For all the Aggies clamoring about Johnson's stats compared to McCoy and want him to be All-Conference. I said earlier let's let the season play out. Well, today against a bad Colorado team and the game on the line with A&M needing only a fg to win he throws a bad pick. Overall stats are 20 of 36 for 242 yds. with 1 TD and 1 INT with the game on the line. A very nice 6.7 yds per completion. So much for all that throwing down the field and criticizing McCoy for not. His stats today were 33 of 42 for 470 yds. with 2 TD and 1 int and a 11.2 yds per completion. You just don't lose by 50 to K-State and lose to Colorado by any margin and get named 1st team All-Conference.

Colt McCoy is the greatest QB in the land. Jerrod Johnson shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as him. Happy now? Way to go big guy!

I listened to Jerrod's post-game interview; he's a classy guy.

look at Colts stats against CU and tell me what you think... Ill give you a hint...

Colt against CU -265 yards 1 td 1 int
Johnson against CU 242 yards 1td 1int

Not too much better...Colts D and special teams bailed him out...

yea colts stats were huge today. Against UCF. When Johnson put up huge numbers against nobodys it was the fact they were weak. Why dont people just admit that Johnson is a good QB. Nobody doubts Colt. But if Johnson had that D his team would be just as good...Probably better. I take A&Ms offense over Texas this season anyday... The Defenses is what makes them two completely different teams.

I don't think anybody was trying to say the Johnson is better than McCoy. They were just saying no matter how McCoy plays he is going to win the 1st team spot.

Agreed...Just like the Heisman race. Colt and Tebow should not even be in top 3 with the way the Keenum, Ingram, and Moore have played. But one of them will win it...

I think that Mccoy just sowed up his Heisman trophy today.

UCF has the top defense in their conference, and mccoy shredded it all day against a decent defense.

Yea, compare the Colorado games. The biggest difference is Colt's team won by 26 points as he managed the game well. Johnson's team lost as he threw his pick with the game on the line and a chance to win. You can have A&M's offense and see what happens when they play Texas. Texas leads the nation in scoring so I am not sure why you would want the aggies offense. Each to his own. If Johnson struggled against Colorado wait unitl he faces the Texas defense. I can't wait for Colt to face the A&M defense. Cheers!

I'm going to guess this is a post from a disgruntled Aggie that is upset his team just lost a game that they should have won. Otherwise, I think you have lost credibility. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being biased toward your team, but you're talking crazy now. That's like me saying I'll take UT's offense when Peter Gardere was QB over today's offense because he went 4-0 against Oklahoma.

By the way UCF is one of the top defenses against the rush, but they are terrible against the pass. That's why Colt threw for the yards he did. Look for Keenan from Houston to throw for more than Colt when the Cougars play UCF because that is what they do. I guess you can come back and compare the numbers with Colt after that game.

Your passive-aggressiveness is getting tiresome. Man up and admit you hate the Longhorns and wish Colt would tear his ACL in practice this week. It would be nice for Colt to win the Heisman, but he hasn't earned it yet... if he continues to play the next 3-4 games like he has lately, he has a good shot. And this is how it works every year. There are always front runners from the previous year. Frankly I wish they would wait and vote until all the games were over. Texas would have one more Heisman trophy - Vince Young!

You've said Johnson was a better QB in another thread when you were crying about the heisman and 1st team All Big 12. Man up, you're boy Johnson choked and so did the team, again. Colt is BY FAR the top QB in the conference and quite possibly the country. Deal with it.

I don't recall saying anything of the sort.

Like ive said all season...I would like to see what Texas Offense could do against Texas Defense. They would end up just like everyone else. The Texas D is amazing this season. As for the leading scoring team in the nation...They average over 10 points a game this season off defensive and special teams touchdowns. Thats why the scoring offense is so high. They are only averaging 5 more points a game than A&M and A&M has crappy special teams and defense. A&M is the only team in the top 25 nationaly in yards per game, points per game, passing yards per game, and rushing yards per game. Since they are the ONLY team in the country with those stats id say their offense is fairly good. Defense is a whole different story.

To you Lhornfan... Your post is simply wrong about me. I think Texas is playing like the best team in the country. I think Colt is very good but so far this season does not deserve the hype he has gotten and you admit to that. They only thing i have said against him is that i think his teams record is the only reason he is in the talk for Heisman...He is a very good QB. Texas is a great team right now. I am an aggie fan but i am not foolish enough to admit that Texas and mccoy are not doing excellent this season. I simply have defended my case that Johnson and the Aggies are not a scrub team. Even with this loss i still think they are a solid team this season. They are young...It happens. I dont want you to get things twisted. I give respect where credit is due but when others decide to let their follishness get the better of them i will defend my thoughts and the team i support,TAMU. I will continue to say that Johnson is underratted and that the Aggies are getting better. You cannot expect things to change in one season with all those freshman and sophmores playing...But for Texas fans who want to act like A&M is the worst team to ever play in the big 12 i have to just point out the stat books and trophy rooms of the two throughout the last few years and with the exception of 05 they are very much alike...One big12 title apeice. A&M 2 of the last 3. IF they are the scrubs people think than how is this possible?

Sorry about that Val. I just went back and looked at the other thread. It was someone else, my bad.

I did not say anything like that. I just looked through the whole thread. The only post that I put in that thread is on the top of page 2, and all I said was that Ryan Broyles #85 from Oklahoma should be 1st team Big 12 and a few of the defensive lineman from Oklahoma might be.

Get your facts right before you call me out.

You might want to do a little more research.

And let's look at the big picture regarding the BIG XII.
Overall Record
UT 85-24 regular season BIG XII games (2-2 BIG XII CHAMPIONSHIP)
A&M 60-52 regular season BIG XII games (1-1 BIG XII CHAMPIONSHIP)

Last 5 Years
UT 31-6 regular season BIG XII games (1-0 BIG XII CHAMPIONSHIP)
A&M 16-21 regualr season BIG XII games

This Year
UT 5-0
A&M 2-3

A piece of irony - the A&M special teams you bad mouth had a 90+ kickoff return for a TD today.

Sorry about that...i was mistaken about who won the 96 game vs nebraska. Yea they have 2 big 12 titles.

I still think you are missing the point...I am defending the A&M program...Not dogging Texas. Go back and look at any post i have and any time i compare A&M to Texas at all its because someone has compared the two first. You know it is possible for A&M fans to discuss their team without someone from Texas jumping on and bashing them. I mean after all this tread was started by a Texas fan...I jsut think that for a team that Texas fans consider inferior they compare themselves to what A&M does in everything they do. How many times do you see someone get on here and make a post about the Texas D bailing out mccoy or something like that...Thats happened about 3 times this year " OU TECH AND CU" but you dont see an Aggie opening up a tread discrediting the Longhorns or Mccoy. I may throw my shots in from time to time but i dont start it...I jsut like to throw my two cents in when someone else is bashing team i support.

thats also why you may find me passive aggressive...thats because I am a logical fan. Not a homer...

I'll just take your word for it. I will say though, scheduling has something to do with it. Jerrod is a good QB that has played a weaker schedule, and I think he would do well if he where wearing burnt orange, but he does not have the leadership skills as Colt; not yet... and that is a big reason Colt and Tebow get praises from the sports announcers. They (the pros) see when a team is struggling and how a good leader fights through the adversity to still get the win. Look at UT's only loss last year - Colt drives the offense down for a TD to win the game only to see it slip through Gideon's hands. This was the same position JJ was in today, was it not? He threw an off balance pick that all but sealed the game for Colorado. Things happen and it always doesn't go as planned. I appreciate his comments after the game.

Does it help to have one of the best defenses in the country? You bet it does, but this does not help Colt statistically. It only helps in the win column, and in the end that is the stat that is Colt's ultimate goal.

Actually A&M won the Big 12 title in 1998.

No doubt Colt is far ahead of JJ in the poise late category...That is an experience thing as well. Colt has been around and has won games. But i will say that Colt has many more starts so thats expected. JJ has not really been a part of a team that "finds ways to win" so i dont see it unreasonable for him to try to do a little too much. But you are right about him being a man in the postgame speaches. I think him and the young offense will be more prepared for this situation next season. I think they are going to be very good on the offensive side.

Colt gets wins and thats all that matters...I agree. But not when it comes to Heisman and allbig 12 honors. Thats the only point i have tried to make in these treads. I say give it Shipley. See my post on the UT/UCF game...Shipley is the best player on Texas IMO. Kids a beast

Lot of talk about Colt's short passing game. Suggest you watch his film to discover he can throw the deep ball or the 20 yarder as well as anyone. Or just watch today's game. The 88 yard TD to Shipley hit a 4.3 sprinter on a full gallop 40-50 yards down the field. And like he always does, he throws a rope between defenders to gain 25-30 yards. Colt can flat out sling it.

That was a nice throw...I think when you look at his percentage though is where people come up with those statements. The numbers have not lied. He really is only like 30 something% on 10+ yards. I dont really think it matters much as long as you cant stop Shipley from getting you into 3rd and 2 or even getting into 3rd downs at all lol. The main talk was people saying that his overall completion percentage was high because of shorter throws... Not that he can never throw a good deep ball.

I call bull ###. If all you have to go by is that mistake that Todd McShay spouted you are misled. i would like to see a link to where your info is coming from.

I dont even know if that stat is real lol I am just calling that off of what mcshay said. I dont know his numbers...It may not be that low. He is not one of the top deep throws in the country though. That much is apparent. I watched alot of missed throws throughout the season. It may be wrong...But i know Mcshay also loves colt for the Heisman. I cant see him saying that if he thiks Colt is a top 3 Heisman candidate. Not to mention i dont see ESPN letting that air if it werent true...Those guys make a living off stats lol

Link?

I saw three deep #### by Colt today. One was a strike for a score. one the defensive back made a great play on the ball and had M. Williams reached for it with his hands instead of letting it hit him the chest it would've been another TD. The other one Colt didn't put enough air under it and the defensive back, who Kirkendall had beaten, cut across and picked it off. He is effective throwing the deep ball.

I didn't know you should take ESPN as the gospel truth. They have been wrong many times before.

Im not sure i get what you are saying...So are you saying he completed one of the three? I am not being a smart*** but i seriously dont get it. If i think i am getting it he completed one, underthrew one, and had a db make a good play on one. If thats right that means he was one for three. Thus 30 something %. Once again i didnt say he never throws a good one. Just not as effectivly as others. Thats not all him. The playbook doesnt allow him to get in sync to make throws like that all the time.

Yes only one of three was completed, but he hit two of them in stride. The other would've hit the reciever in stride he just didn't put enough air under it and the db cut it off for the pick. I am saying when he does go deep he is accurate. I don't think it is the playbook, but the playcalling. Alot of times Davis falls right into the hands of the opposing Defense. Take the OU and the Okie State games. They were dropping 7-8 into coverage. Texas should have been running the ball or using the QB draw more. Davis just kept calling for pass plays and if it weren't for Colt's accuracy the zone defense would've eaten them up. That is why there isn't much deep passing in the Texas offense, but don't think Colt isn't accurate downfield.

Fair enough. I agree with that... But a deep ball that doesnt have enough air and get picks off is still a bad throw lol jk. But i agree with the statement about the zone. If Davis would ever let Colt do what he did the last three years in running the zone read and actually having a option they would be much better. Its like it has turned into a straight give now. Also what is so wrong with getting in a traditional I formation and letting your big back bang up the defense up a little every now and then

In all honesty, 33% isn't bad when throwing the deep ball. I think UT puts too much emphasis on the short game to Shipley at times. He's a great WR that could be used as a decoy as well to open up the intermediate passing attack. Send Jordan deep down the middle of the field and he's liable to be double covered. If not, I'd throw it... chances are Jordan will catch it.

I couldnt complete 33% lol. But i think the best football is played between the tackles 3 yards at a time.

Lining up in the I is a personel problem for Texas. With 3 receivers in the game you don't have a fullback. They have to bring on a different package in to do so. when they do that the defense substitutes as well. I say use Fozzy for a series and use Johnson for a series. However they need to let Johnson run the ball between the tackles. Colt just needs to pull the ball on the zone read if Davis tells him to give it. I have seen several times this year that he could've have coasted to a first down.

Thats one of the plays mack is holding back lol jk. But it is wide open alot. I think they are protecting colt alot this year though

All it would take was just doing it every now and then. Just put the thought in the defense's mind that he may pull it and go. They know he isn't keeping it. Protecting or not, it hurts the offense.

The aggie fan in me wants them to keep the offense as bad as possible lol. But the good football fan in me wants to see the team be the best they can be so we can see a big 12 team beat the hell out of a sec team lol

If Texas does in fact win the MNC game I hope the folks there don't start chanting Big-12 Big-12. That's what the mediocre SEC teams do when the 2-3 good teams win big games.

yea thats weak. I mean in reality nobody but Texas could hang with Bama Florida or LSU. To be honest i think Tennessee would even be the second best team in the big 12 lol. Even Arkansas would be in the hunt i think lol. The big 12 is down big time. That makes me wonder if Texas will be prepared enough to see Bama or Florida in the MNC.

Now hold on there, I still think the media is going to want to give it to Tebow, and Colt hasn't played like a Heisman Trophy winner this year. Of course, Tebow hasn't either. I'll tell you who has: Keenum, Moore, Ingram, Andy Dalton and Jordan Shipley.

i agree with every one of those picks...