QUOTE (Heron @ Nov 15 2009, 08:10 PM)

I guess I'll speak up as one of the rare Baylor fans in these parts.
First, I agree. It's ridiculous and hurts the team.
But, EVERY team has players that do this whether on the field or from the sidelines. This is a human problem, not just a Baylor problem. Wish this were not the case with sports, but no team (or its fans) can point the finger at others. It may be partly a coaching issue, but if you think your team doesn't have its characters doing this sort of thing, or worse, you're just naive.
Or should I pull up stories of players driving into apartment buildings while supposedly texting, players getting paid at car dealerships for work not done, players masturbating in their car on campus, players breaking into apartments to get their TVs back, etc. So, yeah, it was bad form and hopefully will be dealt with but your favorite team's not above it, either. And if we're honest with ourselves, we are all capable of this and worse under the wrong circumstances.
To be honest, I kind of wonder why anyone even needed to start this thread in the first place. But I guess we all feel better at times when we can point out the faults in others.
Oh, and "Beat Navy" apply that transcript standard to your own school before you start tossing that stone at others. Baylor historically has had one of the highest, if not the highest, graduation rates in the Big 12 for its scholarship athletes.
Good post. I did not intend to imply that Baylor has discipline problems. I was just pointing out the two Bears talking the smack prior to the game with their "horns down" hand signs didn't even play. The last thing the Bears needed was for Texas to get fired up for this game, and quite frankly, I don't think any UT players paid any attention to the two Bears at the 50 yard line. I'm just not a fan of the taunting at any level. And the DB that got the taunting penalty should have celebrated with fellow green jerseys. If so there would be no flag, and I wouldn't have had to listen to all the Baylor fans around me shouting that the game was fixed. LOL! I'd love to see the Bears jump on A&M next week. They, Baylor, are actually the only other BIG XII team I root for.
PS - It was nice to see other Baylor athletes honored at the game. Baylor has an amazing 4 x 400 meter relay team (indoor or outdoor), and their men's tennis team also did very well. Nice "shot" thrown in by the announcer that the tennis team beat UT. LOL!