I've been hearing rumors that Longview may go 4-A. Is there any truth in that?
If Longview goes 4A, anyone in thier district can go ahead and mark that game as a loss.

Will Tatum, Jefferson, Daingerfield go back to 3-A?

Will Sabine go 2-A?


Post your input on these questions.

Not trying to be rude or anything but there is a specific place for threads like this. Its on the main page with all the different categories.

I believe that's for the actual re-alignment. I just wanted to get everyone's opinion on a page that is viewed daily by smoaky users. This is a football topic as well.

Oh. Well I honestly think Sabine stays 3a. I was at the pep rally friday and it looked like there were more kids in the school than the past couple of years.

This will be the biggest shake-up in the history of the UIL because of the big school/small school classifications applying to the districts...there is no telling how the whole thing will turn out...you can bet there will be a lot of unhappy coaches and fans.

Sabine still has 395-400 in the High School. Could be the year they drop back down.


I'm not sure about Tatum, but all the reports I've been getting is that they will re-join the ranks of 3A

I've heard Daingerfield could go back up too, but I don't know their numbers...plus no one knows what the bottom of class 3A is going to be this go around. So, it will be interesting.

Any one know for sure what Winnsboro's enrollment was the first day of school. I have looked in the local paper and there has not been anything said about it.

I don't know if the UIL is going to change the numbers again but they might nudge them up again. Here is one for you tho.
It does not affect East Texas until the playoffs but Brownwood a top 10 4a team has an enrollment of 898 right now. Scary thought is they probably will drop to 3a. That will put some punch back in Region I.

I feel like this is the year that Sabine will drop down. If that happens, making the playoffs in our district won't be as easy. Hopefully Gilmer isn't back in our district. That would help us out a lot.

What about Longview? What has anyone heard on their enrollment situation.

Will Gilmer go up to 4A-if not by the numbers why not be like Dallas Carter and petition to play up in 4A. If memory serves me they blamed all the weak district teams for their 1st round loss-seems like they were not prepared for the playoffs because nobody in the district challenges them. People from Gilmer think they can play with any 5A team so why not petition to play up in 4A.

The Paris Wildcats might be dropping to 3A. The word on the street is they are around 915 students in the building.

This is ludicrous! Who exactly in Gilmer thinks they could play and compete in 5A? Why would anyone in Gilmer petition to play in 4A? Who in Gilmer blamed a weak district for their 1st round loss? We lost to the STATE CHAMPS in Liberty-Eylau, ENOUGH SAID! It doesn't matter if it was in the 1st round or the state championship game, we got beat!! I haven't heard a single person from Gilmer even mention a weak district as being the reason, nor any of these other things you mention. What LUNATIC were you talking to, or was this what YOU dreamed up? I think the latter! I live in Gilmer, attend all Buckeye games, and have NEVER heard anything like you mention. I don't think anyone from Gilmer would be that arrogant! Unless something drastic happens, Gilmer will continue to be 3A (about 650 students in high school puts them in the middle of the classification). Nobody I know of has any delusions of moving up a classification or two. You sure have lost validity in my eyes.
By the way, Dallas Carter petitioned to move up to 5A from 4A. It was either be a large 4A or small 5A school.

The state needs 6 classifications, 1A-6A. Lumping so many teams with around 1,000 students in 3A does not make sense.

The numbers will not change enough that Gilmer will be 4A. Unless alot of people move into Gilmer then it will still be a 3A school and I don't think anyone there would want to petitlion to go 4A.

word is that san augustine,garrison,timpson and possibly hemphill drop to class a. man sa would be a beast along with alto.

I think that's the whole purpose of reforming the districts that will be made up of big schools or small schools only. That should equalize the numbers much better. They did it in 6 man for an experiment and it went well.

Around 200 will be the cutoff for A

San Augustine had an enrollment of 315 at the last alignment. They have lost 115 students since then?
Hemphill was 291. They would have to lose about 91 students.

Garrison and Timpson are possible with enrollment slightly above 200

• QUOTE(wolfman @ Sep 11 2007, 09:56 AM)
  word is that san augustine,garrison,timpson and possibly hemphill drop to class a. man sa would be a beast along with alto.
  
  
  
  Just going by last realignment numbers for AA 196-412.5, Hemphill and SA would have had to lose alot of kids in two years. Dwindling enrollment at some of the bottom schools on the chart below will make for an interesting decision about cut off. Just a rise in the top number of class A would shifted quite a few schools into A, including several good ones.
  
  My guess would be a bottom number in AA of around 200 which would be a rise from last realignment numbers of 5 students.
  
  2006 Realignment numbers for each AA East Texas district

Alba-Golden 222

Como-Pickton 234

Grand Saline 321

Hawkins 199.5

Quitman 372

Winnsboro 409



Daingerfield 406

Hooks 366

Hughes Springs 304.5

Linden-Kildare 241.5

New Boston 412

Omaha Pewitt 297

Queen City 350.5

Redwater 370



Big Sandy 198

Big Sandy Harmony 322

Diana New Diana 294

Gladewater Union

Grove 251

Harleton 207

Jefferson 389.5

Ore City 224.5

Winona 293



Arp 298.5

Elysian Fields 311

Garrison 201.5

West Rusk 224

Tatum 394

Timpson 202

Troup 309

Waskom 223



Blooming Grove 293

Corsicana Mildred 208

Frankston 236

Italy 197

Kerens 198.5

Malakoff 364.5

Rice 198



Buffalo 234

Centerville 225

Elkhart 373

Jewett Leon 223

Marlin 410

Mart 212

Riesel 197

Teague 385.5



Corrigan-Camden 312.5

Hemphill 291

Central Heights 215

Newton 349.5

San Augustine 316

Shelbyville 230

Woden 254.5

Woodville 377



Anahuac 402

Buna 412.5

Deweyville 237

Hardin 369

Kountze 398.5

Warren 301

Winnie East Chambers 339

A lot can happen in a perios of one year with the numbers. It is really too early to tell. When it gets a little closer you might be able to be a little more certain. Just not right now.

Gilmer is in a weak district anyway. They should be LE's district so they can get some competition. However, I'm glad that they have been in our district so that we would never had to have meet them in the playoffs.

Gladewater- Not able to hang with gilmer in the last 4 years
Sabine- Will never beat Gilmer
Mineola- Hasn't been good enough since 2001 to beat Gilmer
White Oak- Wouldn't have had a chance
Spring Hill- Not able to hang with gilmer in the last 6 years

What are the district guide line numbers for each rating? 1A ishow many students, 2A is how many students and so on? Where can I get this information?

Do you realize that if Gilmer were in that district and made the playoffs, they would always be Division II. I don't see a whole lot of changes being made in the 3A classification (as far as the numbers) except with who is in what district. Nearly every district gets a big shakeup every realignment. Gilmer could very well BE in the same district with Liberty-Eylau, Atlanta, Pittsburg, Pleasant Grove, Mt. Vernon, etc. - all or part of 16AAA. I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Longview around 2,100 right now.They will stay 5-A.

last numbers as of this year was that garrison was below 200 they will be in class a ,they also will be a power in class a if they can just get past this year ,they have good younger class that will be very good.

What are the district guide line numbers for each rating? 1A ishow many students, 2A is how many students and so on? Where can I get this information?

No one can ever guess what the UIL will do with each new allignment. The one constant has been the numbers for each classification have gone up with the last several Re-Alignment. The numbers for each classification in the last allignment were as follows:

Class 5A-1,985 membership and above 246 schools
Class 4A-950-1,984 membership range 229 schools
Class 3A-415-949 membership range 174 schools
Class 2A-195-414 membership range 221 schools
Class 1A- 194 and below membership 149 eleven-man football schools; 118 six-man football schools

Yea i didn't think Longview would actually go 4-A. That is a terrible rumor.

Paris to 3A wonder how long its been since that happened??

when do they take the number to decide re-alignment....is it beginning of the year...middle or end of year?

Garrison lost over 116 students in 2 years? That's over 1/3 of their students. What happen?

I would think it happens in the next month or so..............

The report date is Oct 20-something(I'm sure of the exact date)

Garrison has never had 316 students. They normally have around 220 or so. I think they are still sittng around 200 or so now.

Word on the street has it that the state threw out bunches of Garrison's transfers. They do not have enough minority enrollment to allow white transfers any longer. The transfer rule does not apply to students who have a parent that works in the district. It doesn't account for all of the enrollment drop but it does account for some of it. Same thing happened to Central Heights a few years back.

not sure if its the 20th but it is in October sometime

Better check your sources. Garrison has not really lost that many. The most schools in the area enrollment is down.

how do they decide whos in what district????? Sure hope Cooper doesnt get redwater again... man what a drive

What ever doesn't make the most sense is how they decide. It should get you one in the win column though.

I was thinking of SA. Garrison's #'s are low enough that it wouldn't take much of a drop to reach A.

SA is a whole different story!

Don't put Redwater down as an automatic win just yet. The Dragons are better this year than in the past. Pay particular attention to the junior varsity squad- they have the potential to be one of the top jv programs in the area. This group of kids is accustomed to winning since they were in youth football. In their only game so far the JV squad tied Texas High JV 6-6. The varsity has also showed much improvement since last season and won their only game so far against Foreman, AR 34-12. Redwater is going to surprise some folks this year.

What a Merry Christmas it would be if Daingerfield and New Boston joined Liberty-Eylau, Atlanta, Pittsburg, Pleasant Grove, Mt. Vernon in 16-3A. Six district games would be a nice change from six non-district games.

I wouldn't get excited about Daingerfield moving up just yet. The last number I saw for them was only 379.

And we lost 3 more kids to the HS school district on Monday. With Lone star steel shutting down departments, it could be alot more for us.

I saw the Foreman game and Foreman turned the ball over twice going in to score. Foreman is way down this year also. Redwater has a hard time competeing in AA they just don't seem to have the # of kids come out that a school of that size should. JMO I'm not trying to down Redwater I actually attended school there (before they had football) and then moved to Foreman to play football.

My source was an administrator at the school. Like I said, it doesn't count for all the drop in enrollment but it would account for some.

I hope so. To me there is nothing better than to see a HS team rise to a competitive level
and "surprise" other teams.

They cant accept transfers from certain other districts for this reason. There was some revoked but not for that reason.

I know things are tough in Daingerfield. My Christmas wish was based on the enrollment
that determined the last realignment. At that time I think DF missed 3A by only 6-8 students?


At any rate good luck to the Tigers. I'd still like to see an old rivalry established with the Rabbs
whether it be district play or non-district. Same for New Boston.

Is there any word on the new post numbers for this year? I heard there is going to be a lot of changes next season.

Still another month or so until the UIL count.