If you can find your schools "snap-shot day" enrollment figure, please put on this thread.

http://www.smoaky.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=101492

This thread is located in the 2010-2011 UIL Realignment Forum.

Thank you.

David Smoak

Here were the cutoff numbers from 2008-2009 (THESE WILL CHANGE)
Class 5-A (2,085 and up)
Class 4-A (980-2,084)
Class 3-A (430-979)
Class 2-A (200-429)
Class 1-A (199 and below)

2010 Snapshot Day

Mesquite (2,869)
DeSoto (2,750)
Tyler Lee (2,644)
North Mesquite (2,404)
Mesquite Horn (2,314.5)
Lufkin (2,201)
Longview (2,086.5)
John Tyler (2,046.5)
Texas High (1,989)
Highland Park (1,903)
Nacogdoches (1,690)
Marshall (1,583)
Corsicana (1,460)
Mount Pleasant (1,432)
Pine Tree (1,343)
Whitehouse (1,336)
Hallsville (1,232)
Sulphur Springs (1,130)
Jacksonville (1,128)
Royse City (1,121)
Lindale (995)
Kilgore (994)
Mabank (969)
Kaufman (950)
North Lamar (896)
Paris (890)
Henderson (879)
Chapel Hill (870)
Athens (833)
Brownsboro (833)
Wills Point (824)
Palestine (809)
Liberty-Eylau (722)
Jasper (770)
Carthage (731)
Van (670)
Madisonville (647)
Pittsburg (646)
Gilmer (628)
Center (622)
Pleasant Grove (618)
Bullard (600)
Canton (566)
Rusk (560)
Gladewater (549)
Huntington (547)
Fairfield (541)
Mexia (541)
Spring Hill (524)
Atlanta (509)
Kemp (501)
Rains (481)
Diboll (475)
Palestine Westwood (469)
Commerce (446)
Mount Vernon (433)
Tatum (421)
Eustace (419)
Mineola (418)
Caddo Mills (415)
New Boston (410)
Daingerfield (409)
White Oak (408)
Crockett (393)
Sabine (377)
Winnsboro (376)
Elkhart (362)
Prairiland (360)
Woodville (349)
Jefferson (349)
Teague (340)
Redwater (339)
Harmony (332)
Quitman (329)
New Diana (317)
Queen City (315)
Grand Saline (314)
Trinity (313)
Newton (309)
Malakoff (305)
Troup (294)
Paul Pewitt (293)
Hughes Springs (291)
Lone Oak (290)
Arp (288)
Hemphill (283)
Edgewood (282)
Corrigan-Camden (269)
Gunter (264)
Linden-Kildare (261)
Blooming Grove (260)
Paris Chisum (259)
Cooper (255)
Buffalo (251)
Elysian Fields (251)
Alba-Golden (249)
Scurry-Rosser (247)
Corsicana Mildred (240)
Winona (237)
Waskom (235)
Frankston (231)
Ore City (228)
Central Heights (226.5)
Groveton (223)
Leon (220)
West Rusk (216)
Rivercrest (215)
Harleton (215)
Union Grove (214)
Centerville (212)
Como-Pickton (211)
San Augustine (204)
Joaquin (201)
Kerens (198)
Garrison (197)
Simms Bowie (196)
Clarksville (196)
Honey Grove (195)
Hawkins (193)
Cayuga (191)
Colmesneil (188)
Cross Roads (186)
Big Sandy (181)
Carlisle (180)
Lovelady (179)
Mart (179)
Shelbyville (178)
Grapeland (177)
Alto (176)
Wolfe City (175)
Quinlan Boles (174)
West Sabine (173)
Overton (171)
Cushing (167)
Normangee (162)
Maud (157)
Detroit (147)
Beckville (144)
Cumby (141)
Mount Enterprise (129)
Fruitvale (104)
Tenaha (117)
Union Hill (91)
Apple Springs (63)
Chester (59)

what were the cutoffs last time?

Conference 5A.................2085 and up
Conference 4A......................980-2084
Conference 3A........................430-979
Conference 2A........................200-429
Conference A............... 199 and below
Enrollment cutoff* ........ 99 and below

It would be kind of interesting to see these numbers compared to last re enrollment justo to see what schools went up and what went down.

1998-1999 & 1999-2000
5A 1780 & up
4A 780 to 1779
3A 345 to 779
2A 160 to 344
1A 159 & below
* 84.4 & below
**96 & below

2000-2001 & 2001-2002
5A 1865 & up
4A 845 to 1864
3A 345 to 844
2A 170 to 344
1A 169 & below
* 94.5 & below
**91 & below

2002-2003 & 2003-2004
5A 1910 & up
4A 900 to 1909
3A 345 to 899
2A 180 to 344
1A 179 & below
* 94.5 & below
**91 & below


2004-2005 & 2005-2006
5A 1925 & up
4A 900 to 1924
3A 390 to 899
2A 190 to 389
1A 189 & below
* 99.9 & below

2006-2007 & 2007-2008
5A 1985 & up
4A 950 to 1984
3A 415 to 949
2A 195 to 414
1A 194 & below
* 99.9 & below

2008-2009 & 2009-2010
5A 2085 & up
4A 980 to 2084
3A 430 to 979
2A 200 to 429
1A 199 & b

With the New Boston and Mt Vernon numbers, 16AAA could be looking for two more members, definitely New Boston will be back to AA.

Looks like John Tyler will be dropping down to 4A next year. And if the cutoff goes up any at all Longview will stay 4A. 4A could be exremely powerful in East Texas next year.

Longview is staying in 4A.

Now the question becomes, does John Tyler request to stay up in 5A with Lee?

looks like a lot of schools are dropping down to 1a, how does this affect 2a?

I wonder if New Boston would go into Region II with Pewitt and Praririland, etc. or Region III with Daingerfield and Jefferson, etc.

Did Winnsboro turn in a number below 379 which was published in the local Winnsboro paper at the beginning of schoo?
Mount Vernon may be back in the same district if they drop.

Sabine 372

I wouldn't doubt it, but do you think it will be approved? Longview is 30mins away, Marshall is an hour, and Whitehouse is just outside of Tyler. I don't see JT staying in 5A.

San Augustine will be going 1A with a count of 204

I will never predict what the UIL would approve. I've learned my lesson with that.

But they definitely have a better case than we did.

The 1a numbers will be 200 or 205 mark my word...and that spells trouble for a lot of these 1a's that will be in rebuilding mood during the 2010 season...Uil needs to leave the numbers right where they are....BUT OF COURSE THEY WONT!!!!

Official 2008 enrollments can be found here: http://www.uil.utexas.edu/2008align/enroll.html.

Longview increased from 2005 to 2086.5. JT dropped from 2135 to 2048. Henderson (985 to 879) is very likely to drop to 3A. And Tatum (443 to 432) - back to 2A?

That could possibly put Gilmer in 16-3A.

Looks like Henderson will likely be 3A. I've heard that Kilgore could drop as well. Wonder if we could see something like this:

Kilgore
Spring Hill
Gladewater
Henderson
Carthage
Chapel Hill

That could spell the end of two 4A districts in East Texas.

We have no idea what the new numbers are. We wont know until Feb. So any prediction is just for fun because we are talking about the UIL!

Union Grove 214
Harleton 214

I could only wish that they raise the 1A limit that high, but prolly wont! Perhaps they will split it like the 1A but anyways... So be it! It is what it is

Well look what is happening in 2A, Daingerfield and all the 3A schools are going to 2A, how do you think teams like SA and Garrison could do anything with their numbers?

wonder what will happen to bullard and 173a

Looks like Longview will stay 4A and I think that's great. These two years in 4A have been fun with renewed and new rivalries, big crowds, etc. I was hoping we'd stay put in 4A. Interesting about John Tyler likely going 4A as well. Would love to have JT in the same district ... just like old times. We'll find out for sure in February.

you think they might put bullard going west again

will this put bullard going west again?

does anyone know what Highland Parks enrollment # was?

Smoaky is out of pocket for the moment, but he wanted to clarify that YES John Tyler does in fact have the option of moving up as they are from a multi-school district. However, he has spoken with T.I.S.D. Athletic Director Danny Long and there appears to be no interest in John Tyler opting up to 5-A.

Craig Smoak

Smoaky.com Vice President
99.3 TALK FM Sports Department
csmoak@smoaky.com/craig@993talkfm.com

I dont really blame them.. Why travel forever to play teams within district when plenty of 4As are around the corner..

Tatum's snapshot # was 421 today.

^^^ Different than what I was told this morning.. Either way Ill take it....

well that just ###...16AAA isnt the same or as interesting without NB

Does anyone know anything about Jacksonville's numbers? I am not concerned about them dropping, just curious to see what the actual number was.

I don't know but it seems that there are several 3a's that are dropping down to 2a, so it may even out. But who knows what the UIL will come up with????

10 teamer-
1.Marshall,2. Hallsville,3. PineTree,4. Nacogdohes,5. Whitehouse,6. JT,7. Longview, 8.Kilgore,9. JVille,10. THigh.
Mark it down HAHA!

the top of 3a is going to have to go up for Kilgore to drop, they have right around 995 and the cutoff last time was 979. wouldnt it be great for one of the smallest 4a in texas to get to be in the district with John tyler and possibly longview. I hope we drop

If I were a betting man I woul expect it to move north of 1000 this go round.

Central Heights 226.5

I hope you are right

I have to agree with you, I think 3a will be above the 1000 mark given the past history on how much they have increase from each reallignment.
Also, it looks like Kilgore and Henderson would drop to 3a. I think they would move into the 173a district and Gilmer would move north to take New Boston's spot who looks like it will drop to 2a. Either way, 3a in east Texas just got a lot stronger.

^^^^ And just keep Tatum out of all that and Ill be tickled fancy..lol

MV moving down will be a blessing , however it would just stick them most likely with the Dfield District... maybe if they r lucky they will goto the prariland of winnsboro district

Miller Grove 90

West Rusk- 208

what did white oak turn in?

What makes you think Pewitt will stay in Region II? They tend to move us back and forth. We will be ok either way and I enjoyed all of the competition from 17AA a few years ago but I hate to see good teams not even make the playoffs.

Why do you think Longview doesn't request to stay?

Isnt it because that JT and Lee are in the say school district (TISD) that allows them to have that sort of request? 3 school districts in Longview.. All seperate.. LISD, SHISD, and PTISD

Thats what Smoakster said I believe..

dont you think it would benefit JT to drop?

You are probably right. I forgot about that provision.