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geauxtiger3
Seeing Legarrette Blount get reinstated this week.. how on earth can Dez Bryant not get reinstated? Does anyone feel the same about this?
Valhalla
QUOTE (geauxtiger3 @ Nov 9 2009, 09:42 PM) *
Seeing Legarrette Blount get reinstated this week.. how on earth can Dez Bryant not get reinstated? Does anyone feel the same about this?



I agree.
RideUmRough07
TRAVESTY
JV_COACH
dude should never get to play football agian!!!!!
BlackwellSooner
QUOTE (geauxtiger3 @ Nov 9 2009, 09:42 PM) *
Seeing Legarrette Blount get reinstated this week.. how on earth can Dez Bryant not get reinstated? Does anyone feel the same about this?


About Blount: I agree. I thought at the time that the guy's penalty was overly excessive. He has paid a big price for his impulsive act. I have no problem with reinstating him.

About Dez Bryant: I agree... By the same token, if Dez were to be reinstated, why should OU's Balogun not also be reinstated? IMO, both players' transgression(s) were of the trivial sort (Dez lied to the NCAA, whoopee), (Balogun paid, as contrasted to BEING paid, to play semi-professional ball past his 21st birthday - that is, IF you disbelieve the sworn affidavits of the people who said otherwise, which apparently the NCAA did).

My point is, that neither Dez nor Balogun did anything to gain any type of advantage over any other player. Why should either of them have been suspended/declared ineligible in the first place???
Roughriders04
QUOTE (BlackwellSooner @ Nov 10 2009, 08:01 PM) *
About Blount: I agree. I thought at the time that the guy's penalty was overly excessive. He has paid a big price for his impulsive act. I have no problem with reinstating him.

About Dez Bryant: I agree... By the same token, if Dez were to be reinstated, why should OU's Balogun not also be reinstated? IMO, both players' transgression(s) were of the trivial sort (Dez lied to the NCAA, whoopee), (Balogun paid, as contrasted to BEING paid, to play semi-professional ball past his 21st birthday - that is, IF you disbelieve the sworn affidavits of the people who said otherwise, which apparently the NCAA did).

My point is, that neither Dez nor Balogun did anything to gain any type of advantage over any other player. Why should either of them have been suspended/declared ineligible in the first place???


I agree its crazy that blount gets to play again and dez and balogun cant.....
bordertown
QUOTE (geauxtiger3 @ Nov 9 2009, 09:42 PM) *
Seeing Legarrette Blount get reinstated this week.. how on earth can Dez Bryant not get reinstated? Does anyone feel the same about this?


I was glad to see Blount reinstated. He was booted off the team, then allowed to "earn" his way back on the team. Apparently he has done all that was asked of him and LaMichael James may cause him to only see mop up action.

I think the jury is out with Dez. If all of a sudden Deon Sanders is his agent, you will know the NCCA knew something we don't know.
Gus
QUOTE (JV_COACH @ Nov 9 2009, 10:49 PM) *
dude should never get to play football agian!!!!!


I agree... I would never let Blount back on the team...

And Dez... Id help him out the best that I could but thats the NCAA call to let him play or not play... Not the Coach...
CoachBennett
Dez lied to the NCAA..not sure how people keep acting like what he did was not a big deal, but it WAS a huge deal. He was even given a chance at the meeting to go outside, come back in and change his story with no punishment, yet he still lied.


Blount was kicked off by his team not the NCAA, the coach gave him certain things he had to do to ever get back on the field, and apprantly he did just that.
stevosev7
QUOTE (CoachBennett @ Nov 10 2009, 11:40 PM) *
Dez lied to the NCAA..not sure how people keep acting like what he did was not a big deal, but it WAS a huge deal. He was even given a chance at the meeting to go outside, come back in and change his story with no punishment, yet he still lied.


Blount was kicked off by his team not the NCAA, the coach gave him certain things he had to do to ever get back on the field, and apprantly he did just that.

i still feel like, even though he should of told the truth, the ncaa should of never put dez in that situation in the first place...he wasn't doing anything wrong. why did the ncaa poke their nose in it anyway?

i'm ok with blount being reinstated...especially if he has no kind of past record of bad behavior. i just hope they don't put him right on the field immediately.

btw...florida sure could of used brandon spikes saturday night sweatingbullets.gif
CoachBennett
QUOTE (stevosev7 @ Nov 11 2009, 12:00 AM) *
i still feel like, even though he should of told the truth, the ncaa should of never put dez in that situation in the first place...he wasn't doing anything wrong. why did the ncaa poke their nose in it anyway?



I have no problem with the NCAA simply asking him some questions of why he was at a former NFL players house and the rumors are a agent was present as well. What is the NCAA supposed to do? Not investigate when information if given to them?
db1980
QUOTE (stevosev7 @ Nov 11 2009, 12:00 AM) *
i still feel like, even though he should of told the truth, the ncaa should of never put dez in that situation in the first place...he wasn't doing anything wrong. why did the ncaa poke their nose in it anyway?

i'm ok with blount being reinstated...especially if he has no kind of past record of bad behavior. i just hope they don't put him right on the field immediately.

btw...florida sure could of used brandon spikes saturday night sweatingbullets.gif


First and Foremost, the NCAA didn't put him in any situation. HE put himself into that situation. Lots of former pro players mentor college players across the nation. Just like when Earl Campbell tutored Jamaal Charles before his breakout Junior season. However Campbell did it on the campus not in the confines of his home. It was open to the public. Had the meetings with Sanders and Bryant been held on the Oklahoma State campus there would've been no problem at all. The NCAA got involved when they were told it was at Sander's home (red flag) and there might have been an agent involved.


I am okay with Blount being reinstated as well. He was kicked off the team by his coaching staff with stipulations stating he could earn his way back. He has satisfied his coaches in the classroom and through punishments and they feel he has paid for his crime. I have a lot more respect for Chip Kelly than I ever will Urban Meyer. The punch could've broken a jaw, which in time could've healed. Spikes could've permanantly blinded the other young man and he recieved a 1/2 game suspension. I feel what Spikes did to be a slight bit more serious compared to what Blount did. Both were malicious, but I feel Spikes could've caused more permanant damage and was lucky he didn't. Spikes coming back and asking to be suspended for the whole game suspension is a joke at best and all of this shows that the Florida coaching staff and the SEC commissioner have no guts. When Urban Meyer issued that joke of a punishment, the SEC commissioner should've gotten involved. Yet after the statement issued by the commish Clive about the SEC officials being off limits from coaches criticism, the steady dose of bad calls to help the SEC undefeateds, I am not one bit suprised he just stood back and did nothing in this case.
Eaglefootball
QUOTE (db1980 @ Nov 11 2009, 06:52 AM) *
First and Foremost, the NCAA didn't put him in any situation. HE put himself into that situation. Lots of former pro players mentor college players across the nation. Just like when Earl Campbell tutored Jamaal Charles before his breakout Junior season. However Campbell did it on the campus not in the confines of his home. It was open to the public. Had the meetings with Sanders and Bryant been held on the Oklahoma State campus there would've been no problem at all. The NCAA got involved when they were told it was at Sander's home (red flag) and there might have been an agent involved.


I am okay with Blount being reinstated as well. He was kicked off the team by his coaching staff with stipulations stating he could earn his way back. He has satisfied his coaches in the classroom and through punishments and they feel he has paid for his crime. I have a lot more respect for Chip Kelly than I ever will Urban Meyer. The punch could've broken a jaw, which in time could've healed. Spikes could've permanantly blinded the other young man and he recieved a 1/2 game suspension. I feel what Spikes did to be a slight bit more serious compared to what Blount did. Both were malicious, but I feel Spikes could've caused more permanant damage and was lucky he didn't. Spikes coming back and asking to be suspended for the whole game suspension is a joke at best and all of this shows that the Florida coaching staff and the SEC commissioner have no guts. When Urban Meyer issued that joke of a punishment, the SEC commissioner should've gotten involved. Yet after the statement issued by the commish Clive about the SEC officials being off limits from coaches criticism, the steady dose of bad calls to help the SEC undefeateds, I am not one bit suprised he just stood back and did nothing in this case.



I agree. Brandon spikes should be begging for reinstatement right now!! That just adds to the list of why i hope Bama mops the floor with Florida. I really thought better of Urban Meyer until that. As far as Blount goes, im happy he is reinstated. There are punches thrown in a whole lot of games during the play but we dont see it. This just happened to be at the wrong time. lol. It wasnt right by any means but he has paid his dues!
BlackwellSooner
QUOTE (db1980)
I have a lot more respect for Chip Kelly than I ever will Urban Meyer. The punch could've broken a jaw, which in time could've healed. Spikes could've permanantly blinded the other young man and he recieved a 1/2 game suspension. I feel what Spikes did to be a slight bit more serious compared to what Blount did. Both were malicious, but I feel Spikes could've caused more permanant damage and was lucky he didn't.


db, I agree with almost all of your post, except the bolded part above: the word "malicious", in my mind, implies premeditated intent to do damage.
Spikes' action definitely falls into that category; Blount's does not. Blount's punch to the Boise State player's jaw was as a result of a provoked action, and was, to all intents, an impulsive act. No premeditation there, as far as I could see.
Spikes, on the other hand, determined ahead of time that next chance he got at the Georgia player, he was gonna go for his eyes.

Night and day, IMO.
db1980
QUOTE (BlackwellSooner @ Nov 11 2009, 09:53 AM) *
db, I agree with almost all of your post, except the bolded part above: the word "malicious", in my mind, implies premeditated intent to do damage.
Spikes' action definitely falls into that category; Blount's does not. Blount's punch to the Boise State player's jaw was as a result of a provoked action, and was, to all intents, an impulsive act. No premeditation there, as far as I could see.
Spikes, on the other hand, determined ahead of time that next chance he got at the Georgia player, he was gonna go for his eyes.

Night and day, IMO.



I said that because they both did what they did with malice in their hearts. Whether they were provoked or not they did what they did with the intent to hurt the other person, which is sort of the definition of malicious. The desire to see another suffer. Being provoked doesn't make it right or wrong and I think we both agree on that. Yes, Blount did get caught up in the moment but the same could be said for Spikes, too. Not night and day in my mind.

This is weird....you and I agreeing on something.
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