if both Daingerfield and Jefferson both drop down to 2A then that would leave the district Atlanta,PG,LE and NB with only 4 teams and nobody to fill the gaps.

theres not a team within nearly 100 miles thats either going to move up or down during this coming realignment.

does anybody besides me forsee a possible situation like Longview, JT,Lufkin and REL were in a few years ago with a 4 team district where the top three teams make the play-offs and they play each other twice during the district schedule?

i just don't see any substitutes for loosing those two teams.

UIL would have to start at I-35 and move east to rearange all of the districts to make it work.

Can't go too far north or east. Would it make better sense to align Atlanta with teams down the "I-30 Dallas corridor" or group it with "deep East Texas?"

i have no idea what they would do

What about putting Pittsburg in with Atlanta, PG, LE and NB...only 20 minutes west of Daingerfield.

I was thinkin the same thing....

the problem with that is that there are no 3A teams availible until you get to mt. vernon. and they're already locked into a district. mt. vernon is at least 70 miles from texarkana.

if you head south on US 59 then you don't hit a 3A until you get to carthage. thats 100 miles from texarkana.

the problem with pittsburg is the same, there doesnt look to be enough movement in the region to fill the voids of any district.

if just jefferson drops it won't be so bad because they might be able to fill the void with pittsburg or somebody like that. but if daingerfield drops as well, then we're short two teams and theres nothing within 100 miles to fill the gap.

New Boston has only nine more students than Daingerfield. What if three teams drop out of your district? I think then it might make sense, although we'd certainly have to travel farther than usual, to put Pittsburg AND Gilmer in that district. That would make it five teams and that is enough for a district these days.

I know this won't happen. But years ago, Gilmer always went north in our travels. District 7-3A (which would now be 4A) included Liberty-Eylau, Atlanta, Daingerfield, Pittsburg, Mount Pleasant and Sulphur Springs along with Gilmer. Sometimes even Paris got in there with us.

i remeber those days. that was a lot of traveling for district games.

There's still a chance that Paris could drop to 3A. They turned in in the mid 900's. I heard last summer that the UIL was looking at making the top end of 4A around 940-950. If that happens you could see Paris in with Atlanta.

well, until this last realignment we'd played them every year for nearly 10 years if i remeber correctly.

i like playing paris but i absolutly hate the drive up there. i'm yet to find a good way from atlanta. all of them end up turning into a two lane road and me getting behind a farmer driving 30mph with no passing zones as far as the eyes can see.

Paris turned in 979....they'll stay 4A....

If REL, Longview, Lufkin, and JT were to form that four team district again it would make NOT reaching the playoffs impossible. Unless the UIL isnt putting 4 teams in the 5A districts in the playoffs. I was under the impression they were.

As for 3A... I dont think Gilmer will move up to Atlanta and L-E's district. Think about it like this - the UIL is a money machine. You cant tell me all that revenue they bring in from the playoff matches when Gilmer plays a team from that district in a bigger stadium is not very appealing to them. But then what do you do with that district up there?

oh, anytime gilmers played atlanta or d'field in the last several years, it's been packed out houses no matter where they held the show.

like i said, even if d'field stay's up, theres hardley enough movement in any teams anywhere within 100 miles to fill out this district. that is assuming QC, Dekalb,Clarksville and Redwater all remain in 2A.

but if d'field does drop down it's going to be interesting to see what they brew up for a district.

the other problem is that we already have a nightmare getting preseason games. i don't even want to think about trying to find more. they might as well put LE and Atlanta up in 4A. we already play texas high, mt. pleasant, kilgore and hallsville. it would be tough playing at that level but hey, at least we wouldnt have to drive to paris! who knows we might even make the play-offs sometime. LE plays a similar schedule. it's not like it would be a total culture shock to us.

if atlanta moved up to 4A(which they have no chance of doing) they would get hammered. even though we always play the 4A portion of our schedule the toughest. when district starts, we "tweak" our lineup and don't win another game. 16-16 record the last three years, and that includes the year we won state. i'll bet we won't have too much trouble finding any teams to play us next season. no team has a reason to fear us anymore.

how much more money does the UIL make on a playoff game than on a regular season game?

stillarabbfan...learn to realize when somebody is talking tongue and cheek about something. don't bring your venom for the atlanta program down here.

the people i'm talking too realize that i was seriously joking when i said that.

end it NOW!!!

i know you were joking about moving up too. no venom for the program here, just stating facts. isn't atlanta's record 16-16 the last 3 years? who in their right mind would be scared to play a .500 club? don't know why you defend the program so much. if you're who i think you are, your kid's a senior. the athletic director said and i quote, "this year's seniors were as bad as last year's. no leadership or want to". you can't really sugar coat that can you? here it's never the coaches fault, always the players fault. all i've ever said was it was time for a change.

A change of scenery could do the Rabbits some good. I remember Atlanta being in a district with Gilmer, Pittsburg, Daingerfield, Jefferson, and Linden-Kildare. Obviously, L-K and Jefferson are at 2A numbers and possibly Daingerfield, but I could totally see the UIL moving Gilmer and Pittsburg into a district with Atlanta and the Texarkana schools.

i guess it still depends on what movement of schools we're going to get from the tyler/longview/marshall/mp area.

i don't think there will be too many undefeated teams left after district if gilmer joins 14-3A

uggg, talk about black and blue district!

that would be brutal.

i dont think gilmer joins that district

I don't think we will either. That's because the UIL takes into account distances to other schools and that is becoming more and more important as transportation costs skyrocket.

But to us oldtimers, it is the natural alignment for Gilmer. It wasn't until the '90s when Gilmer didn't play Atlanta in district. I remember in the seventh grade getting out of school early because we had to make a bus trip to Texarkana to play Liberty-Eylau at 5 p.m.

I just dont think they will for money reasons. I dont think they want to take away that first round playoff matchup that they bank on

what about hooks? what are they going to turn in? ..seems like weve forgotten about them..

i talked to a couple of people from daingerfield today and they were almost positive that they would drop to 2A.

Mt Vernon is a strong possibility for the Atlanta district. If Winnsboro drops down to 2A
(50%) chance, MV will be strung out at end of old district not really close to anybody. They could be sent east and MV and Winnsboro replaced in old district by Mineola and Gilmer

We will know in about 11 hours what district every one will be in for the next 2 years.

Hooks has been in 2A for a while now. Don't look for them to move up anytime soon. They are not even the largest school in the district; I believe Redwater, Queen City and Clarksville all have larger enrollments.

ouch

i was dead on close with my guessing. just wasnt expecting NB to drop as well. THE NEW DISTRICT 16-3A (drum roll please.....)

LE
PG
Atlanta
Mt. Vernon
Pittsburg

oh yeah, thats only 5. um...we gotta fill SIX flippin preseason games now????

argggg!!!

Yall have fun with Pitt now....

hey rabfan when Atlanta and D'field did go 4A IN 1970'S or somewhere around there, who made up the , district, didn't LE also go up to 4A around that time?

no offense to any school, but giving up jefferson, daingerfield, and a very good up and coming new boston team and getting pittsburg and mt vernon instead...i'll take it.

Ya i agree with you....

It depends on what sport you talking about, because i know for a fact we are much improved in football, and in basketball, no one in district will have a chance. bclove are you still mad cause we are blowing people out in baskball or what?

Nope. Didnt care in the first place. I also agree with you yall do have a improved football team and its def. obvious about yalls basketball team. Good luck to yall...

Thanks!

To answer BRAD's question about the 70's district:

1973-74 District 7-AAA (would be 4A under today's system)

Mt. Pleasant
Sulphur Springs
Atlanta
Liberty-Eylau
Daingerfield
Jefferson
Gilmer
Pittsburg
Clarksville

I chose '73-'74 as it was my senior year. Oops, just told what on old coot I am.

that was a bruiser of a district !

[quote]Originally posted by boydawg1
[quote]Originally posted by rabbitts&canes
[quote]Originally posted by Bclove05
Yall have fun with Pitt now.... [/quote]

no offense to any school, but giving up jefferson, daingerfield, and a very good up and coming new boston team and getting pittsburg and mt vernon instead...i'll take it. [/quote]

It depends on what sport you talking about, because i know for a fact we are much improved in football, and in basketball, no one in district will have a chance. bclove are you still mad cause we are blowing people out in baskball or what? [/quote]

i beg to differ on the basketball subject.. you wont have any problem with atl, pg, or mt vernon, but i can promise that youll have problems with le next year.. 3 seniors on the team and the rest are sophomores.. 6-0 in this district right now..

atlanta right now is looking at the possibility of having one and possibly two holes in it's preseason schedule.

we now have to fill six preseason games. five was bad enough.

[quote]Originally posted by Req
[quote]Originally posted by boydawg1
[quote]Originally posted by rabbitts&canes
[quote]Originally posted by Bclove05
Yall have fun with Pitt now.... [/quote]

no offense to any school, but giving up jefferson, daingerfield, and a very good up and coming new boston team and getting pittsburg and mt vernon instead...i'll take it. [/quote]

It depends on what sport you talking about, because i know for a fact we are much improved in football, and in basketball, no one in district will have a chance. bclove are you still mad cause we are blowing people out in baskball or what? [/quote]

i beg to differ on the basketball subject.. you wont have any problem with atl, pg, or mt vernon, but i can promise that youll have problems with le next year.. 3 seniors on the team and the rest are sophomores.. 6-0 in this district right now.. [/quote]

atlanta will not be a push over either. three stud transfer students are due to hit town any day from slaevakia and they are huge. 6'2", 6'4", and 6'6" respectively, and they're in 8th grade. if we can get them through customs, it's lights out. have fun battling for 2nd place next year!

:rofl:

now theres some good recruiting by atlanta lol!!