers will be forced to lay off more employees. I believe what a lot of the economists say... it's a false bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluePirate Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I have a 'clunker' I may use to cash in on the free money... after all, according to Rabfan and Ron Paul's line of thinking, it's just tax dollars coming back to Texas. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShadowKnows Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Dont get your hopes up over a recovery. Ole Boy wrote this in may and here is the link http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress...-are-weeds.html Obama, Bernanke and the gang talk about green shoots as if the economy is about to stage a recovery. It will do no such thing. If you throw enough seeds on the ground your going to get some green shoots but when they grow you find out that they were weed seeds that will now choke out any real growth. That is what the Obama administration is doing by throwing dollars they do not have and cannot borrow at this economic crises. The only thing they will grow out of this manure field is big government socialism and a future where Americans are forced fed weeds. Don’t get mislead by talk of signs of recovery. There may be some short term recovery but it will be very short lived because all the long term fundamentals say the United States cannot recover before a dollar default or major devaluation. What that means to you is the loss of almost all wealth and continued double digit unemployment. In other words, you have seen nothing yet. Remember in the great depression of the 1930’s the same type people were saying it was over because there were major stock market rallies but the rallies did not last long and the depression when on until the Second World War. Even a war will not get us out of this economic disaster this time because we are much too far in debt. Frankly, the only solution is to scrap the whole economic system and start over with a clean slate. That of course means writing off all debt and most wealth. It would be the end of everyone’s savings and it would create a world trade war and certainly a depression. There is not going to be any easy painless solution. America’s real worth is probably less then 30 percent of what Americans think it is. America’s future commitments and entitlements simply cannot be paid with dollars that are worth anywhere near what they are worth today. There are many reasons why this crises is far from over. There are still huge economic shoes yet to fall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I have a 'clunker' I may use to cash in on the free money... after all, according to Rabfan and Ron Paul's line of thinking, it's just tax dollars coming back to Texas. Right? I'm not going to be giving back my $800 raise from the porkulous bill, either....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parentofredheads Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dont get your hopes up over a recovery. Ole Boy wrote this in may and here is the link http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress...-are-weeds.html Obama, Bernanke and the gang talk about green shoots as if the economy is about to stage a recovery. It will do no such thing. If you throw enough seeds on the ground your going to get some green shoots but when they grow you find out that they were weed seeds that will now choke out any real growth. That is what the Obama administration is doing by throwing dollars they do not have and cannot borrow at this economic crises. The only thing they will grow out of this manure field is big government socialism and a future where Americans are forced fed weeds. Don’t get mislead by talk of signs of recovery. There may be some short term recovery but it will be very short lived because all the long term fundamentals say the United States cannot recover before a dollar default or major devaluation. What that means to you is the loss of almost all wealth and continued double digit unemployment. In other words, you have seen nothing yet. Remember in the great depression of the 1930’s the same type people were saying it was over because there were major stock market rallies but the rallies did not last long and the depression when on until the Second World War. Even a war will not get us out of this economic disaster this time because we are much too far in debt. Frankly, the only solution is to scrap the whole economic system and start over with a clean slate. That of course means writing off all debt and most wealth. It would be the end of everyone’s savings and it would create a world trade war and certainly a depression. There is not going to be any easy painless solution. America’s real worth is probably less then 30 percent of what Americans think it is. America’s future commitments and entitlements simply cannot be paid with dollars that are worth anywhere near what they are worth today. There are many reasons why this crises is far from over. There are still huge economic shoes yet to fall Agree with most of the points there. However, Americans are a strong people, if they put their mind to it. Imagine if we could stop illegal immigration, send 'em packing; anyone who is on food stamps, welfare of any sort, or unemployment, guess what, you have a job, you work for your local county, city, state picking up trash on the roadside, working at govt. sponsored daycares, working at govt. sponsored food banks, working at govt. sponsored etc., etc., etc.... Betcha there wouldn't be a lot of unemployed... LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluePirate Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I'm not going to be giving back my $800 raise from the porkulous bill, either....... $800 is all teachers got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 $800 is all teachers got? yeah....our lobbyists aren't as good as GM's and AIG's...... :w00t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluePirate Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 yeah....our lobbyists aren't as good as GM's and AIG's...... :w00t: It's still $800 more than firefighters got. :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parentofredheads Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 So I just got a letter from Allen Samuels in Tyler... they want me to trade my 1 ton Dodge in, because... are you ready for this... "Allen Samuels Chrysler Dodge would like to increase their inventory of quality pre-owned Chrysler or Dodge vehicles while placing you, a loyal Chrysler or Dodge owner, behind the wheel of a brand new 2009 Chrysler or Dodge. The intent of this offer is to trade you out of your older model Chrysler or Dodge for a new Chrysler or Dodge and keep your costs approximately the same.... With factory incentives and high trade-in values, we feel confident that we can make this exchange with little or no money down at possibly the same monthly payment that you are paying now.* The U.S. CASH FOR CLUNKERS PROGRAM IS NOW IN EFFECT AND YOU MAY BE ABLE TO GET UP TO $4,500 FOR A GAS GUZZLER.** Chrysler is now offering to DOUBLE that amount, so you may get up to $9,000 in discounts!" * If the lien amount of your trade-in vehicle is more than the actual cash value of the vehicle, then you may be responsible for the difference. Vehicles with lien amounts exceeding ACF may require a supplemental down payments. All offers on approved credit. All prices plus TT&L. ** SEE WWW.CARS.GOV for details. See dealer for complete details. So lemme see... I'm supposed to take my '03 Dodge 1 ton dually running perfectly well, in, that has just barely 100,000 miles on it, that I paid $25,000 for BRAND NEW (That Allen Samuels actually delivered to my house), and only owe $2,000 on (not for the truck but for stupid horses and car for kids), and go and buy a $50,000 brand new 1 ton dually.... Not to mention, when I traded off my other Dodge, I got $12,000 cash for it... with the transmission out on it... Lemme think............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 ^^^^^^I am proudly able to answer a loud resounding NO to each of those questions^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parentofredheads Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluePirate Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 ^^^^^^I am proudly able to answer a loud resounding NO to each of those questions^^^^^^^ I'm skeptic. TRS doesn't own any stock from bailed out banks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delap Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 Me: "Oh, and one more thing ..." Operator: "Yes, sir?" (she sounds exasperated at this point and manages to twist 'sir' into an insult.) Me: "It's got a 'McCain-Palin 08' bumper sticker on it. Is that going to be a problem?" :rofl: :rofl: Please, tell us, what did she say to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I'm skeptic. TRS doesn't own any stock from bailed out banks? I have yet to take a penny from TRS....They are still taking it from me.....lol.....I still have several good years ahead of me before I have to change my answer....... :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 This is just another wasteful government "feel good" program that is about as effective as pouring Karo syrup on top of a fire ant mound to get rid of the ants. More tax money wasted on another useless program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delap Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 :rofl: :rofl: Thanks, that's what I figured she said!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clawsnstripes Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 the program was bad when it started and it is still bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNDocOfMarines Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 House Approves $2 Billion More........ I hate posting just a link but the story will be updated as more news becomes available so....... Your thoughts??? It didn't work the first time, so what does this failed administration do? They same thing they do everytime - just throw more money at it! Come on, its just money right? Could you hand me a roll of dollar bills, i'm all out of toilet paper. :thumbdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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