BigRedFan
Jul 27 2007, 10:53 AM
What schools are likely to move up or down come October?
clawsnstripes
Jul 27 2007, 09:05 PM
don't know for sure but the rumor is that T-High will move up to 5A
RatKing
Jul 29 2007, 03:16 PM
QUOTE(clawsnstripes @ Jul 27 2007, 10:05 PM)

don't know for sure but the rumor is that T-High will move up to 5A
Royse City back to 4A...Prairiland to 3A....HG and Rivercrest to 1A(HG is a long shot)....
bordertown
Jul 30 2007, 12:50 PM
QUOTE(clawsnstripes @ Jul 27 2007, 09:05 PM)

don't know for sure but the rumor is that T-High will move up to 5A
That is a bad rumor. Texas High is not even close. There are metro schools which are growing much faster than Texas High and probably 60 schools in 4A that are larger.
Medman7
Jul 31 2007, 11:45 AM
Still have a while before the final numbers are tallied. Wouldn't jump to conclusions yet.
Rabfan
Aug 6 2007, 10:54 PM
if they leave the numbers the same as last year, then it's a safe bet that New Boston will be heading back up to 3A next year. they were on the bubble for dropping down during the last realignment. don't know about D'field and Tatum as of yet. who knows what UIL will do to adjust things this next time. it couldn't be much worse though.
BigRedFan
Aug 13 2007, 12:22 PM
I am hoping that Winnsboro moves back up and moves back in the district with Mount Vernon where they belong. I do not like the Wood County district especially in girls basketball.
VBfan915
Aug 13 2007, 12:53 PM
QUOTE(BigRedFan @ Aug 13 2007, 01:22 PM)

I am hoping that Winnsboro moves back up and moves back in the district with Mount Vernon where they belong. I do not like the Wood County district especially in girls basketball.
What about Athens?
godawgs
Aug 14 2007, 10:44 AM
Should see a few ET schools drop from 2A to 1A. Garrison and Timpson should be good candidates to drop
hares
Aug 15 2007, 10:08 AM
QUOTE(rabfan @ Aug 6 2007, 11:54 PM)

if they leave the numbers the same as last year, then it's a safe bet that New Boston will be heading back up to 3A next year. they were on the bubble for dropping down during the last realignment. don't know about D'field and Tatum as of yet. who knows what UIL will do to adjust things this next time. it couldn't be much worse though.
In the last realignment I think Daingerfield was very close to the limit. It seems the Tigers were only 6-8 students shy of going 3A again. All depends on the numbers in the next one.
How about the Rabbs get a break and land in a district like this:
Atlanta
Daingerfield
Mt. Vernon
New Boston
Pittsburg
Pleasant Grove
Liberty Eylau
How many years has it been since Atlanta was in a seven team district? How about the Rabbs fill the schedule with non-district games with Paul Pewitt, Gilmer, Tatum and one 4A school. Just a wish!
clawsnstripes
Aug 15 2007, 03:28 PM
QUOTE(hares @ Aug 15 2007, 11:08 AM)

In the last realignment I think Daingerfield was very close to the limit. It seems the Tigers were only 6-8 students shy of going 3A again. All depends on the numbers in the next one.
How about the Rabbs get a break and land in a district like this:
Atlanta
Daingerfield
Mt. Vernon
New Boston
Pittsburg
Pleasant Grove
Liberty Eylau
How many years has it been since Atlanta was in a seven team district? How about the Rabbs fill the schedule with non-district games with Paul Pewitt, Gilmer, Tatum and one 4A school. Just a wish!
atl should be very happy about district they're in now i would think.
clawsnstripes
Aug 15 2007, 03:29 PM
QUOTE(bordertown @ Jul 30 2007, 01:50 PM)

That is a bad rumor. Texas High is not even close. There are metro schools which are growing much faster than Texas High and probably 60 schools in 4A that are larger.
i'm glad the rumor wasn't true. travel for 5A would be murder and it's bad enough for 4A
hares
Aug 15 2007, 10:29 PM
QUOTE(clawsnstripes @ Aug 15 2007, 04:28 PM)

atl should be very happy about district they're in now i would think.
Well sure. I'll clarify. Of course the UIL and the numbers will control.
Daingerfield was close to the cutoff as I remember and another poster mentioned New Boston. I too understand New Boston's enrollment has grown since last season. Daingerfield, I have no info. Could be they stay in 2A. You know both these teams were in 14-3A with Atlanta prior to realignment.
Should those two move to 3A and join existing 16-3A teams that makes for a seven team district. Now that would mean Atlanta would only have to schedule four non-district games instead of six as they did last season and again this season. I cannot speak for other Rabbit fans. I know this fan would be more than happy to get a break from the non-district makeup the Rabbs have faced in recent years. Six district games and four non-district games can only be good for the Rabbs the two years that follow the next realignment. We will see if teams other than 4A will agree to non-district games with Atlanta.
KirtFalcon
Aug 16 2007, 05:13 AM
Some people I work with told me last year that Tatum is well over the 2A top end number now. They think Tatum is headed back to 3A.
hares
Aug 16 2007, 01:04 PM
QUOTE(KirtFalcon @ Aug 16 2007, 06:13 AM)

Some people I work with told me last year that Tatum is well over the 2A top end number now. They think Tatum is headed back to 3A.
Of course this all speculation. For now we have a full season of football coming up.
Interesting that you mention Tatum possibly back in 3A. I have that same thought in mind as well. Again , it depends on the numbers UIL comes up with.
Medman7
Aug 16 2007, 04:40 PM
AS you said, we still have another season to wait, but if this rumor does come out to be true, then Tatum will deffinitely have some wind knocked out of their sails.
hotrod1961
Aug 26 2007, 08:28 PM
Mineola could drop to 2A
RatKing
Aug 28 2007, 10:08 AM
QUOTE(hotrod1961 @ Aug 26 2007, 09:28 PM)

Mineola could drop to 2A
be right their with quitman i suppose
WETSU
Aug 29 2007, 12:36 PM
QUOTE(Lugnutz @ Aug 14 2007, 11:44 AM)

Should see a few ET schools drop from 2A to 1A. Garrison and Timpson should be good candidates to drop
Waskom and West Rusk have very small numbers...could be up to 4 teams in 19aa drop to 1a next year
Wild74
Sep 3 2007, 11:34 AM
I hate to keep being negative, but Waskom has to many students in HS to drop to 1A. At last count they had about 229 students and unless 1A comes up about 25 Waskom will be at the bottom of 2A for a while. Garrison and Timpson has a good chance of dropping though.
UniversalOffseason
Sep 3 2007, 02:31 PM
Why would Tatum be scared to go back to 3A? Its not like they didnt do good there.
cardad
Sep 6 2007, 07:05 AM
I heard Tatum started the 2007 school year with 445 students and that Gilmer was like 8 students from 4a-how many kids will get suspended from Gilmer before the official count goes in so they can stay in 3a.
SFAFrog
Sep 10 2007, 02:41 PM
I'm not sure how the official UIL count works but Palestine has a total count of 880-890 through today.
findog28
Sep 10 2007, 03:47 PM
Lindale is close to the 1100 mark so more than likely they will stay in 4A unless enrollment numbers rise significantly.
e_t_sports
Sep 10 2007, 05:30 PM
Anyone have the current enrollment breakdown for the various classificiations? I could not find it on the UIL website.
BigLou28109
Sep 11 2007, 05:42 PM
QUOTE(cardad @ Sep 6 2007, 08:05 AM)

I heard Tatum started the 2007 school year with 445 students and that Gilmer was like 8 students from 4a-how many kids will get suspended from Gilmer before the official count goes in so they can stay in 3a.
just enough
Rhino2K
Sep 11 2007, 07:23 PM
Smithson Valley MIGHT drop down to 4A due to the new high school at Canyon Lake.
BeyondTheArc
Sep 12 2007, 08:07 AM
QUOTE(runthebone @ Sep 3 2007, 08:31 PM)

Why would Tatum be scared to go back to 3A? Its not like they didnt do good there.
BeyondTheArc
Sep 12 2007, 08:08 AM
The reason why Tatum might not be too comfortable back in 3A is spelled GILMER!!
BeyondTheArc
Sep 12 2007, 08:17 AM
QUOTE(BigRedFan @ Jul 27 2007, 04:53 PM)

What schools are likely to move up or down come October?
Longview could join 12-4A. I have been told that they are only 6 students over the
5A cutoff. If the numbers are bumped up they could drop down to 4A
dfwfootballfan
Sep 12 2007, 09:39 AM
QUOTE(RatKing @ Jul 29 2007, 04:16 PM)

Royse City back to 4A...Prairiland to 3A....HG and Rivercrest to 1A(HG is a long shot)....
Royse City will be moving up unless the 4A number goes up quite a bit...but Royse City has never been 4A before. Rumor that Rockwall High School will be coming down to 4A and Rockwall Heath will be going up to 5A...
Butkus51
Sep 13 2007, 11:16 AM
Rumor at coaching school was said that if just 30 more schools have 5A numbers they are going to go to 6A
HitEmHarder
Sep 28 2007, 07:46 AM
QUOTE(Butkus51 @ Sep 13 2007, 12:16 PM)

Rumor at coaching school was said that if just 30 more schools have 5A numbers they are going to go to 6A
It is well past time for Texas to have a 6A classification.
Buckeye1980
Sep 28 2007, 08:28 AM
QUOTE(cardad @ Sep 6 2007, 08:05 AM)

I heard Tatum started the 2007 school year with 445 students and that Gilmer was like 8 students from 4a-how many kids will get suspended from Gilmer before the official count goes in so they can stay in 3a.
QUOTE(cardad @ Sep 6 2007, 08:05 AM)

I heard Tatum started the 2007 school year with 445 students and that Gilmer was like 8 students from 4a-how many kids will get suspended from Gilmer before the official count goes in so they can stay in 3a.
At last realignment Gilmer's number was 668.5, the top of 3A was Burkburnett with enrollment of 948.5, a differnence of 280 students. There were 65 schools with a higher enrollment number than Gilmer . Your statement about Gilmer suspending students to stay in 3A makes no sense whatsoever. I usually do not get into these arguments about Gilmer but your statement was unprovoked and was the simple case of a sore loser.
Duck208
Sep 29 2007, 10:12 PM
QUOTE(e_t_sports @ Sep 10 2007, 06:30 PM)

Anyone have the current enrollment breakdown for the various classificiations? I could not find it on the UIL website.
http://www.uil.utexas.edu/athletics/football/Look about half way down the page.
Buckeye1980
Oct 2 2007, 02:30 PM
What are the latest rumors?
dualdellortos
Oct 2 2007, 02:42 PM
QUOTE(Butkus51 @ Sep 13 2007, 12:16 PM)

Rumor at coaching school was said that if just 30 more schools have 5A numbers they are going to go to 6A
Since the UIL mandates that no more than the top 256 schools will be 5A and #257 will be in 4A, how can 30 more schools have 5A numbers???????
No more than 256 can have 5A numbers according to the UIL..... I think that they ought to know........
CNOrtega
Oct 6 2007, 10:34 PM
I think if the situation at US Steel (formerly Lone Star Steel) gets any worse, which it just might, then both Morris county schools could see a significant drop in enrollment. Probably will have a minimal effect this time around, but the 09-11 reallignment could see a big change.
sackem
Oct 17 2007, 05:03 AM
QUOTE(BeyondTheArc @ Sep 12 2007, 09:08 AM)

The reason why Tatum might not be too comfortable back in 3A is spelled GILMER!!
Gilmer would be big school.
Tatum small school.
sackem
Oct 17 2007, 05:13 AM
QUOTE(Duck208 @ Sep 29 2007, 11:12 PM)

Gives the enrollment breakdown for Oct. 2005 for each school.. But does not give the enrollment bottom and top for each classifaction.
OLD HAT
Oct 18 2007, 08:21 PM
BigRedFan
Oct 20 2007, 08:29 PM
According to a report in the Winnsboro News, WHS has 410 students down 4 from last year. Unless the numbers shift Winnsboro will stay 2A.
dualdellortos
Oct 22 2007, 07:57 AM
Having sat through the UIL open meetings yesterday (I was presenting a proposal), I listened to a couple of proponents of the new 5A big school/small school proposal speak. They were very well prepared and did a good job, however, the questions directed to them from the council lead me to believe it will NOT happen. If I was a betting man, that would be where my money would go.
Also, 3A spring football was proposed by the THSCA and that did not seem like it was very well-received either. I think 3A baseball and baseball teams making the play-offs make this an unlikely addition since there is so much sharing of athletes between these two sports at the 3A level. THSCA gave poll numbers from 3A football coaches showing that they favored it by a wide margin, but when they asked DW if 3A baseball coaches had been polled for their opinion, there were a number of chuckles and the tone seemed to be set.
marriedtoalegend
Oct 30 2007, 12:05 AM
If Winnsboro stays 2a they can expect to bring home quite a few more gold footballs and basketballs in they next few years. Maybe even a state title in a sport or
TWO.
Bowman
Oct 30 2007, 08:36 AM
What an idiot to suggest Gilmer would suspend students so they would not be 5a!!! Like the poster said above, Gilmer is a middle of the pack 3a, not even close to 4a!! I think they turned in somewhere around 700 students, that is 200 or so off of 4a numbers. People love to come on here and bash the ones winning. What a shame.
As for Longview - they turned in 2005. The 4a cutoff number last year was 1985. It will be close. I am curious if schools can petition to stay up like they could in the past. I have heard they can, then i heard they cannot do it anymore. If Longview is in 4a, there will be some games that will not be pretty to say the least.
The_Shamus
Nov 5 2007, 03:12 AM
QUOTE (Wild74 @ Sep 3 2007, 11:34 AM)

I hate to keep being negative, but Waskom has to many students in HS to drop to 1A. At last count they had about 229 students and unless 1A comes up about 25 Waskom will be at the bottom of 2A for a while. Garrison and Timpson has a good chance of dropping though.
Waskom is a 1a by 2 students the bottom end of 2a is 194 waskoms count was 192 so waskom can now prepare for teams like Mt. Enterprise, maud, tenaha, jouquin, lol there are alot of power houses in 1a so waskom will have to have a good off season o yea
DTH
ken-in-rockwall
Nov 5 2007, 03:35 PM
QUOTE (dfwfootballfan @ Sep 12 2007, 09:39 AM)

Royse City will be moving up unless the 4A number goes up quite a bit...but Royse City has never been 4A before. Rumor that Rockwall High School will be coming down to 4A and Rockwall Heath will be going up to 5A...
Rockwall and Rockwall-Heath will both be 4A. Rumored numbers are Rockwall 1924 and Rockwall Heath 1725.
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