marvda1
Nov 1 2009, 08:24 AM
in the texas oklahoma state game, it was 4th down at the texas 40 for oki state and the texas d-back intercepts inside the 5 yard line which leads eventually to an oki score i think. just knock the ball down and give your offense great field position. i have seen this done from high school to the pros, don't coaches teach this to defensive players?
don't know if the texas coaches did or not but while the d-back jumping up and down beating his chest i would have called him over and asked him if was on offense where he would prefer to start on the 40 yard line or inside the 5.
catluv
Nov 1 2009, 08:28 AM
Chykie Brown should've knocked that ball down. He should've known that intercepting the ball on the goal line and putting his offense in a really tough spot isn't the wisest thing to do. If he'd just knocked it down we would've had really good field position, but hopefully the coaches will be in his ear about that for future reference.
football4life
Nov 1 2009, 10:13 AM
QUOTE (marvda1 @ Nov 1 2009, 08:24 AM)

in the texas oklahoma state game, it was 4th down at the texas 40 for oki state and the texas d-back intercepts inside the 5 yard line which leads eventually to an oki score i think. just knock the ball down and give your offense great field position. i have seen this done from high school to the pros, don't coaches teach this to defensive players?
don't know if the texas coaches did or not but while the d-back jumping up and down beating his chest i would have called him over and asked him if was on offense where he would prefer to start on the 40 yard line or inside the 5.
The simple answer is, he doesn't care. He wants the INT stat next to his name at the end of the game, team be damned. It's not just him, it's most players nowadays. It's the same stuff you see when a player makes a game ending pick and then tries to run it back. They could easily fumble the ball and cost their team the game, but they want the pick 6.
BeatNavy
Nov 1 2009, 10:40 AM
QUOTE (football4life @ Nov 1 2009, 11:13 AM)

The simple answer is, he doesn't care. He wants the INT stat next to his name at the end of the game, team be damned. It's not just him, it's most players nowadays. It's the same stuff you see when a player makes a game ending pick and then tries to run it back. They could easily fumble the ball and cost their team the game, but they want the pick 6.
oh come on....that's pretty belittling. My thought is Brown's interception was an instinctive move on his part. That's what DBs are suppose to do. But that is not to say I don't agree that he should have knocked the ball down. Obviously, he was not thinking...I'm sure Coach Akina will say something to him.
gcpride
Nov 1 2009, 01:43 PM
The best play at that time would have been to knock it down. But really its one of those split second decision, and when a DB has a ball flying to him, he is going to grab it and make a play for the defense.
CoachBennett
Nov 1 2009, 02:21 PM
QUOTE (football4life @ Nov 1 2009, 10:13 AM)

The simple answer is, he doesn't care. He wants the INT stat next to his name at the end of the game, team be damned. It's not just him, it's most players nowadays. It's the same stuff you see when a player makes a game ending pick and then tries to run it back. They could easily fumble the ball and cost their team the game, but they want the pick 6.
WOW that is extreme to say that. It is called instinct. Also lets say he just tries to swat the ball down and instead it takes a bounce off his hands into the air and is caught.
marvda1
Nov 1 2009, 02:36 PM
QUOTE (CoachBennett @ Nov 1 2009, 02:21 PM)

WOW that is extreme to say that. It is called instinct. Also lets say he just tries to swat the ball down and instead it takes a bounce off his hands into the air and is caught.
the same could thing could happen if he tries to intercept the ball, bounce off his hands and is caught by the receiver.
Lhornfan
Nov 1 2009, 05:04 PM
Chykie Brown should have known the down and distance and knocked the ball down. However, he high-pointed the ball and made the pick. I've coached DBs from 3A-5A for 16 years, and it is instinct for them to go for the interception. Ocassionally you will see a smart play on a fourth down by a DB, and he will just knock it down. I wish Chykie would have done the same, but I can live with his interception because I've been there and understand instincts. BUT I do not like the fact that he was celebrating his pick acting like he was signing autographs. The fact is, he was the weak spot in the secondary last night. I also didn't like seeing Blake Gideon show HIS numbers to the crowd after his interception. While I know it's tough dealing with the egos of D1 athletes, Mack needs to teach these guys a little humility. Take cue from Earl Thomas - he handed the ball to the official after his pick six, or Jordan Shipley - he fair caught a punt and tossed it to the ref. The toss was bad and the ref didn't catch it because he couldn't lose his spot; Jordan ran back to get the ball for him instead of waiting on a ball boy. Celebrating with your teammates is fine - showboating is not.
BeatNavy
Nov 1 2009, 06:35 PM
QUOTE (Lhornfan @ Nov 1 2009, 06:04 PM)

Chykie Brown should have known the down and distance and knocked the ball down. However, he high-pointed the ball and made the pick. I've coached DBs from 3A-5A for 16 years, and it is instinct for them to go for the interception. Ocassionally you will see a smart play on a fourth down by a DB, and he will just knock it down. I wish Chykie would have done the same, but I can live with his interception because I've been there and understand instincts. BUT I do not like the fact that he was celebrating his pick acting like he was signing autographs. The fact is, he was the weak spot in the secondary last night. I also didn't like seeing Blake Gideon show HIS numbers to the crowd after his interception. While I know it's tough dealing with the egos of D1 athletes, Mack needs to teach these guys a little humility. Take cue from Earl Thomas - he handed the ball to the official after his pick six, or Jordan Shipley - he fair caught a punt and tossed it to the ref. The toss was bad and the ref didn't catch it because he couldn't lose his spot; Jordan ran back to get the ball for him instead of waiting on a ball boy. Celebrating with your teammates is fine - showboating is not.
I agree with everything you said; but ya know, reference Gideon, I'm sure he was catching heck from those students and fans hanging over the Texas bench and I'm sure there was some reference to last year's game at TT somewhere along the line. So in this case, it was not his number he was showing, it was the Texas on his jersey. In Gideon's case, stick it in those fans faces. He's handled the last year since TT with a lot of class. I'm sure the juices were flowing. He was sure working to get in the endzone on that interception. I think you lose some control with your players with that sideline situation at Boone-Pickins stadium. Your players are pumped up big time and those fans are right on you; not a good situation.
Lhornfan
Nov 1 2009, 08:46 PM
QUOTE (BeatNavy @ Nov 1 2009, 06:35 PM)

I agree with everything you said; but ya know, reference Gideon, I'm sure he was catching heck from those students and fans hanging over the Texas bench and I'm sure there was some reference to last year's game at TT somewhere along the line. So in this case, it was not his number he was showing, it was the Texas on his jersey. In Gideon's case, stick it in those fans faces. He's handled the last year since TT with a lot of class. I'm sure the juices were flowing. He was sure working to get in the endzone on that interception. I think you lose some control with your players with that sideline situation at Boone-Pickins stadium. Your players are pumped up big time and those fans are right on you; not a good situation.
Yeah, there wasn't much thought put into the safety of the players when planning OSU's stadium. I saw multiple times last night when players were knocked out of bounds into benches. You could tell the players were told to "catch" their teammates if they were drove out of bounds. As for Gideon, I know his juices were flowing, but he ran down the sideline to show out. I'm sure 2 minutes later he was second guessing his decision.
Longarm79
Nov 1 2009, 09:04 PM
Mack Brown could have accepted the penalty on that play which would have nullified the pick by Chykie. The game was out of hand so Mack Brown let Chykie keep his int. My hats off to Mack for letting Chykie keep his int.
Lhornfan
Nov 1 2009, 09:06 PM
QUOTE (Longarm79 @ Nov 1 2009, 09:04 PM)

Mack Brown could have accepted the penalty on that play which would have nullified the pick by Chykie. The game was out of hand so Mack Brown let Chykie keep his int. My hats off to Mack for letting Chykie keep his int.
I don't think Mack declined the penalty to allow Chykie to keep his pick, I think he declined the penalty to keep the ball. Regardless of the D&D, why give OSU another chance?
n5ifi
Nov 1 2009, 09:26 PM
In that situation if he can catch the football, I want him to catch it.
I've been much more disturbed with the poor, poor punting for Texas especially when they are that deep in the playing field.
They used to have great punters. What happened?
HvilleCat23
Nov 2 2009, 01:19 AM
He may have had on my mind, " two of my boys just returned 2 for TDs... lets see if i can" before getting tackled from behind. Idk, it just seems more likely than some of these other posts. He got his chance and thought "heres my chance" and yes it did bite Texas, but with us in the lead like that i really dont see it hurting anything.
PirateFamily
Nov 2 2009, 10:37 AM
QUOTE (football4life @ Nov 1 2009, 10:13 AM)

The simple answer is, he doesn't care. He wants the INT stat next to his name at the end of the game, team be damned. It's not just him, it's most players nowadays. It's the same stuff you see when a player makes a game ending pick and then tries to run it back. They could easily fumble the ball and cost their team the game, but they want the pick 6.
BINGO...He wanted the stat...Simple as that. You can bet that those coaches teach their players not to pick that ball off deep on 4th down. Just as we teach our kids that at the high school level!
Eaglefootball
Nov 2 2009, 01:53 PM
QUOTE (PirateFamily @ Nov 2 2009, 11:37 AM)

BINGO...He wanted the stat...Simple as that. You can bet that those coaches teach their players not to pick that ball off deep on 4th down. Just as we teach our kids that at the high school level!
Yea i want to see you out there playing in a huge game in front of 60,000 plus, with your adrenaline cranked up as high as it can get. My bet is you might do the same thing. Down and distance probably never crossed his mind when an easy pick is floating into his hands. He was trying to make a play. Completely irrelavent to the game
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