THSfanatic
Nov 5 2009, 11:34 PM
Hello TO haters. Roy Williams whining that he is the #1 receiver and should be getting more catches.
TO never said anything this inflammatory.
Are the same people that hated TO gonna call for his head now?
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/11/04/roy-wil...iver-in-dallas/
KirtFalcon
Nov 6 2009, 06:07 AM
I said when they traded for Roy Williams it was a waste of a 1st round draft choice. Looks like I was right!
mavs2007
Nov 6 2009, 07:17 AM
Roy Williams is just terrible
spacegolfer
Nov 6 2009, 07:33 AM
QUOTE (THSfanatic @ Nov 6 2009, 12:34 AM)

Hello TO haters. Roy Williams whining that he is the #1 receiver and should be getting more catches.
TO never said anything this inflammatory.
Are the same people that hated TO gonna call for his head now?
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/11/04/roy-wil...iver-in-dallas/I saw part of an interview while I was in Chicago. It looks to me that the media is trying to do the very same thing to Roy Williams as they did to T. O. ... The interview Roy was not really complaining. He was just pointing out how odd it is all working out. From his perspective it was more of they were all perplexed as to why they can't connect. He was in no way complaining about Romo. They know it's more a mental problem and will be worked out.
Yes he was putting the numbers out there but, it was just matter of factly pointing out ironics of the whole thing. No whining involved.
The media is still trying to stir up stuff and break the Cowboys down. Anything to get their new york gnats an opening.
BayouBengal
Nov 6 2009, 09:36 AM
Yes, get rid of him too.
HitEmHarder
Nov 6 2009, 10:57 AM
Williams - has trouble running routes - I've yet to see him block for other runners downfield - dropped passes - he needs some serious work.
THSfanatic
Nov 6 2009, 12:40 PM
QUOTE (HitEmHarder @ Nov 6 2009, 11:57 AM)

- I've yet to see him block for other runners downfield -
Actually that's a part of his game I'm happy with. I've seen him hustling to block downfield. Unfortunately that's not why he was brought here & paid dearly for.
clawsnstripes
Nov 6 2009, 03:55 PM
we got a new t.o. without the production. of course i didn't want to get rid of the old one.
HitEmHarder
Nov 6 2009, 04:36 PM
QUOTE (THSfanatic @ Nov 6 2009, 12:40 PM)

Actually that's a part of his game I'm happy with. I've seen him hustling to block downfield. Unfortunately that's not why he was brought here & paid dearly for.
I have also seen him sidestep defenders that went on to make tackles. But I guess there are many WR that do the sidestep...
geauxtiger3
Nov 6 2009, 04:37 PM
TO might have been a major distraction but at least he made some plays and scored TD's.
goldandwhite
Nov 6 2009, 04:54 PM
I'm still glad T.O. is gone, even if Roy Williams hasn't lived up to his trade price.
goldandwhite
Nov 6 2009, 04:59 PM
I'm still glad T.O. is gone, even if Roy Williams hasn't lived up to his trade price. The Cowboys were 4-3 at this time last year, and are 5-2 without him this year.
Straw
Nov 6 2009, 05:27 PM
QUOTE (goldandwhite @ Nov 6 2009, 06:59 PM)

I'm still glad T.O. is gone, even if Roy Williams hasn't lived up to his trade price. The Cowboys were 4-3 at this time last year, and are 5-2 without him this year.
Amen
THSfanatic
Nov 6 2009, 06:26 PM
QUOTE (goldandwhite @ Nov 6 2009, 05:59 PM)

. The Cowboys were 4-3 at this time last year, and are 5-2 without him this year.
Hardly a direct correlation there.
I really don't care if TO is here or not. I just want production. Just seems to be a different level of animosity towards TO.
spacegolfer
Nov 6 2009, 07:24 PM
The good thing is we have enough weapons offensively that we are still moving the ball without the Romo/Williams connection.
DaveTV1
Nov 6 2009, 07:58 PM
Roy Williams needs to know that he' the #2 now. If he could get open or catch some passes, then he wouldn't have a complaint. Maybe Roy needs to know that he will never be a #1 reciever in the N.F.L., and accept his role on the team.
THSfanatic
Nov 6 2009, 08:26 PM
QUOTE (DaveTV1 @ Nov 6 2009, 08:58 PM)

Roy Williams needs to know that he' the #2 now.
Even that is debatable
DaveTV1
Nov 6 2009, 10:25 PM
QUOTE (THSfanatic @ Nov 6 2009, 08:26 PM)

Even that is debatable
When has he ever been the go to guy, except at UT ?
HitEmHarder
Nov 6 2009, 11:32 PM
Good point.
USNDocOfMarines
Nov 6 2009, 11:45 PM
Yes he complained that he wasn't get thrown to enought, but it wasn't the end of the world to him like in the case with TO. After complaining he did go on to say that as long as the Cowboys were winning he didn't mind.
JV_COACH
Nov 7 2009, 03:49 PM
QUOTE (THSfanatic @ Nov 6 2009, 06:26 PM)

Hardly a direct correlation there.
I really don't care if TO is here or not. I just want production. Just seems to be a different level of animosity towards TO.
The other wr are producing and the offense is being productive which is more then what we could say when we had t.o. last year.
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So to all the UT fans who did not understand why yall could never win the big games/ beat okie/ maybe it had do something to do with the type of "star" athlete yall had back then.
Tatum_DirtyBird
Nov 7 2009, 07:14 PM
My starting recievers would be
1 Miles Austin
2 Patrick Crayton
3 Sam Hurd
WETSU
Nov 7 2009, 08:48 PM
trade Williams for draft pick. It can even be a 3rd or 4th rounder... Cowboys would get more production out the player they pick for probably a fourth of the money and millionth of the complaining.
Tatum_DirtyBird
Nov 7 2009, 10:10 PM
QUOTE (WETSU @ Nov 7 2009, 08:48 PM)

trade Williams for draft pick. It can even be a 3rd or 4th rounder... Cowboys would get more production out the player they pick for probably a fourth of the money and millionth of the complaining.

Seems like the best recievers come in the late rounds anyway.
WETSU
Nov 7 2009, 10:14 PM
QUOTE (Tatum_DirtyBird @ Nov 7 2009, 10:10 PM)

Seems like the best recievers come in the late rounds anyway.
yea...but if you ask Williams he will say instead of drafting someone the boys should let romo just pick one he will try to throw perfect #### to lol
WETSU
Nov 7 2009, 10:17 PM
QUOTE (Tatum_DirtyBird @ Nov 7 2009, 10:10 PM)

Seems like the best recievers come in the late rounds anyway.
Also WR is one of those spots where a good qb can make mediocre players look good. Most teams will use their higher picks on every spot but this most of the time because when there are 3-4 on the field at a time and their routes compliment each other anyways so you dont have to have a dominate player to be successful if the routes are run crisp and guys give effort. Thats the only reason why Austin makes plays and Williams doesnt. Effort.
THSfanatic
Nov 8 2009, 12:05 AM
QUOTE (WETSU @ Nov 7 2009, 10:14 PM)

yea...but if you ask Williams he will say instead of drafting someone the boys should let romo just pick one he will try to throw perfect #### to lol
That was one of the strangest comments I've ever heard from a football player
spacegolfer
Nov 8 2009, 09:40 AM
QUOTE (THSfanatic @ Nov 8 2009, 01:05 AM)

That was one of the strangest comments I've ever heard from a football player
I believe he was using sarcasm with that.

Roy will be okay and Romo will find him more often. We just need to spread the ball around. That is where we'll be most effective moving the ball.
DaveTV1
Nov 8 2009, 08:57 PM
We don't have a touchdown, because Romo, Wade, and Jason are trying to appease him. Get rid of Roy Williams. He's had two good catches tonight, but he's still a #2.
CoachBennett
Nov 8 2009, 09:07 PM
QUOTE (DaveTV1 @ Nov 8 2009, 08:57 PM)

We don't have a touchdown, because Romo, Wade, and Jason are trying to appease him. Get rid of Roy Williams. He's had two good catches tonight, but he's still a #2.
How are they trying to appease him?
THSfanatic
Nov 8 2009, 09:30 PM
Why are you throwing slants to a tall "go up & get it" type of receiver?
Sure they are trying to appease him.
DaveTV1
Nov 8 2009, 10:05 PM
QUOTE (CoachBennett @ Nov 8 2009, 09:07 PM)

How are they trying to appease him?
They've thrown more footballs Roys way tonight, than any other game. Saying footballs doesn't sound right, prude censor.
What did Roy Williams just do ????????
spacegolfer
Nov 8 2009, 10:33 PM
QUOTE (THSfanatic @ Nov 8 2009, 10:30 PM)

Why are you throwing slants to a tall "go up & get it" type of receiver?
Sure they are trying to appease him.
Actually slants are a great play for Roy. Michael Irvin perfected that play. In the past games it looked like Romo missed him on the square ins and now he seems to be making connections on the slants. Do whatever works. Romo doesn't seem to have the right touch for jump passes to me.
imyahuckleberry
Nov 9 2009, 08:04 AM
Personally I thought Roy Williams had one of his better game last night. Yes, there is alot of room for improvement.
He may have had six just before the half if Samuel hadn't held his arm.
I'll take a win in Philly anyday.
Coach0001
Nov 9 2009, 08:41 AM
He and Romo still are not on same page
Romo missed him badly in the end zone at end of the half for a TD
but they did seem to improve their cohesiveness from where it had been
85lobo
Nov 9 2009, 10:04 AM
Romo and Roy are going to be fine. You Roy Williams haters are the same ones that bash the Horns in the college thread.
Romo even stated yesterday in his post game interview why he and Williams are having a hard time connecting and why he and Austin aren't. Maybe ya'll didn't hear it. Romo and Austin have been together for 4 years. Romo and Williams less than 1 full year. I think they will eventually get on the same page. If not, then you have to move on and try something else.
WETSU
Nov 9 2009, 10:18 AM
QUOTE (85lobo @ Nov 9 2009, 10:04 AM)

Romo and Roy are going to be fine. You Roy Williams haters are the same ones that bash the Horns in the college thread.
Romo even stated yesterday in his post game interview why he and Williams are having a hard time connecting and why he and Austin aren't. Maybe ya'll didn't hear it. Romo and Austin have been together for 4 years. Romo and Williams less than 1 full year. I think they will eventually get on the same page. If not, then you have to move on and try something else.
Man your way off base with that... Where Williams played college has nothing to do with why he is not being productive right now and why people are mad about it. Personally i dont care what he does on the field as long as the cowboys win. I just got a little mad to see him on tv complaining when your team is on a win streak and playing for the division lead.
HitEmHarder
Nov 9 2009, 01:03 PM
QUOTE (WETSU @ Nov 9 2009, 10:18 AM)

Man your way off base with that... Where Williams played college has nothing to do with why he is not being productive right now and why people are mad about it. Personally i dont care what he does on the field as long as the cowboys win. I just got a little mad to see him on tv complaining when your team is on a win streak and playing for the division lead.
Exactly!
THSfanatic
Nov 9 2009, 01:31 PM
QUOTE (85lobo @ Nov 9 2009, 10:04 AM)

Romo and Roy are going to be fine. You Roy Williams haters are the same ones that bash the Horns in the college thread.
Romo even stated yesterday in his post game interview why he and Williams are having a hard time connecting and why he and Austin aren't. Maybe ya'll didn't hear it. Romo and Austin have been together for 4 years. Romo and Williams less than 1 full year. I think they will eventually get on the same page. If not, then you have to move on and try something else.
You are so wrong about this. I am a BIG Longhorn fan. I like Roy Williams. However, I said when the Cowboys got him that we WAY overpaid & he is not a legit #1 receiver. I've seen absolutey nothing but vindication for what I said before.
USNDocOfMarines
Nov 9 2009, 04:17 PM
I was very excited when Roy came to Dallas, because I was such a big fan of his during his time at Texas, but he hasn't lived up to the expectations. Hes not terrible, but he really needs to improve. Give it time, I think Williams and Romo will get it right, just hopefully sooner than later. However, in the mean time, Miles Austin is the #1 man.
spacegolfer
Nov 9 2009, 08:01 PM
Who cares about who is #1? They are going to be on the field anyway and it doesn't matter a hill of beans. Romo should be throwing to the open receiver anyway. Roy is a very good receiver and that is exactly what we need. We had an elite receiver in T. O.. The media screwed that up for us.
DaveTV1
Nov 9 2009, 09:25 PM
QUOTE (85lobo @ Nov 9 2009, 10:04 AM)

Romo and Roy are going to be fine. You Roy Williams haters are the same ones that bash the Horns in the college thread.
Romo even stated yesterday in his post game interview why he and Williams are having a hard time connecting and why he and Austin aren't. Maybe ya'll didn't hear it. Romo and Austin have been together for 4 years. Romo and Williams less than 1 full year. I think they will eventually get on the same page. If not, then you have to move on and try something else.
I'm not a Roy Williams hater. I hate that he's playing for Cincinnati now. The Roy Williams from Detroit isn't showing me much, except a limp wrist first down, when he gets one. Mike Renfro and Butch "California Quake" Johnson had better hands than this guy.
THSfanatic
Nov 9 2009, 10:55 PM
QUOTE (spacegolfer @ Nov 9 2009, 08:01 PM)

Who cares about who is #1?
I know what you're saying, but when you give up 3 picks including a #1 you expect a #1 receiver.
I agree it doesn't matter at this point because we already have him. We also have Bobby Carpenter who we overpaid for. But every team has players that aren't playing to the potential they paid for. I just happen to think you could more or less see this one coming.
badblackcat
Nov 10 2009, 07:57 AM
QUOTE (THSfanatic @ Nov 9 2009, 10:55 PM)

I know what you're saying, but when you give up 3 picks including a #1 you expect a #1 receiver.
I agree it doesn't matter at this point because we already have him. We also have Bobby Carpenter who we overpaid for. But every team has players that aren't playing to the potential they paid for. I just happen to think you could more or less see this one coming.
I just want to ask, have you seen what Carp has been doing the last few weeks?
When Dallas goes nickel, he's shut down Tony Gonzalez, John Carlson, and Brent Celek. He may have a specialized role, but he's doing a helluva job at it.
spacegolfer
Nov 10 2009, 09:27 AM
QUOTE (THSfanatic @ Nov 9 2009, 11:55 PM)

I know what you're saying, but when you give up 3 picks including a #1 you expect a #1 receiver.
I agree it doesn't matter at this point because we already have him. We also have Bobby Carpenter who we overpaid for. But every team has players that aren't playing to the potential they paid for. I just happen to think you could more or less see this one coming.
I guess I'm a little more patient than you. I think Roy will be okay with Dallas. We did trade for a starter and I think he is a legitimate one. Receivers can have great stats with one QB and not another one. Both players can be #1 in their own right. It doesn't mean that the two will produce great stats together. I fault Romo as much as Roy on the problems they have. Romo does throw some very bad passes his way.
Bobby Carpenter to me has just been a backup since being with Dallas. This year has been very different. He has been utilized in a much better role for him and has been very productive. This year has been a success as far as Carpenter is concerned. Teams have gone to specialty players for different things. This is done through out the league. At least this year I like what I see in Bobby Carpenter.
I have always disagreed with what they pay players anyway. With the amount of money slung around on the so-called stars is ridiculous. Then you have someone with 1 good season and they break the bank. It is ludicrous to see players turn down offers of 20 million because they feel they should be 40 million or so and so makes more. They complain because their families have to eat!!! It's not enough. One thing is for sure. There are plenty of players that get paid "millions" more than Roy Williams or Bobby Carpenter and are nearly as talented.
DaveTV1
Nov 15 2009, 04:25 PM
If he could hold onto the ball, maybe he would have something to complain about. He is only slightly better than Charles Rodgers.
Roughriders04
Nov 15 2009, 04:40 PM
QUOTE (DaveTV1 @ Nov 15 2009, 11:25 PM)

If he could hold onto the ball, maybe he would have something to complain about. He is only slightly better than Charles Rodgers.
I think any reciever could have had the ball stripped in that situation....defender coming out of no where on that play....
GreezyChef
Nov 15 2009, 05:14 PM
nice drop there ROY !!!! woo wee. this guy is AWESOME!!!
Coach0001
Nov 15 2009, 05:16 PM
alligator arms
GreezyChef
Nov 15 2009, 05:19 PM
QUOTE (Coach0001 @ Nov 15 2009, 05:16 PM)

alligator arms
call it what you want he just made himself look like a doofus on that one.
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