Sell out the dead and wounded at Ft. Hood. I dont like Savage, but dont like what the General said. I do understand who his Commander and Chief is, but he has enough years to retire. The guy was a Jihadist and supposedly as the victims at Ft. Hood ran, he would chaser them and fire point blank, and killed one as he shielded his bud. Sell Out. Diversity kills. and this guy nixed the troop surge? Only thing he needs to know is that the mission is to close with the enemy and kill him. Dont need much else direction.

this general needs to be court martialed......what an idiot......is it any wonder we can't get much done in Afghanistan with generals like this loon advising the head muslim, chancellor hussein........

And if the guy had a pair, he would nix the PC. Am hearing the jihadist killer of innocents will be tried in Military court. Now if they gave him to Texas, we would know what to do. This General will probally put him back in the Army because we need diversity. Just like a gutless School Supertindent who is a yes man for certain members of the board, this guy should move over and let Jr officers and NCOs run the Army. If the this #### goes on, this will be just like Nam, where the boys and country lost their will to serve because doing so meant nothing but bad things.

You can do the right thing or you can futher your job.

I respectfully disagree with the General, while refusing to denigrate him personally.

With all the PC stuff going on... here's the deal, and I totally agree with one commentator on Fox News today... well, if they didn't want us to think or say all this stuff, they're the ones feeding us the info... SO TRUE! So it's just enough to say... now, wait a minute... he may not be, but he might have ties to Al Queda... well, gee whiz......

However, as far as Snot Breath if he so much as "breathes" the word TERRORIST, citizens are liable to get awfully nasty real quick... although I suggest to Snot Breath that WE'RE ALREADY PO'D! We're not stupid, some of his "followers" may be, but we're not!

It's in an effort to "callllmmmmm the hysteria"... TOO LATE!

P.S.: Keeping up with Fivehead.. (like that'll never happen)... Snot Breath is no one on this forum, BTW!

General Casey has a much higher level of responsibility than anyone commenting here. You can righteously label his words as being PC, but we all know that we would not respect him as a soldier if he lowered himself to the level of commentary that is coming from the media outlets.
As inflammatory as it can seem, he is also correct. While the visible strength of an army is it's unity of purpose, the source of that strength comes from the varied backgrounds and experiences that have been melded into that unified force. If the General, by his words, were to suggest that the military would be better if everyone had the same cookie cutter background, ethnicity, and experience, he would be inciting mass mutiny.

Why stop at Muslims, why not exclude Methodists, and Mormons?

Yes we are all afraid. But why not seek our commonality instead of our differences?

I lost cousins, I lost a lot in that deal. And I did not run.

^Sorry for the vent.

Do you not see the differences between a methodist, morman and a muslim?

In case you do not know the difference I will help you. It is the religion of Islam that wants the world to live by sharia law. It is the Religion of Islam that says the only way one can see paradise is to die a marters death in Jihad. It be the muslims who are waging a war of terror around the world.

Because Methodists and Mormons don't go around blowing themselves and everyone else up.....Methodists and Mormons aren't mass murderers......

there will be those who want to split hairs with you, but I totally agree!

check out Muslim response sorry I cant paste like you guys, but scroll down to the Uncle Sam?? figure

DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!

Typical responses from those who adhere to the "religion of peace"......

OldSchool, I posted this on another site... and this is what one mom said.... thought it made a lot of sense!

"As a nation we are going to get what we have asked for. The leaders in our country want to sit and sing KUMBAYA with Islam. In September our President put two DEVOUT MUSLIMS (their wording, not mine) over critical roles in the Department of Homeland Security. http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_s...6/obama-appoi... They will agree to sing with us, all the while slaughtering our citizens any time they can, then they will rejoice in those killings, but sit down and sing KUMBAYA with us when the pressure is on. If our leaders won't educate themselves about Islam, at least it's citizens should. Don't be fooled by the MSM rhetoric about peace and safety from Islam, that is a cover up.

ANY religion who's very foundations and precepts go against the US Constitution should not be identified as peaceful by this country. They should be called what they are, an enemy to the US and as such treated as hostile by our authorities.

Here is my analogy:
I am walking down the street with my three year old daughter, out from a yard runs a rabid dog. He is lunging at my daughter and biting her on the arms and legs and he has her on the sidewalk tearing her to shreds. As a mom, I dig into that dog, I pull him off, I use everything within me to protect her and to destroy the dog.

If I am like our government, I try to convince all the people gathering around that the dog is misunderstood, he has sufferend from some disorder, he really wants to be peaceful if we would just stop inciting him. In fact, what I could do to stop him from killing my child is just get some more rabid dogs to walk up and down the sidewalk and if more of them are in the public light than they will all behave. Out comes the veterinarian to tell us ALL that the dog it too far gone and that rabies can't be cured once it has destroyed the dogs brain, that it is more merciful to put him to sleep. Suddenly, the leaders start telling the people that the vet does not know what he is talking about, he is just hateful, a racist and he should be minimalized and locked up. Does this sound familiar?

I don't care what the government does or our leaders, I am gonna protect my child from the rabid dog, with all that is within me. Nothing PC about this sotry."

Just look at how Muslims rule with terror in European countries, and it all started with political correctness.

Fortunately, as a citizen, you have a right to have and express an opinion such as you have. I insist though that it is based on emotion rather than fact. Morman historians will tell you that the Methodists and other Protestants have indeed been the extremists in this nation before any American ever heard of jihad. You see your thinking is inherited from a segment of the populace who indeed tried to exclude Mormans from the national landscape.

Your rhetoric is building on a level of distrust that makes it dangerous for all. We as a nation are not virgins at this. We put the Japanese in concentration camps, when we were unsure of whose side that they were on. We didn't dare let black soldiers serve with whites for enumerable barbaric reasons. So your logic is predictable.

I won't end this with a chorus of Kumbaya, but I will suggest a song from the mid 70's that accurately describes your hatred. It was called "One Tin Soldier"

"Peace on Earth, Good Will to Men"

I respectfully disagree in the strongest terms. Without impugning your character or referring to you personally in any form whatsoever, I must ask: Are you freaking kidding me? Methodist terrorists? Really? That sounds like something that someone (not you) who is a brain damaged drooling knuckle dragging mongoloid might say. A person (not you) would have to have a single digit IQ to have a series of thoughts that vapid and idiotic and not keep them to one's (not your) self for fear of being put apart from society in a mental institution.

I say this with all due respect for you personally, but with total contempt for this and every other word you have ever posted.

Name that Morman Historian. I have read lots of Mormon and had a guy try to convert me. Never did he say Methodists were terrorists.

Could this be a case of selective memory of real American history. Do you think that the Mormons started out in Utah. No the "Normal" American Christians persecuted them in every community that they tried to establish in.

You can deny any knowledge of it, but it won't make it not be true. But I think that we do perish for a lack of knowledge.

Unless we have forgotten what this was all about

You still evaded the question. Heck, we had Cambellites and Baptists shooting each other in Waco.

Pull up a chair, my children, and I will regale you with a tale of American Methodist terrorism.

In the early days of the 19th century, America enjoyed a prosperous agriculture-based economy and an extended period of peace and prosperity. The turmoil of the American Revolution lay in the past, and the War of 1812 was still a year away. Then, one fateful September morning this halcyon period came to a brutal end.

The citizens of rural Pennsylvania were going about their busy day when the flaming Conestoga wagon slammed into the side of Amo's Johnson's general store. As the shocked populace ran to assist, certain that this was just some horrible accident, a second wagon struck the south wall of the livery stable next door. Smoke filled the dirt streets. Livestock scattered and women screamed just as the weakened general store collapsed. Two minutes later, the walls of the livery stable quivered and fell, killing two horses and several chickens.

People in the streets struggled to understand the horrific accident. This, however, was no accident. For there they saw, crawling from the flaming wreckage of Mr. Johnson's store, a tattered smoking Silas Wesley. A Methodist. Mr. Wesley met up with his co-conspirator Francis Asbury, Jr. and the pair attempted to flee the scene. They were subdued by the crowd and taken into custody.

As the days passed, questioning of the pair revealed an elaborate Methodist plot to weaken the fledgling nation with a series of terrorist attacks on silos and windmills to bring agriculture to a screeching halt, thus causing the economy to collapse. Apparently the network of Methodist zealots was directed in their efforts by the infamous Methodist cleric John Wesley IV, who was hiding in a series of caves somewhere in Kentucky.

The young nation would never be the same. Our way of life has been altered forever by these extremists. Even today, one cannot board a wagon in the northeast without a thourough search of his person. We must remain vigilant until the threat of Methodism is eradicated from our shores.

^ Excellent!!

Post of the year to Fivehead

This is what I've been reading : http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/link...Wvdr8WBocxSgNUI

It seems that this muslim had been attending the same mosque as the 9/11 pilots in Virginia. I think there needs to be deeper background checks on our enlisted men. I suppose that would be profiling.

I always thought that was a Quaker plot, not a Methodist plot. You learn something new everyday...

Gee, Uncle Fivehead, tell us now the one about the Native Americans that we had to subdue because they threatened our prosperity and way of life. We really showed them too, huh?

How about we come back to present day; i.e., 2009, and talk about the enemies of American citizens......

Sure we do Red, it's ":r o f l:"

Hmmmm......

I'm not absolutely sure, but I think it MIGHT have been the Government of the United States of America who had their ARMY to subdue the Indians. (notice the total lack of politcal correctness)

I don't really remember reading about large roaming groups of Methodists and Presbyterians slaughtering Indians. (lack of pc, again)

What you say, (not you personally) reveals an enormous lack of both historical knowledge and common sense. I weep for the future.

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Gee, Uncle Fivehead, tell us now the one about the Native Americans that threatened our prosperity and way of life. quote]

I can edit, too. Do you work for the New York Times or CNN?

What about the history of how Muslim leader, William Wilberforce, lobbied his government for years to end the trading of slaves throughout the world....uh, no?

Fivehead... take solace in the fact that I get it, regardless of whether anyone else does, and I appreciate it.

It's always good to hear from someone who's not wearing an Ed Hardy shirt carrying a skateboard under his arm.

Since it obviously has to be explained, the only thing that the Muslims, Mormons, and Methodists, have in common is that you spell them with a capital M. That and the fact that their religous ideology may be different from the accepted "mainstream".

By your reaction, it can be assumed that you think that it is ridiculous to condemn all of any group for what a minority of the whole is guilty of. Yet you claim to be rational in your round 'em up and punish 'em rhetoric. At some point or other, these non-terrorists, have suffered for being different.

Now for those who are Christians and believe in Jesus, you know that the path he taught was to put your love into action for those who despitefully misuse and abuse you. Nowhere does he allow us to use hatred or scorn to save the lives of the rest of the world.

And I don't expect you to GET IT. You have too many people on your list to hate, to hear any thing about how to fix what you complain about.

(Note: I intend in no way to impugn the character or intelligence of the PERSON who posted this mind-numbing drivel.)

I don't think YOU "get it". Muslims are commanded in the Koran (non-PC spelling) to convert the infidels or to KILL THEM.
That's their rule book. It's clearly spelled out for them in Surah 9 verse 5. Our rule book is the Bible. We are clearly told NOT to kill people in Exodus 20, verse 13. Muslims who kill in the name of Allah are merely following the rules. They are promised a life in heaven with 72 virgins. Christians who kill in the name of God are BREAKING the rules. They are promised an eternity in Hell with Ted Kennedy and Michael Jackson.

I don't know if I can make it any simpler than that. If you can't understand that, perhaps the material is over your head. You should check out "The Cat in the Hat" or "Everybody Poops". Maybe those are on your grade level.

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Classic line right there Five. In case one wanted to know what the covered looked like. But why do liberals and progressive think thier poo does not stink? How they have come to the conclusiion that most of America wants to come and pay homage before they flush it is beyond me also?

Everyone Poops
Hardcover English 1st ed.AuthorTarō GomiOriginal titleMinna Unchi
(みんなうんち)TranslatorAmanda Mayer StinchecumIllustratorTarō GomiCover artistTarō Gomi