The time has come for the UIL to make a GOOD descision, create a 6A division. With all of the new schools coming on line, they have to. Look at the growth around the Denton area, Krum, Prosper, Argyle, Justin. These were sleepy little farming communities five years ago, now the population is expanding.

Everyone knows that 3A is out of whack, now the UIL wants to expand the numbers in 2A, making that classification out of proportion.

The Uil has to stop being stupid, adding teams to the playoffs is not the answer, no 3-7 team should be in the playoffs.

Make a 6A division, and align the numbers for 1A-5A so teams are competitive, take two teams to the playoffs from each district. Stop all of this div1 and div2.

I want a true state champion from each classification!

Thanks to Smoaky for letting Me express my opinion!

Great point.


There needs to be some equity in the 2A and 3A district opponents. It's not fair to have a school with 395 students in the same district with a school with 895 students. Let's get some common sense here.

Raider iI don't know if these numbers are correct but these are what I saw, 2A -250 to 500, 3A 500 to 999.

How in the world does a 2A team with 260 students compete with a school that LISTS 499 students, they don't.

The same can be said about a 3A team.

How about a 1A team with a reported population of 170 competing against a team with a reported population of 245!

I don't know the answer, but a 6A classification would sure help ease the numbers issue.

fastballpilot, an 6A classification is a great idea, but one the UIL doesn't seem to want to act on. It would be great to go back to 2 playoff teams from each district and ONE state champion per classification.

Every classification is out of whack, not just the smaller ones. Look at a smaller 4A with around 1000 competing with schools that have 17 or 1800. And the differences will only get larger within the different classes until UIL step up and creates a 6A.

You're right. That may be the only sensible solution. Lots of schools get shafted every time no matter what.

Logistics prevent a 6A division. End of discussion.

Sspunk, that is a tired and lame excuse that has run its course. If the UIL was worried about logistics they would put teams that have similiar numbers , and are within 15-20 miles of each other in the same district. But they don't, they put them on a 2 hour bus ride to wherever. That makes sense. End of discussion.

No, there aren't even schools to make 6A legit. Tyler Lee would be in a district with Plano East, Rockwall, a Garland school and maybe a Killeen school. There aren't enough massive schools to create that division.

Sspunk, a 6A division would separate the massive schools away from the less massive schools, if you follow me. My question is, why must the lower clasifications; 4-A,1A be punished because the 5A classification cries logistics. That is a lie and a scare tactic that the UIL has used for years. The truth is 5A supporters do not want things to change, they lose money!
Everyone knows that the UIL bows to the 5A, at the expense of every other classification. If this was not true We would have a 6A classification now. I have no problem with you or you opinion! The truth is the UIL protects the 5A schools. And gives the shaft to all of the others.

End of discussion!

Changing the cutoff numbers will not make things more equal in population among classifications, people would still be crying about the other school having 3 more students. In that case there have to be alot more classifications. I think the D-1 and D-2's are the closest we're gonna get to fair. It actually splits up the classifications into more like 8 or 9 classes instead of 6

If Div I and Div II is more fair, why not have Div I & II for sports other than football. Seems to me to be less about fairness and more about $$$$$.

I agree!! They don't want to change much because it might effect their $$$$$

Money prevents a 6A division. I agree with the previous post.

Personally I don't want to see it happen because Longview probably wouldn't be in it.

Longivew wouldn't be in it, but neither would anyone else from East Texas, so you would keep playing the same teams as always. I would envision a 6A cutoff being somewhere around 2600.

Fair enough! then the East Texas teams would have a shot @ the 5A State title again.

exactly, Longview would be able to compete for a change...no more one and dones

Looking at the large spread- consider Class A
A school with 120 in HS will have approx. 60 boys 30 will play football ---no JV--- A school with210 will have 105 boys -- 53 play football- they are able to have a JV There programs dominate. Class 3a 380 IN HS 190 are boys -95 plat football you can have 9-jv V it is tough to compete witha school with 900 but can be done.Quality is better to choose from, but in class A you dont get a choice.
CLASS a 100 BELOW 6 MAN
101--175 11 MAN
2A 175-350, 3A -351 700 4A 701- 1300 5A 1301-2100 6 A 2101 and up

A 6a classification would be great for Texas football as a whole. Most states stop the classifications a 5a. This could set Texas apart from the other states and bring on a whole new look for Texas football recruiting. there is to much "we won state in the class 2A division 1 East of Dallas State championship last year" . Before long nobody will know who was the best in the class. If they continue to have two divisions per classification why not line the two division winners up and let them see who the real state champion is.
having a 6A would settle a lot of issues. You won't have a 1A school with an enrollment of 94 playing a 1A school with an enrollment of 188. Or a 2A school with a 201 enrollment playing one with a 398 enrollment. That is simply not fair.

I think Oklahoma has a 6A

Why not make a 6-A or Super 5-A division where you pull teams from the metropolitan areas, Dallas, Houston, Austin, S/A. Compete for a City Championship and then bring those teams into a state playoff. This will allow the teams like Tyler, Longview and Lufkin to compete in 5A for a state championship. You could even allow teams to opt to compete in this division in order to compete for their City Championship. Just trying to think outside the box. Probably why UIL would not consider it.

i think we need a 6A. get some of the other classifications a little closer

At www.fridaynighthistory.com/mockalign3.html you will find a mock realignment for 2004-06 for 6 divisions. It is not perfect but it is intriguing. Look up your school and see what you think.

No anywhere NEAR perfect. That has to be the most laughable predictions that I have seen. He left out several teams that will play 6 man. He had some teams that will play 6 man listed in Class A. He went against past precedence by actually LOWERING the numbers for the Class A level. He even has some FOUR team districts in Class A which would mean you could make the playoffs with a 1-9 record. There will not be a 6A in the near future. The numbers in Class A will go to at least 199.5. The won't be any "byes" in Class A anymore because of the expansion of the playoffs. Other than that, it was OK.

If you are going to have Division I and II why not have the two big schools in one division and the small school in the other. now it is cut and dried. the bigger schools in a district are close together. the biggest school usually makes the top 3. And the big school knows which way its going. But you could give the advantage to the small school in the district that makes the play-offs. also give some ? as to who goes where.
This might even make more sense in Class 4A and down. where a few hundred make a big difference. might even be where you could make a wider difference knowing if the small school could make the top three it would be in the play-offs with schools closer to its size.

Colmesneil, you are usually more observant. You made some good points but missed the mark. This mock realignment was made for 2004-06. At that time only two teams made the playoffs in Class A, so it would have been impossible for a 1-9 team to make the playoffs in a 4-team district.

In his mock realignment two teams making the playoffs in a four team district may seem watered down but the UIL has 3 teams making the playoffs in a 5 team district (see 3A).

I said it wasn't perfect, but I posted it for discussion. There are some mistakes ie. Center listed in two districts in 3A. Obviously, with 3 teams making the playoffs in 1A and 4 teams making the playoffs in 5A, it would have to be revamped for 2006-08.

If we had 6 divisions we could go back to 2 teams making the playoffs from each district and crown one state champion per division.

Everyone who is complaining about not having a true champion should support only the district winner making the playoffs and leave all of those 9-1/8-2 wannabe runners-up at home. I don't understand how letting more teams in the playoffs is such a problem for some people. The state champion still has to win 6 games against the best in the state. If a team is not worthy they will be beaten in bidistrict. Don't forget how many more teams and students are playing now than in the past. I would suppose that there is more competition now than in the past just because of the increase in teams and students.

I currently play for the San Augustine Wolves and I just love playing and I also love a little competition. I still agree with most of these people is this forum who have posted their comments. I don't see what's the problem with a 6A division. It's Texas football, everythings big down here, so why not make one. Only the very ELITE teams will be crowned the champs and everyone will soon learn to respect them!



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