Coach0001
Oct 4 2009, 04:17 PM
Looks like the Bad version of Tony Romo is here today
Take is 2 turnover away and it is 13-0 zip game
Good thing the defense is playing great
bluesmoke
Oct 4 2009, 04:22 PM
Why is he so afraid to throw the ball down the field. So far the dallas offense is run, run, dunk. SCARED, enough said1
Lhornfan
Oct 4 2009, 04:30 PM
QUOTE (Coach0001 @ Oct 4 2009, 05:17 PM)

Looks like the Bad version of Tony Romo is here today
Take is 2 turnover away and it is 13-0 zip game
Good thing the defense is playing great
I'm not a big Romo fan, but hard to blame him for the fumble when the outside blitz from the backside comes untouched. Also, his pick is direct result of a Hurd not finishing a route or even making an attempt at the ball. When he saw the ball was thrown wide, Hurd gave up and Champ Bailey did not. I'm so tired of watching the lazy receivers of Dallas. Crayton realizes he's doubled on a post route so he never turns on the gas and jogs the route. The problem is he didn't clear out the two DB's covering him, and Romo throws low to Roy Williams who gives his half effort.
And the defense is playing well enough to keep the Cowboys in the game. So far their best player has been the Broncos themselves with so many penalties.
IMO it's time to be on the hunt for an offensive coordinator. The calls from Garrett are coming late, and Dallas seems to have to hurry the snap over 50% of the time. Romo wants to pull a Peyton Manning and change plays, but he doesn't have time because they can't get out of the huddle.
Lhornfan
Oct 4 2009, 04:33 PM
QUOTE (bluesmoke @ Oct 4 2009, 05:22 PM)

Why is he so afraid to throw the ball down the field. So far the dallas offense is run, run, dunk. SCARED, enough said1
Just watch the WR's a few plays and you will get your answer. Watch how they jog off the ball on a run play; makes it easy for the DB's to know when we are throwing the ball. We knew coming into the year the WR's were the question mark since we were not sure we had a big play maker. We will never find out with the lazy effort from our WR's. Phillips, Garrett or the Wr's coach needs to nut it up and call these boys out during film. It's absolutely embarrassing.
Coach0001
Oct 4 2009, 04:38 PM
The play call on the fumble was probally not that good either on 3rd and 14
Outside blitz he has to feel it and either move his feet or wrap up and not fumble
Lhornfan
Oct 4 2009, 04:46 PM
QUOTE (Coach0001 @ Oct 4 2009, 05:38 PM)

Outside blitz he has to feel it and either move his feet or wrap up and not fumble
Easier said than done... ask Tom Brady - Suggs got one on him today. Mark Sanchez was also stripped from the backside that resulted in a Saints' TD.
Coach0001
Oct 4 2009, 04:50 PM
defend those 3 passes 3 open recievers and he could not get them the ball?
Coach0001
Oct 4 2009, 04:54 PM
phantom hold call on bennett hurt
556FMJ
Oct 4 2009, 04:57 PM
I think the rest of the NFL are realizing that if you put any pressure on Romo and he can't perform. He would be a FANTASTIC 7 on 7 QB though.
Lhornfan
Oct 4 2009, 05:00 PM
QUOTE (Coach0001 @ Oct 4 2009, 05:50 PM)

defend those 3 passes 3 open recievers and he could not get them the ball?
Like I said earlier, I'm not a Romo fan. He missed three open receivers... all behind them. Now, could this just maybe be because they run hard when they are open, but jog when they are covered? Hard to get timing down when WR's only go hard when they're open. Right now though, I don't know if the Dallas passing game could move the ball against air.
I'm dead serious when I say this - Dallas needs to go ahead and start looking at trading for the Raiders or Chiefs first round pick. That way we can draft a talented QB like Bradford or Clausen from ND.
THSfanatic
Oct 4 2009, 05:10 PM
My favorite scenes after the long Denver TD. Romo with a wry grin & Phillips patented bewildered look.
flukeshot
Oct 4 2009, 05:11 PM
Put up or shut up time for Romo.
Coach0001
Oct 4 2009, 05:11 PM
may not have to worry about trading for high pick
this is looking like a 6-10 pr 5-11 team right now
KATZFAN32
Oct 4 2009, 05:12 PM
QUOTE (Coach0001 @ Oct 4 2009, 06:11 PM)

may not have to worry about trading for high pick
this is looking like a 6-10 pr 5-11 team right now
if they get lucky
flukeshot
Oct 4 2009, 05:15 PM
Brilliant play.
Coach0001
Oct 4 2009, 05:21 PM
On Hurd catch official kept clock running replay look like he hit ob that would have stopped the clock and made the end different would not have had to spike it still would have had one timeout
flukeshot
Oct 4 2009, 05:23 PM
QUOTE (Coach0001 @ Oct 4 2009, 06:21 PM)

On Hurd catch official kept clock running replay look like on replay he hit ob that would have stopped the clock and made the end different would not have had to spike it later
His forward progress was stopped.
ramsn03
Oct 4 2009, 05:24 PM
Good job Cowboys, blew another one.
Coach0001
Oct 4 2009, 05:27 PM
not the play I am talking about the long play on 4-3 with 59 seconds to go
KirtFalcon
Oct 4 2009, 05:31 PM
Tony Turnover was on again today!
GTownballer
Oct 4 2009, 05:31 PM
Man, how long do we have to endure this ccrraapp, Romo is never gonna be a contender, he just continues to get worse, starting to get his receivers hurt, high uncatchable #### over the middle, If I was RW, I'd jap slap'em. Bring on Mcghee, gotta be better than this...........
556FMJ
Oct 4 2009, 05:32 PM
Time to start looking for another QB.
GTownballer
Oct 4 2009, 05:33 PM
QUOTE (556FMJ @ Oct 4 2009, 11:32 PM)

Time to start looking for another QB.
I second that.........
Huck
Oct 4 2009, 05:39 PM
Can't wait for Spacegolfer's assessment of the game.
Tony Romo ain't gettin it done. Period.
hoops4life
Oct 4 2009, 05:49 PM
he's the best we got, they ain't going to bench him with the $ they're paying him
BeatNavy
Oct 4 2009, 05:50 PM
QUOTE (flukeshot @ Oct 4 2009, 07:11 PM)

Put up or shut up time for Romo.
AGREE!!!
USNDocOfMarines
Oct 4 2009, 05:53 PM
dallasfan
Oct 4 2009, 06:00 PM
There's a reason Romo went undrafted....
bluesmoke
Oct 4 2009, 06:00 PM
bluesmoke
Oct 4 2009, 06:03 PM
That was the season right there. Cause if you look at the games after the bye week its not an easy road. And the Cowboys will not step up to the challenge you can count on that! Romo is a choker, end of story.
DaveTV1
Oct 4 2009, 06:09 PM
We do not have solid receivers. This is a rag tag group that I have not seen since the days of Powe, Dixon, Sherrard, and Folsom. I expected this game, but it hurts none the less. Why Jerry Jones thought Roy Williams was going to be a #1 receiver is beyond me.
The Cowboys were not prepared, and Romo doesn't have the accuracy to be an NFL Quarterback. I think T.O. made Romo, but I don't think anyone can help Trent Edwards. I've seen some great quarterbacks, and some horrible quarterbacks in my time. Trent is the Bob Avellini of today. Tony is a Boomer Esiason.
THSfanatic
Oct 4 2009, 06:38 PM
QUOTE (DaveTV1 @ Oct 4 2009, 07:09 PM)

I don't think anyone can help Trent Edwards. I've seen some great quarterbacks, and some horrible quarterbacks in my time. Trent is the Bob Avellini of today.
I agree !!
spacegolfer
Oct 4 2009, 06:49 PM
It's funny ready all your narrow-sighted comments. You don't watch the game and see what happens. You only worry about trying to find bad in Romo. I can get into disputing the 2 turnovers because they are a no-brainer. Neither one was Tony's complete fault. The blindside hit was just that as he was throwing and cannot be protected against if you don't know your going to be hit. Flozell should have been able to slip out but stayed inside where he had help. That was his responsibility. The int... the receiver took an in when Romo was seeing an out.
Yes Romo hung up 2 passes up high that are killer for receivers. There were still too many dropped passes. He played smart by taking the sacks instead of throwing ill advised passes.
The main problem with today's game was getting away from the run in the second half. Dallas came out with the pass as their primary play and it's not going to work that way. Some of you claim it was all Romo calling off plays just so he could pass. I doubt this is what took place most of the time. I have said all along that the run is what we need to establish and control. They did not do that. Anytime a team does not have to defend the run they can zone in on stopping the pass. This is what happened. Receivers were loafing on too many routes and just cutting their routes off when the play was still going. You can't have that and expect consistency in the passing game. You can't have a receiver running hard on one play and quit the route or jog. All that does is take any timing you have with the QB away. This causes turnovers as well.
Two plays that were missed by the refs were a hold against Bennett and a play late in the game where the receiver made it out of bounds and they continued running the clock. Two critical calls.
You guys feel free to jump off the bandwagon now. Still only one loss in our division. Hardly time for panic. Dallas will be ok as long as they don't listen to you guys. No panic mode here. Still have another game against the gnats and two games against each of the other teams in division. Wow! Real smart to quit now.
Romo ain't going anywhere. Your stuck with him. Which is great for the Cowboys!
ramsn03
Oct 4 2009, 06:59 PM
Wow you did good there, your becoming a spin expert, I'm glad they have him to I love watching them lose.
Coach0001
Oct 4 2009, 07:03 PM
I will say anything can happen but I see nothing to make me believe
I love the Cowboys but I call like I see them and I think it is 8-8 I HOPE I am wrong and will be happy to eat crow if I am
and I will agree on one point Space the play calling why did game plan change so much in the second half
spacegolfer
Oct 4 2009, 07:10 PM
QUOTE (ramsn03 @ Oct 4 2009, 08:59 PM)

Wow you did good there, your becoming a spin expert, I'm glad they have him to I love watching them lose.
I'm sorry I don't see any spin going on in my comments. I just straight up watched the game. I'll try to not take my rose colored glasses next time.
Straw
Oct 4 2009, 07:17 PM
What I saw is a terrible wide receiver group that couldn't get open if they were covered by Eric Cartman. How many times did you see wideouts standing still as Romo scrambled? Awful play calling as well!
spacegolfer
Oct 4 2009, 07:34 PM
QUOTE (Straw @ Oct 4 2009, 09:17 PM)

What I saw is a terrible wide receiver group that couldn't get open if they were covered by Eric Cartman. How many times did you see wideouts standing still as Romo scrambled? Awful play calling as well!
Totally agree with these remarks. The run was working this game. We didn't need to get away from it. Dallas was never far enough behind to rely on the pass. Barber I think had only one carry in second half and Tashard did not get many either.
DaveTV1
Oct 4 2009, 07:48 PM
This is Romo's Team, this is what he wanted. He couldn't stand criticism from within the organization, and he sure isn't going to be able to accept it from outside the organization. Everyone that supports Blomo was saying that the Cowboys had great recievers, before the start of the season. Anyone that has played football saw that the only true reciever we have is Witten. Everyone thought Big Head Austin, Roy Williams, Sam Hurd, and Crayton were going to be better than they are.
Well this is what Blomo and Jason Garrett asked for. We'll get the win next week, and if the Cowboys can't beat K.C., they have bigger internal problems than I thought. I would hate to be on the plane trip back home from Denver tonight.
THSfanatic
Oct 4 2009, 08:02 PM
Not blaming anything entirely on Romo. Never have. But every question I've had about this team is still valid.
1) Romo can't step up to put them over the top and shows no sign of settling for a controlled running game.
2) The offensive line is average at best, and that's a stretch IMO
3) This is a below average set of WRs with nobody worthy of being called a #1 WR
4) The leadership of this head coach shows no sign of improving
5) This team cannot live off the run....WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE PROMISED
6) TO was not the problem
7) Felix Jones can't stay on the field
8) Carpenter was a complete bust where he was drafted
9) The defense is good, but has absolutely no turnover or big play ability
10) We're wasting time with Garrett
11) There is nothing to show that this team is anything but average.
............I could go on..........
USNDocOfMarines
Oct 4 2009, 08:05 PM
I agree with Space, The Cowboys are 2-2 with many division games left. I don't think its time to panic yet, however it is time to be dissapointed and demand better production from the WRs and Romo. I believe the Boys will be fine, its still early. If they can all get on the same page this team will be tough to beat.
spacegolfer
Oct 4 2009, 08:22 PM
QUOTE (DaveTV1 @ Oct 4 2009, 09:48 PM)

This is Romo's Team, this is what he wanted. He couldn't stand criticism from within the organization, and he sure isn't going to be able to accept it from outside the organization. Everyone that supports Blomo was saying that the Cowboys had great recievers, before the start of the season. Anyone that has played football saw that the only true reciever we have is Witten. Everyone thought Big Head Austin, Roy Williams, Sam Hurd, and Crayton were going to be better than they are.
Well this is what Blomo and Jason Garrett asked for. We'll get the win next week, and if the Cowboys can't beat K.C., they have bigger internal problems than I thought. I would hate to be on the plane trip back home from Denver tonight.
You are mistaken when you say everyone that supports Romo was saying that Dallas had great receivers. I have never said that. I have always said our receivers are good. We do not need "star" receivers to win. That is still the case. I've already stated things that needs to take place to give us a better chance at winning. You are also wrong about the only true receiver. Witten is our most important and dependable. Williams, Crayton and Austin are good receivers.
Now, a win next week puts Dallas back in the hunt for a great season!
spacegolfer
Oct 4 2009, 08:36 PM
QUOTE (THSfanatic @ Oct 4 2009, 10:02 PM)

Not blaming anything entirely on Romo. Never have. But every question I've had about this team is still valid.
1) Romo can't step up to put them over the top and shows no sign of settling for a controlled running game.
2) The offensive line is average at best, and that's a stretch IMO
3) This is a below average set of WRs with nobody worthy of being called a #1 WR
4) The leadership of this head coach shows no sign of improving
5) This team cannot live off the run....WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE PROMISED
6) TO was not the problem
7) Felix Jones can't stay on the field
8) Carpenter was a complete bust where he was drafted
9) The defense is good, but has absolutely no turnover or big play ability
10) We're wasting time with Garrett
11) There is nothing to show that this team is anything but average.
............I could go on..........
Romo has stepped up! He has made lots of safer plays and not take as many risks in his passes. The last two games have shown plenty of improvement in the way he handles the ball. Yes he was a little off in hitting his targets today. None of his passes were considered high risk or stupid passes. That is one of the keys to becoming a better player.
Yes this team can live off the run. They just abandoned it in the second half. I might be off by one or two but Dallas ran the ball 7 times in second half and passed 27. It was pretty much the opposite in the first half. That tells you right there about the problem. Whether it's Garrett or Romo calling all the pass plays I don't know.
You are correct about T.O. not being the problem. It was the media that caused that situation and Wade for not handling what was said when T.O. was interviewed.
Where is this lack of leadership by Phillips? This team made tremendous changes from last year. The only people that say that are the ones that don't like him. I'm not a Phillips fan but I see plenty of good things as well as some of his weaker traits. This team would be 0-16 every year if they were as bad as you people complain about.
I think Dallas should have beaten both the gnats and Denver. They didn't and you know what? Both these teams are still undefeated. So just maybe Dallas and they are all pretty good.
Straw
Oct 4 2009, 08:50 PM
QUOTE (DaveTV1 @ Oct 4 2009, 08:48 PM)

This is Romo's Team, this is what he wanted. He couldn't stand criticism from within the organization, and he sure isn't going to be able to accept it from outside the organization. Everyone that supports Blomo was saying that the Cowboys had great recievers, before the start of the season. Anyone that has played football saw that the only true reciever we have is Witten. Everyone thought Big Head Austin, Roy Williams, Sam Hurd, and Crayton were going to be better than they are.
1. Changing someones name is so 7th grade, grow up!
2. Put up or shut up, who said they had great receivers?
panther-pride
Oct 4 2009, 09:28 PM
they miss Owens presence on the field. now more attention is being paid to Witten. he's not getting wide open as often as he was the last couple years. the wr's can be covered one on one. Roy is a good receiver but not a #1. Crayton is an average receiver. it didn't appear they were getting open today. Romo was sacked what 5 Times i think. most of them were because he held on to the ball to long. they need a big time receiver that defenses will respect. that would be a prority for next year if i was them.
THSfanatic
Oct 4 2009, 10:20 PM
QUOTE (spacegolfer @ Oct 4 2009, 09:36 PM)

Where is this lack of leadership by Phillips? This team made tremendous changes from last year. The only people that say that are the ones that don't like him.
Going to disagree with you there. Phillips has been a players coach all his life. After last year's disastrous end he said he's gonna change. Every player interviewed has said he couldn't change if he wanted to. You can't coach in the NFL for years & years and then re-invent yourself and be taken seriously. That's a joke.
I've been more critical of the line for years and still listen to the TV commentators talk about how great they are. Dallas either can't or won't ride the running game. It's one or the other. The coaches won't stick with it or the line can't handle it.
It's gotta be one or the other. They do not protect Romo consistently and do not physically overmatch a d line. Dallas has some average #2 & #3 receivers, but without a true #1 you aren't going to back up any defense.
The Cowboys could still pull out of this, but nobody can HONESTLY say they've given any indication they can. Other than an impressive win over Tampa Bay (who is 0-4 and getting pummeled weekly), what has Dallas really done? How many
seasons are they gonna flop around until they make wholesale changes? We've done this over a decade now. It can't be hidden by excuses, injuries, bad luck, or poor coaching. It is a complete lack of a team perfomance from the top down.
spacegolfer
Oct 4 2009, 10:46 PM
QUOTE (THSfanatic @ Oct 5 2009, 12:20 AM)

Going to disagree with you there. Phillips has been a players coach all his life. After last year's disastrous end he said he's gonna change. Every player interviewed has said he couldn't change if he wanted to. You can't coach in the NFL for years & years and then re-invent yourself and be taken seriously. That's a joke.
I've been more critical of the line for years and still listen to the TV commentators talk about how great they are. Dallas either can't or won't ride the running game. It's one or the other. The coaches won't stick with it or the line can't handle it.
It's gotta be one or the other. They do not protect Romo consistently and do not physically overmatch a d line. Dallas has some average #2 & #3 receivers, but without a true #1 you aren't going to back up any defense.
The Cowboys could still pull out of this, but nobody can HONESTLY say they've given any indication they can. Other than an impressive win over Tampa Bay (who is 0-4 and getting pummeled weekly), what has Dallas really done? How many
seasons are they gonna flop around until they make wholesale changes? We've done this over a decade now. It can't be hidden by excuses, injuries, bad luck, or poor coaching. It is a complete lack of a team perfomance from the top down.
Dallas' line has shown it can do it. They showed they could rush the ball in all 4 games this season. For whatever reason they stopped rushing the ball when they needed to run. It wasn't because they were being stopped. That's just play calling. The lines makes very nice holes for these backs to hit.
Interesting how people talk up how good these other teams and when Dallas loses a close one it's because they are a terrible team. Well you don't play these games close if your not any good. When Dallas wins people always want to downgrade the competition. They never give credit to the Cowboys because that would undermine their thinking.
Like it or not Dallas is 2 plays from undefeated in the last second of two games against two undefeated teams.
goldandwhite
Oct 5 2009, 12:00 AM
QUOTE (spacegolfer @ Oct 4 2009, 11:46 PM)

Dallas' line has shown it can do it. They showed they could rush the ball in all 4 games this season. For whatever reason they stopped rushing the ball when they needed to run. It wasn't because they were being stopped. That's just play calling. The lines makes very nice holes for these backs to hit.
Interesting how people talk up how good these other teams and when Dallas loses a close one it's because they are a terrible team. Well you don't play these games close if your not any good. When Dallas wins people always want to downgrade the competition. They never give credit to the Cowboys because that would undermine their thinking.
Like it or not Dallas is 2 plays from undefeated in the last second of two games against two undefeated teams.
The Cowboys had 74 yards rushing against the Broncos on 25 carries. That's a measly 3 yards per carry, which isn't exactly running at will. Tashard Choice's bulk of yardage was made on his runs after catching the screen pass. Why should we like the fact Dallas is two plays from being undefeated against two undefeated teams? the fact the continue to lose in this situation is what people are sick of (except for the Cowboys opponents, of course). When was the last time Romo pulled out a win in the last minute against a team (not almost did, no excuses, but when?) Dallas gambled on an undrafted quarterback and gave him an extended contract, with 30 million dollars guaranteed, and got burned.
spacegolfer
Oct 5 2009, 12:53 AM
QUOTE (goldandwhite @ Oct 5 2009, 02:00 AM)

The Cowboys had 74 yards rushing against the Broncos on 25 carries. That's a measly 3 yards per carry, which isn't exactly running at will. Tashard Choice's bulk of yardage was made on his runs after catching the screen pass. Why should we like the fact Dallas is two plays from being undefeated against two undefeated teams? the fact the continue to lose in this situation is what people are sick of (except for the Cowboys opponents, of course). When was the last time Romo pulled out a win in the last minute against a team (not almost did, no excuses, but when?) Dallas gambled on an undrafted quarterback and gave him an extended contract, with 30 million dollars guaranteed, and got burned.
The last two years there have been several wins where Romo has led the team late in the fourth quarter for a win. Naturally you won't count new york gnats games he's helped win late or Green Bay. You can look back for yourself if you want. Usually Dallas has been ahead in most of his wins and he hasn't had to come back. Romo doesn't give up the late drives where Dallas loses. That's usually the defense that does that. Romo didn't give up that long drive against new york and the last second field goal. He put them ahead to win the game with 3:40 on the clock left.
No way did Dallas get burned on their contract. He's proven to win and is still early in his career. He's only played almost 2 complete seasons. He still has one of the highest career ratings. Around 94. That includes all his good and bad games. So not too bad.
If you watched the game Dallas did run the ball well in the first half. And yes they played more conservative with their passing also. Big plus here! There was no reason to get away from something that was working.
TjcRookie
Oct 5 2009, 04:08 AM
QUOTE (spacegolfer @ Oct 5 2009, 01:53 AM)

Romo didn't give up that long drive against new york and the last second field goal. He put them ahead to win the game with 3:40 on the clock left.
Romo had nothing to do with that last drive, you, and everyone els eknows that the running backs carried us in.
I do believe Romo is a pretty decent qb, prolly in the 12-15 range ranking wise. Terrell Owens being cut was a huge loss because there is no one to truly stretch the field. In this game I saw a replay where crayton was being double covered and Romo through to RW incomplete. Last year if you covered T.O with single coverage............see ya.
Point is, Romo needs to be used much like Ben Roth was/is being used with Pitt. Run the ball, play good defense, and every once in a while he needs to make a highlight play.
This team needed T.O.
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