Even tough it is staged and all for good entertainment you cant tell me that these guys arent athletic and that these matches are not as much a sport as UFC or professional boxing. Come on guys......lets hear it!!!!!!!!!!

I like wrestling however I dont consider it a sport because the outcome is pre-determined.

Regardless of how athletic these yay-hoos are, it's not a sport. It's entertainment. Scripted, outcome predetermined.

Let one of these steroid freaks in the ring with Chuck Liddell and see who's the real fighter. Can't even think about comparing the two.

Plus, if it was a sport, someone would be betting on it.

Are you saying Chucky never hit a roid?

No, I'm saying Chuckie would beat one of those WWE freaks like Ike beat Tina.

Stone Cold vs Chuck Liddell That would draw a lot of money
I know Ken Shamrock got manhandled backstage by Undertaker. UFC vs Pro Wrestler
Scott Steiner head butted Tank Abbot backstage and Tank walked away not wanting to fight. These were not staged events, but rifts between big egos.
I would not say UFC could dominate pro wrestling.

UFC would dominate pro wrestling.... I can say it !!!

pro wrestlers would be tappin faster than Wilt Chamberlain....LOL

most of the pro wrestlers would either be in the heavyweight class or not even close to the weight requirements at all for UFC. Kane, Undertaker, Khali, Big Show, etc. would not even be allowed to fight.

iF IT WERE A SPORT THEN THE WRESTLERS WOULD NOT BE RQUIRED TO BE MEMBER OF aCTORS GUILD UNION , WHICH THEY ARE

The only reason I started this discussion was because some of the things they do in the ring is athletic and the competition is obviously sport even though there is a determined winner. I would say that fighting the Great Khali you would not have to wrestle a fast paced match, but try wrestling either of the Hardys, Cena, Michaels, etc and anybody would be gasping for air.
Like Sting said about Ric Flair, " I was wrestling him for twenty minutes and I was gasping for air and Ric was just smiling."

I don't know if pro wrestling is a sport, but wrestlers are athletes.

Best said......I would take prowrestlers over the UFC....it is fixed just like Boxing anyway...only difference between prowrestling is that they come out and say they have writers.....

I think it is a sport but not with out the entertainment tag. They are athletes many of the come from backgrounds of the "real" i.e. Kurt Angle Olympic Gold and The Rock a very good DE for Miami and so on. But, look at it like this figure skaters are athletes (especially that Will Ferell guy now thats a real athlete:rofl:) but is that a sport?? I just think the old moniker that its a guys soap opera fits it best. Don't get me wrong I used to love it but, The Rock leaving really killed it for me. As far as UFC vs WWE well I don't know I would like to think that some of the match ups would be reasonable like maybe a Kurt Angle vs Matt Hughes. Most likely though he would get anihilated. I think the only guy that really had a chance at UFC or Pride to be really good is Goldberg but alas he fizzled out. I tell you one thing though those UFC guys would love a piece of that WWE money. Not to mention endorsements and movie opportunities.

UFC fixed?? The biggest hyped UFC fighter in a long time got knocked smooth out in the first round last Saturday. Krokop, after getting pounded for most of the first round finally got back to his feet only to be sent to lala land with a kick to the head. From a marketing and $$ aspect, that was the last thing that the UFC needed out of that fight. That one definitely was not fixed.

krokop getting beaten could've been the result of big bets going the other way. don't know. as far as the wrestling thing goes, i do think that many of those guys are very athletic to pull off some of those moves in/out of the ring. i do not consider it a sport however. that being said i'd rather watch it than golf or bowling

[quote]Originally posted by threejs
[quote]Originally posted by chilipepper3
[quote]Originally posted by KildogDad
I don't know if pro wrestling is a sport, but wrestlers are athletes. [/quote]
Best said......I would take prowrestlers over the UFC....it is fixed just like Boxing anyway...only difference between prowrestling is that they come out and say they have writers..... [/quote]

UFC fixed?? The biggest hyped UFC fighter in a long time got knocked smooth out in the first round last Saturday. Krokop, after getting pounded for most of the first round finally got back to his feet only to be sent to lala land with a kick to the head. From a marketing and $$ aspect, that was the last thing that the UFC needed out of that fight. That one definitely was not fixed. [/quote]

I think threejs meant boxing, not UFC.

pro wrestling is not a sport.. all they are is a bunch of "STUNT MEN", "ACTING" like there fighting.. its not even comparable with the UFC..

Just don't tell me that when they are getting smacked upside the head with a steel chair.............some acting.

:lurk: I love it!

While wrestling is extremely physically taxing, it simply is not a sport.

I do not think wrestling is a sport, but they ar emost certainly athletic and some of the most terrifying men on the face of the earth. UFC to me is hard to call a sport do to the fac tthat it is simply fighting. Boxing is kind of a art so to speak, there is a certain science to it, where as UFC you can be good at breaking someones ankle and be very succesful, I have a hard time calling that a sport.

It's drama on sterioids....literally.

If you live in a trailer park and have a 3rd grade education then wrestling is for you, otherwise its total garbage !!!

I quit watching wrasslin' when I was 12. It's not a real sport. I suppose if you enjoy the entertainment value, great go for it. I would never be caught defending it for more than what it is. I do still have a Program smeared with the blood of "Killer" Karl Kox. But watching Ted Dibiase/"Hacksaw" Jim Duggan/Mr. Olympia and their antics, it was time to find a more worthwhile hobby.

it's a soap opera. if you don't watch it every week you won't know what's going on.


and that's the bottom line cause Stone Cold said so

It's as phony as a $3 bill

The WWE, TNA etc... are violent soap operas with some very athletic actors (most of which are on steroids). Not a true competitve sport because it is scripted. Like they say it is "sports entertainment."

I dont think that professional wrestling is a sport becuase there is not any competition invovled everything is scripted.

It is a SHOW!

Surely no one in their right mind actually thinks it's a real competition.
Are they athletes, duh. Is it a sport? No. Like people have said countless times, it's entertainment. If you really think "someone cheated" to win the belt, you have issues that are better dealt with somewhere other than Smoaky.com

Speaking of which, I went out with a "female college athlete" over 20 years ago. She almost killed me when I, out of politeness, skipped over Channel 11 at 10:30 on a Saturday night. I think she went for the butcher knife when I commented that I had worked out that day with a guy who left the gym to go "rehearse" the match he had coming up that weekend. Needless to say, that was a last date. I believe she is now in public education.

I actually watch wrestling when i get a chance, it is sports entertainment and those guys are very athletic. But u guys that r calling it a bunch of steroid freaks, thats in everything now, including the ufc so i dont get why all of a sudden the wreslers are all supposely on steroids, but anyways just a opinion. There are several guys in the wwe who could hang in the ring with ufc guys.

LOL. I'm glad I ventured into this forum for the first time.

when i was 7 or 8 i thought it was a sport. then I grew up.

i watch occasionally for entertainment. i can predict who will win every match. except the occainsional PPV match. ( which I wouldn't pay hard earned $$ to watch)

Here's how it works.

****if there's a guy in the ring with no intro music, no flashy jacket, or gimmick, and he's from the town the show is in. He will Lose.

****if a guy has a sidekick by the ring, he will win by cheating somehow.

****if the guy is a champion(with a belt) he will win or the other guy will be DQ.

****if the referee is knocked out, the good guy will pin the bad guy only to have a reversal of fortune. when he attempts to rouse the ref, he'll be attacked from the behind by the bad guy (or bad guy's accomplice) Suddenly the ref awakens to count the pinfall, bad guy wins...crowd boos!