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#21 RedCreek49

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 04:10 PM

Biggest problam was the Saints were told by the NFL back in 2010 to stop these actions and the Saints owner, Tom Bensen told the GM to ensire these action stopped. The GM and the rest of the coaching staff including the Head Coach ignored the League and their employer. Sounds like they should be fired!

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 06:26 PM

I'm still trying to decide in my head what's worse? The Bellicheat Scandal or this scandal with the Saints.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 09:19 AM

I have no issue with the "bounty" I just hate that the morons got caught. Keeping documentation... And we all know what a safety enforcer Goodell is. They'll be plating flag football before he's done. I miss ppl getting blasted, that's why I love football, I miss the NFL segment "Jacked Up"
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Posted 06 March 2012 - 09:53 AM

I'm still trying to decide in my head what's worse? The Bellicheat Scandal or this scandal with the Saints.



HOW can you be on the fence of this if YOU said there was nothing wrong with what the giants said they were trying to do to the 49er player. INTENT to give him another concussion and DELIBERATELY TAKING OUT A PLAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You took up for the giants and said they did no wrong- the thing is you know it is all wrong and what the Saints and giants admitted to doing sould come to a hault. You can now admit to you giants for wrong doing also and still be proud of calling them superbowl champs!

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:01 AM

I have no issue with the "bounty" I just hate that the morons got caught. Keeping documentation... And we all know what a safety enforcer Goodell is. They'll be plating flag football before he's done. I miss ppl getting blasted, that's why I love football, I miss the NFL segment "Jacked Up"


The problem of the "bounty" is that they tired to put them on a cart!!!!!!!!! Many times players do not come back the same way after being carted off if they even come back! This is all most of the guys can do.....That is why many don't do well after football with money. Trying to hurt anyone ON PURPOSE is wrong!!! How about if you are making 2 million a year, you are in a contract year and are expecting to be paid over the years and they put you out of the game not on a great hit, but a bounty. Don't start saying oh we are not saying they don't say anything ending someones career. Putting someone on a cart to where they can't walk on their own is serious.

Can't say we want him out of this game but we hope he has a speedy recovery and wish him well in the future!!!!!!!!!

You can still knock the #$% out of someone and it be clean................. Here are points to consider:





• There will always be injuries in football. But the intent of a football player never should be to injure; the intent should be to hit hard, legally. American law places considerable emphasis on intent. Intending to harm your opponent changes football from something manly and sportsmanlike into something brutish and disgusting.
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• Monday on ESPN, Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young said rewarding illegal play "goes to the integrity of the game." Referring to the NFL safety crackdown that began in 2009, Young said, "under their noses, the Super Bowl champion had an institutionalized program to go hurt players." Young, who holds a law degree from BYU, supposed, "If I'm hurt against the Saints in the last couple of years, I'm suing the Saints."

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:06 AM

"I don't think Coach Payton had anything or didn't know anything about that. Coach Payton didn't have any idea what we were doing," Sharper said

.safety Darren Sharper now says this when the owner and alot of people have ALREADY said the Head Coach knew it was going on. they better get together and know what to say and not keep hurting their case.............

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 02:36 PM



Can you come out and play BayouBengal?????????

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 04:44 PM

What I find most perplexing about this whole scenario is that this wasn't so much cheating but about ethics.

I personally will never have any issue with Bill Belichick on Spy gate because coaches try to decipher opponent' signals from the ranks high school, college and pro. Belichick went too far on how he was getting those signals.

The bounty program is by far more damaging, disgraceful, distastful and certainly ethically wrong for not only was that bad for the NFL and the players but there was premeditation going on. If this was any circumstance outside of sports, people would be charged for crimes such as assault and etc.

I normally am disappointed about how Roger Goodell runs the league but, I would like to see him give Gregg Williams a lifetime ban for the NFL.
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Posted 06 March 2012 - 08:56 PM

I think many of these posters are avid soccer fans. Go enjoy your red cards, and leave the NFL alone, please.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:20 AM

I think many of these posters are avid soccer fans. Go enjoy your red cards, and leave the NFL alone, please.


ENDING ones career is more than putting a great hit on someone. That is the way the NFL is now, so get over it or just turn your tv to COPS or DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES with all those cheap shots

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 11:02 AM

I think many of these posters are avid soccer fans. Go enjoy your red cards, and leave the NFL alone, please.


"We take this issue seriously and we continue to look into it," union spokesman George Atallah said.

"I would expect this to be pretty severe and harsh because of the direction the commissioner has taken in making player safety if not his top initiative, then one of them," Lynch said. "If this is true, as blatant as this is, and to have a coach out there saying, 'You knock this guy out of the game. Get him taken off on a cart. Here is the monetary reward,' you need a severe and harsh punishment."

Looks like the red cards are coming to the NFL bud...............That one statement came from the hardest hitting saftey in the last 15 years!!!!!!! This is a serious thing and you making it like it is no big thing. I PROMISE you if somebody was purposely trying to hurt you (get you fired for good from your job) so you have to quit and do something eles you are not use to because football is all you have done and you are hoping 10 years in the NFL will help you be set for life planning on being smart with your money- you and the players assoc. would want the NFL to step in and stop it!!!!!!!!!!!

You are acting like some people don't like hard hits and all- this is not what ANYONE is saying.....you just want to act like it is all merry in la la land. I glad you like people getting hurt on purpose and think that is the NFL.- Get with the times and know what you are talking about, please. Even Ditka says hitting someone is TOTALLY different than trying to hurt someone and he is the NFL.

Why are you the only one that thinks this is a part of the NFL?? Even the UFC with all its violence has rules to stop from serious injury. To win is one thing but to win while ending someones career is chicken @#$#$............................ so i guess you have stated what you stand in......................... you must live around Pittsburg.............

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 11:41 AM

I think many of these posters are avid soccer fans. Go enjoy your red cards, and leave the NFL alone, please.


Dave... Some of them, like Rattler and Spacey etc are looking for excuses to put down the Saints which have been clearly better than the Cowboys in recent history. Anything that takes away from the attention Jerry Jones tries to bring to his 'Boys is a sin and should be condemned to the fires of hell!
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:14 PM

Dave... Some of them, like Rattler and Spacey etc are looking for excuses to put down the Saints which have been clearly better than the Cowboys in recent history. Anything that takes away from the attention Jerry Jones tries to bring to his 'Boys is a sin and should be condemned to the fires of hell!



Oh yea sure that is what it ALL about. Im not talking for spacey- but I have always talked good about Brees and their head coach. When the 49ers won I got in the love talk about the saints with you and BB. For you to say someone is trying to talk bad about them and make it sound ok is a joke. If any team had done this esp. the cowboys I would be saying the same thing. PERIOD- plus the saints did a pretty good job making themselves look really bad without Rattler chiming in. And by the way if you see my posts I think JJ is an idiot. THANKS AGAIN FOR PLAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:47 PM

Dave... Some of them, like Rattler and Spacey etc are looking for excuses to put down the Saints which have been clearly better than the Cowboys in recent history. Anything that takes away from the attention Jerry Jones tries to bring to his 'Boys is a sin and should be condemned to the fires of hell!


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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:48 PM

Oh yea sure that is what it ALL about. Im not talking for spacey- but I have always talked good about Brees and their head coach. When the 49ers won I got in the love talk about the saints with you and BB. For you to say someone is trying to talk bad about them and make it sound ok is a joke. If any team had done this esp. the cowboys I would be saying the same thing. PERIOD- plus the saints did a pretty good job making themselves look really bad without Rattler chiming in. And by the way if you see my posts I think JJ is an idiot. THANKS AGAIN FOR PLAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:55 PM

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THE SAINTS ARE A JOKE SO IS 99

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:28 PM

Oh yea sure that is what it ALL about. Im not talking for spacey- but I have always talked good about Brees and their head coach. When the 49ers won I got in the love talk about the saints with you and BB. For you to say someone is trying to talk bad about them and make it sound ok is a joke. If any team had done this esp. the cowboys I would be saying the same thing. PERIOD- plus the saints did a pretty good job making themselves look really bad without Rattler chiming in. And by the way if you see my posts I think JJ is an idiot. THANKS AGAIN FOR PLAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!



rattler... that was my bad. I got you totally mixed up with buckeye...

As for the Saints making themselves look bad... there are different things teams and organizations do to motivate and give them a "competitive edge." I don't think that the Saints did themselves any favors by doing this because I feel like they have missed some "big plays" by going for "big hits". Gregg Williams was a gambler... he blitzed 3/4 of the time and left receivers wide open way too often for my liking.

On top of all of this, I am afraid that we will be missing our head coach/OC for at least 3-4 games and possibly some players that more than likely start on defense.

Now you have to rationalize some of this mess. Players are motivated by 2 things these days (the majority of them)... (1) Money, and (2) Championships.... Extra money for a big hit on Brett Favre? I'm game.

It's the part that was left out of the program... which is the use of the word "legal"
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:30 PM

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THE SAINTS ARE A JOKE SO IS 99


None of what you say makes sense. Making the playoffs and having the #2 offense in the league makes you a joke? A bad "bounty system" makes your entire team a joke? A DC that made a bad decision yet won a SB makes them a joke?

You sir, are an idiot. Case closed.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:47 PM

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THE SAINTS ARE A JOKE SO IS 99




Who or what's 99?




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