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Immortal13
Since this question keeps getting repeatedly dodged on the other thread, I thought I'd start a new topic:


What great teams have Florida or Alabama played? Anyone, anyone????
BayouBengal
They have both beaten LSU, who was #4 when Florida played them and #9 when Bama played them.
WETSU
QUOTE (Immortal13 @ Nov 20 2009, 12:06 PM) *
Since this question keeps getting repeatedly dodged on the other thread, I thought I'd start a new topic:


What great teams have Florida or Alabama played? Anyone, anyone????


The only game with any muster that Texas has won is OK st... If you want to say OU is a quality win than Florida and Bama have beat LSU Ole Miss SCAR and Georgia..
Lhornfan
QUOTE (WETSU @ Nov 20 2009, 12:50 PM) *
The only game with any muster that Texas has won is OK st... If you want to say OU is a quality win than Florida and Bama have beat LSU Ole Miss SCAR and Georgia..

Yeah, OU ####, and Texas even played them back when they had everybody with the exception of Bradford after a few series. And Texas demolished OSU when many on here thought they would struggle or even lose.
ed3
LSU's offense is horrrible.
bordertown
In 2008, I would argue til I was blue in the face that the BIG XII was the best conference in America. Fast forward to 2008, I can not make that argument. Texas is equal or better than last year. Except for Kansas State, it seems everyone is down are were not top line last year.

I will give the SEC the nod in 2009.

Having made that statement, I think Texas could hold their own this year. If Texas, Florida and Alabama played a round robin, each team would have a 1-1 record. Those Texas haters than forecast Texas demise in the NC game to an SEC opponent, seem to forget that Muschamp know these coaches in the SEC and their tendencies. Mack Brown is 3-0 in BCS Bowl Games.
Lhornfan
^None of that matters because Texas doesn't play anybody; not even in the BCS Bowl Games.
Immortal13
QUOTE (WETSU @ Nov 20 2009, 12:50 PM) *
The only game with any muster that Texas has won is OK st... If you want to say OU is a quality win than Florida and Bama have beat LSU Ole Miss SCAR and Georgia..


I'm sorry, maybe you didn't comprehend the question. I'll repeat: what great teams has Alabama and Florida played?

hint: this thread is not about Texas. Try again.
DaveTV1
I wish all the Division 1 schools would stop scheduling the Division II teams. Alabama has a tough game against UT-Chatanooga, Florida has a nailbiter against FIU.

There are really no premier College football games to watch this weekend. Teams from all conferences, not just the SEC are doing their best to make it undefeated. I see a lot of Good teams playing bad teams, Alabama, Florida, and Texas schedule looks like Boise States schedule this year.
WETSU
QUOTE (Immortal13 @ Nov 20 2009, 04:39 PM) *
I'm sorry, maybe you didn't comprehend the question. I'll repeat: what great teams has Alabama and Florida played?

hint: this thread is not about Texas. Try again.


SCAR LSU Tenn and Ole miss would all be big time players in the big 12 this season. And Bama and Florida have beat all of them. Sorry if i got off....But i know your post mortal and this is a plea for you to bash SEC and praise Texas SOS. I hate the SEC but i think they all are solid teams.
HitEmHarder
Solid teams but would end up about the same in the Big XII IMO.
THSfanatic
QUOTE (WETSU @ Nov 20 2009, 09:12 PM) *
. I hate the SEC but i think they all are solid teams.


Absolutely solid but top heavy with Fl & Al. Just like big 12 would be with Texas & OK. Oklahoma down......sure they're down. If Fl had lost Tebow they would be struggling like OK. FL has not shown dominance. I agree with the rating (1) Florida (2) Alabama (3) Texas, but there isn't much difference & it depends on mistakes who wins in this trio.
I don't see the point in saying 1 conference is the best. It doesn't matter to me what the "also rans" do. It's win or bust for these 3 teams.
BayouBengal
QUOTE (THSfanatic @ Nov 21 2009, 12:42 AM) *
Absolutely solid but top heavy with Fl & Al.

Of course that's top heavy. It can't get much heavier at the top of a conference this late in the season though, and it won't be that top heavy after the SEC Championship. I feel like Florida, Bama and LSU all have great shots to finish in the top 10 thoough. That's pretty salty, especially after they've beat up on each other.
BeatNavy
QUOTE (BayouBengal @ Nov 21 2009, 11:41 AM) *
Of course that's top heavy. It can't get much heavier at the top of a conference this late in the season though, and it won't be that top heavy after the SEC Championship. I feel like Florida, Bama and LSU all have great shots to finish in the top 10 thoough. That's pretty salty, especially after they've beat up on each other.

LSWHO? let me see...bama, uf, tx,tcu, bs (that's boise state...hmpfff), cinn,
BayouBengal
QUOTE (BeatNavy @ Nov 21 2009, 11:08 AM) *
LSWHO? let me see...bama, uf, tx,tcu, bs (that's boise state...hmpfff), cinn,

I don't understand what you meant by that. My only point was that the SEC could very well have 3 teams in the top 10 after its all over.
Immortal13
QUOTE (BayouBengal @ Nov 21 2009, 12:25 PM) *
I don't understand what you meant by that. My only point was that the SEC could very well have 3 teams in the top 10 after its all over.


who would the third team be????
BayouBengal
QUOTE (Immortal13 @ Nov 21 2009, 01:07 PM) *
who would the third team be????

The #8 team in the Nation right now. A win at Ole Miss, a win against the Hogs and a Bowl win and LSU won't finish any lower that #8. My guess is that half of those undefeated teams will finish with a loss, and that could put LSU in the top 5. That's a fact there lil buddy.
JSmith06
QUOTE (BayouBengal @ Nov 21 2009, 01:32 PM) *
The #8 team in the Nation right now. A win at Ole Miss, a win against the Hogs and a Bowl win and LSU won't finish any lower that #8. My guess is that half of those undefeated teams will finish with a loss, and that could put LSU in the top 5. That's a fact there lil buddy.


If you have to guess and then add to that the possibility of something happening, then I wouldn't consider that a fact, lil buddy. I would take the middle Big 12 over the middle SEC...but this discussion is going nowhere. People can argue the stats all day long but no one knows what would happen if they played, because they don't play...thus we are back to the "we need a playoff" situation.
BayouBengal
QUOTE (JSmith06 @ Nov 21 2009, 02:29 PM) *
If you have to guess and then add to that the possibility of something happening, then I wouldn't consider that a fact, lil buddy. I would take the middle Big 12 over the middle SEC...but this discussion is going nowhere. People can argue the stats all day long but no one knows what would happen if they played, because they don't play...thus we are back to the "we need a playoff" situation.

My fact was that if LSU wins out they will finish in the top ten. LSU finishing in the top 5 was speculation. Excuse me there lil buddy.
BeatNavy
I apologize for the SEC. Not enough good teams to put a thumping on LSU this year. The two good ones certainly did. Maybe the ole former Texas recruit can do it today in Mississippi.
BayouBengal
QUOTE (BeatNavy @ Nov 21 2009, 03:00 PM) *
I apologize for the SEC. Not enough good teams to put a thumping on LSU this year. The two good ones certainly did. Maybe the ole former Texas recruit can do it today in Mississippi.

Not looking good so far.lol
Gehrig
The last 3 years have belonged to the SEC. 3 straight national championships and a combined 19-7 bowl record compared to just 12-11 for the Big 12.
BeatNavy
QUOTE (BayouBengal @ Nov 21 2009, 04:23 PM) *
Not looking good so far.lol


I stand corrected; a Texas transfer whumps the Tigers.
BayouBengal
QUOTE (BeatNavy @ Nov 21 2009, 06:39 PM) *
I stand corrected; a Texas transfer whumps the Tigers.


whumps??? You have to admit LSU is exciting.
BeatNavy
QUOTE (BayouBengal @ Nov 21 2009, 07:43 PM) *
whumps??? You have to admit LSU is exciting.


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JSmith06
QUOTE (BayouBengal @ Nov 21 2009, 06:43 PM) *
whumps??? You have to admit LSU is exciting.


The only thing that I will admit is that Les Miles really messed up the end of that game...
RedCreek49
QUOTE (ed3 @ Nov 20 2009, 01:41 PM) *
LSU's offense is horrrible.


That is not true, they could beat any team in the Big 12 except for maybe Texas. Ut, who have they beaten. Who did they beat last year. Had to come back on the last drive of the game to beat a lame Ohio State team who out played them and they hought they should have been National Champs! What a joke, no running game and an average defese at beat that would have sucked if it would not have been for their ex SEC coach who is their Defensive Coordinator.
RedCreek49
QUOTE (BeatNavy @ Nov 21 2009, 06:39 PM) *
I stand corrected; a Texas transfer whumps the Tigers.



The Texas Transfer is the only reason Ole Ms has lost 3 games this year. Because of him, our best Freshman QB is sitting on the bench at LCU behind another Texas QB in Baton Rouge who could not throwhis way out of a school of the blind. I do not understand why schools pass of QB's who can actually throw the ball and win and go for some QB who supposedly can run but has proven they can't throw. All the LSU guy from Txas has shown this year is that he can't throw or run. Why do you thing coaches won't give someone else the chance, they do not want every one to know they made the wrong decesion. That is more important than winning to some.

Sneed has sucked thsi year in the worse way. Sneed stunk up the field last year until the Fla, game and finsihed the year real good. this year he has just stunk. Today was his best game but he was just a one hit wonder.

Statistically, this year, Sneed is finishing at about the worst QB Ole MS has had in 22 years with one of their better teams.
Today, he finished 14 out of 21 for 206 yard and no TD’s and for once no Int’s. McCluster finished with one completion out of 1 attempt for a TD for 27 yards or 27 yards per attempt compared to Sneed 9.83 yards per attempt.
LSU’s Jefferson, another Texas product, finished a hair over 50% by completing 19 f 37 for 250 yards, 2 TD’s and 1 Int, 6.8 yards per attempt. Heck, the running back passed better than both Texas products.

Sneed has done so bad this year that Ole MS has moved their #1 receiver to RB just to get him the ball since Sneed could not pass it to him and if you ever saw McCluster, you would know it is not because he can’t make separation.
RedCreek49
QUOTE (ed3 @ Nov 20 2009, 01:41 PM) *
LSU's offense is horrrible.


Yes, and an average SEC offense last year proved it did not have a problem scoring on a big 12 defense and and big 12 offense proved it had trouble scoring on a SEC defense.
RedCreek49
QUOTE (BeatNavy @ Nov 21 2009, 03:00 PM) *
I apologize for the SEC. Not enough good teams to put a thumping on LSU this year. The two good ones certainly did. Maybe the ole former Texas recruit can do it today in Mississippi.



Sneed is the only reason Ole Ms is not 11-0 or 10-1, however, I still pull for him anyway.
RedCreek49
Biggest difference in the Big 12 and the SEC is basically the SEC is at least one team better than the Big 12 and yes, I have the stats to back it up.

However, not to go into that, I can say this, when the top tems in thew SEC play you can say in a lot of cases the other team or teams have a chance to win. When UT plays you know they will win and in most cases, they will not even be seriously challenged unless by Oklahoma, the same usually goes for Oklahoma.
Lhornfan
QUOTE (RedCreek49 @ Nov 21 2009, 10:29 PM) *
Yes and an average SEC offense last year proved it did not have a problem scoring on a bid 12 defense and and bid 12 defense proved it had trouble scoring on a SEC defense.

Have you been drinking?

I'm sure the bid 12 defense had a horrible time trying to score on a SEC defense. LOL!
BeatNavy
Hey SEC Fans...did you see the Georgia fans walk out on their team last night with about 3 minutes to go and only down by one score. And they did get the ball back with about 1:30 to go in KY territory but turned it over again. I remember last year when the Tennessee fans walked out on their team on national TV. Georgia joins the ranks of unloyal fans when things are not going perfect. thumbdown.gif
db1980
QUOTE (BayouBengal @ Nov 21 2009, 10:41 AM) *
Of course that's top heavy. It can't get much heavier at the top of a conference this late in the season though, and it won't be that top heavy after the SEC Championship. I feel like Florida, Bama and LSU all have great shots to finish in the top 10 thoough. That's pretty salty, especially after they've beat up on each other.



The "SEC 3" has officially become the "SEC 4" now that Ole Miss has beaten the university of Louisisana-Baton Rouge. Will it become the "SEC 5" if Arkansas beats the swamp kittens?

Houston Nutt just has a knack for beating LSU doesn't he?
BeatNavy
QUOTE (BeatNavy @ Nov 22 2009, 07:35 AM) *
Hey SEC Fans...did you see the Georgia fans walk out on their team last night with about 3 minutes to go and only down by one score. And they did get the ball back with about 1:30 to go in KY territory but turned it over again. I remember last year when the Tennessee fans walked out on their team on national TV. Georgia joins the ranks of unloyal fans when things are not going perfect. thumbdown.gif


oh by the way...it was senior night at Georgia.
RedCreek49
QUOTE (RedCreek49 @ Nov 21 2009, 10:23 PM) *
The Texas Transfer is the only reason Ole Ms has lost 3 games this year. Because of him, our best Freshman QB is sitting on the bench at LCU behind another Texas QB in Baton Rouge who could not throwhis way out of a school of the blind. I do not understand why schools pass of QB's who can actually throw the ball and win and go for some QB who supposedly can run but has proven they can't throw. All the LSU guy from Txas has shown this year is that he can't throw or run. Why do you thing coaches won't give someone else the chance, they do not want every one to know they made the wrong decesion. That is more important than winning to some.

Sneed has sucked thsi year in the worse way. Sneed stunk up the field last year until the Fla, game and finsihed the year real good. this year he has just stunk. Today was his best game but he was just a one hit wonder.

Statistically, this year, Sneed is finishing at about the worst QB Ole MS has had in 22 years with one of their better teams.
Today, he finished 14 out of 21 for 206 yard and no TD’s and for once no Int’s. McCluster finished with one completion out of 1 attempt for a TD for 27 yards or 27 yards per attempt compared to Sneed 9.83 yards per attempt.
LSU’s Jefferson, another Texas product, finished a hair over 50% by completing 19 f 37 for 250 yards, 2 TD’s and 1 Int, 6.8 yards per attempt. Heck, the running back passed better than both Texas products.

Sneed has done so bad this year that Ole MS has moved their #1 receiver to RB just to get him the ball since Sneed could not pass it to him and if you ever saw McCluster, you would know it is not because he can’t make separation.


Ok, I got as little over passioate. Actually Sneed and not had anywhere near the year as he had last year. However, he worse year (this year) he is still bettert han the previous 4 QB's we have had before he got here. It's just been dissipointing with all the expectations every one had becase of how well he did last year. He does miss Wallace, his leading revceiver and Oher his leading blocker.

.............. YEAR........ CMP......... ATT......... YDS..........CMP%...... YPA...... TD........INT........RAT
Sneed...... 2009.........161.......... 299.......... 2189.........53.8......... 7.32...... 17....... 14........124.74
Sneed...... 2008.........184.......... 327.......... 2762.........56.3......... 8.45.. ....26.........13.......145.5
RedCreek49
QUOTE (Lhornfan @ Nov 21 2009, 11:44 PM) *
Have you been drinking?

I'm sure the bid 12 defense had a horrible time trying to score on a SEC defense. LOL!



Well...it was late! You know what I meant. Hey, if your defense can't score on our defense then how can you expect to win (lol)!!!!

I for one do not think the big 12 is weak or not good. I do, however, thing the SEC is a little better, about 1 team better. The difference is that small.
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