I remember a couple of years back when Tom Glavine got his 300th win........everyone was saying.....he's the last one.....Tom will be the last 300 win pitcher.

Randy Johnson was the closest pithcer at that time, to Glavine, with wins at somewhere in the mid 280's and battling a back injury was out on surgery for that problem. Plus Randy was like 44 years old....I think.

Well Randy got well and joined the 300 club this summer.

Now everyone is saying it again......"Randy is The Last One"

What do ya think? Will Randy be the last pitcher to earn 300 career wins?

I have learned to never say never (trite) . . . who knows how pitching philosophies will change in the future. Some free-thinking manager could experiment with not relying so much on the bullpen, win a championship along the way & change the complexity of the game.

...or there could be a current 10-year-old freak of nature developing right now that none of us know about.

No, Randy Johnson will not be the last 300-game winner


FYI: Active leaders with less than 300 wins:

Jamie Moyer, 258
Andy Pettitte, 229
Pedro Martinez, 219
John Smoltz, 213
Tim Wakefield, 189
Livan Hernandez, 156
Kevin Millwood, 155
Bartolo Colon, 153
Roy Halladay, 148
Mike Hampton, 148
Tim Hudson, 148

I tend to agree with you.......he probably won't be the last one. But I think it may be a while before another pitcher reaches 300 for several reasons.


1. Tom Glavine and Randy both pitched when a 4 man rotaion was common. That just isn't the case today. Most teams have a 5 man rotation today. Over a 15 year career......this could account for over 100 less starts with a 5 man rotation.

2. Newer MLB stadiums tend to allow more homers with shorter foul lines.

3. MLB Umpires have gone to a very tight strike zone. (The days of Glavine and Maddux getting that knee high outside pitch 1" off the plate are over)

4. Like you said.......managers tend to go the bull pen more these days.......making it harder to get that 6 inning win. I have seen a lot of leads lost by the bull pens in recent years.

Halladay and Hudson may have a chance out of that group you listed. I think the rest of them are too old now.

I don't think Halladay has a chance, he's getting older, he can probably get 250-270 no problem.

Most guys, with several exceptions of course, don't break into the big leagues until they're 24-26 nowadays. Age when pitchers start their career hurts their chances as much as how old they are when they retire.

^ Halladay will turn 33 on May 14th ... he would have to average no less than 15 wins over the next 10 years !

Tim Hudson is 34 ??? I would have guessed much younger!