Whos the guys team to beat this year? Whitehouse is looking pretty strong...only losing 5 matches total in 2 Team matches their top three boys seem almost unstoppable in singles...although they are having trouble finding how to bong in doubles they (two matches lost in doubles) they should have that figure out in no time!

They may be the strongest in 12-4A, but I doubt they would win 5 (out of 6 single & 3 doubles) against Texas High. They continue to be stout.

Love too see it!!!! Cause i played against texas high last year and they were OVERRATED!!! they had two good singles guys and im pretty sure one graduated and whitehouse's top three would probably pick texas high apart...like i said it would be a good GUYS side of the team match to see...girls would be texas high although the whitehouse girls teams is improving they are still young!...like i said love to see maybe they can get together and play!

Texas High might have lost Andy but they have gained Grant, a very competitive, very experienced freshman that is filling in the #2 spot nicely. Grant is about where Andy and Daniel were as freshman, and will continue to improve as he gets older and bigger. What makes Texas High guys so great, though, is their depth. While they may have several newcomers on the varsity line-up, i wouldn't be so sure that they are overrated this year without seeing them first. The guys are just as good, maybe even better, than last year's team. Whitehouse's top three MAYBE could "pick apart" the lower players on the THS line-up but there is no way they are going to "pick apart" Texas's top 3 players.

"it would be a good GUYS side of the team match to see" Texas High is a level above anyone in 12-4A

That was funny

How did you do last year? Daniel Moser has been to state twice. In an ethical team tennis match it is #1 vs #1, 2 vs 2, and so forth. With the except of Highland Park last year, no one beat the Texas High boys. I think Wichita Falls High beat the Texas High boys this year and they are ranked in the top 5 in the state.

Not saying Whitehouse boys are not a good high school squad, but would be surprised if they could hang with Texas High.

The only time I can remember Texas High playing Whitehouse was in the 1st round of regionals when Jessica Wente was a freshman. I think Texas High won, 10-4 or so. They had some strong girls, but no guys at the time.

Wow...aren't you a confident one?
I SERIOUSLY doubt Whitehouse could hang with the Texas High boy's. #1 boy's dubs has gone undefeated thus far beating(Corsicana, WF Old High, Amarillo Tascosa 5a, Frisco, Midway, Nach, Center). The only lose #2 dubs had this year was against the 5a Amarillo Tascosa, when they put their #1 and #3 in #2 dubs because they lost earlier in the day.
As far as singles goes the #1, #2, #3 and #4 boys haven't dropped a match yet. So let's not go around saying the THS guys "overrated", just because you had an ok match with a #2 team last year. This year is completely different.

um wow..... You must have been looking at texas high's JV if you say they were overrated. Center has one of the best boys team in AAA, including the 2nd and 3rd ranked players in the region. and we were only able to get 2 matches on the boys side. Dan Moser and grant are both insane players. I doubt moser has even lost a match this year. Not to be braggin too much on Texas high mind you, but I really don't see whitehouse coming close to beating them.

Well i seen whitehouse play and i have to say there top 3 guys are pretty inpressive...not to metion there one doubles team beat nac's one doubles team with there number one player being injured...and with him in good health he should be playing alot stronger! and who are you saying the number two and three person in the region is...look at RYAN YBARRA...first off he would kill any texas high player and anyone from center...then we could go with ben wallace keith harfield richard corbyan nick (from van) i mean there all good players who i know have beaten some center guys in tounrys...not to mention shawn sexton had wins over center last year too right along with gus from nac...i know those are last year but to say you have the 2 and 3 players in a region is redicoulos...I with DUB i think it would be a good guys side to watch!

Ummm...apparently you need to do your research before you trash talk Texas High OR Center.

First of all: Center competes in UIL 3A Region 3 and Texas High competes in UIL 4A Region 2. And reffering to your statement: "who are you saying who number two and three person in the region is": Center's Gavin Ybarra and Jeremy Noble ARE the 2 and 3 players behind Robinson's Tucker Mueck in 3A Region 3 (unofficially, that is. but I do agree with Rider about their ranking). You however are not thinking about their region, you are thinking about 4A Region 2 in which both Whitehouse and Texas High compete in.

Second of all: RYAN YBARRA doesn't even go to a school who participates in UIL so why did you even bring him up? Neither does Ben Wallace. And Ben Wallace is no where near the level of Texas High's top guys...along with the rest of the names you mentioned (that is excluding ryan). I don't even understand why you brought these guys up.

And third of all: "DUB" said the Texas High vs. Whitehouse match would be a good guys side to watch. AND "to say you have the 2 and 3 players in a region" IS NOT "rediculous" because the person who said it wasn't even talking about Texas High! They were talking about Center!!

OK I could probably find some more things so wrong about that post but I'll stop.

Please have a little Respect. You can't deny that Texas High's guys team is an elite team with very strong players on top and very solid players the rest of the way down. They have depth. A lot of depth. And although some other guys teams have several good players, it's rare to find very good players deep in the line up like Texas High has constantly produced. And just because there are better guys TEAM is better doesn't lessen the talent or ability of your top guys. I don't see the need of getting all offensive over a couple of reasonable, and innocent, comments.

Until Whitehouse beats a good boys team this year, like Texas High, Tyler Lee, or even Lindale or Corsicana, they aren't going to get a lot of respect on a public forum. Beating Nac's #1 doubles team is not saying a whole lot this year. They have Ballinger, but after that they are unproven. Other than 12-4A teams, who has Whitehouse played and beaten that is good? Everyone would love to see some results against some good boys.

well if you reffering to the 3a region then yes...they maybe but you dont have any ranking to prove so and i love to see ben wallace play a texas high guy or with gavin ybarra im pretty sure he can keep it close considering he is 16...

well i gotta say i went and saw the whitehouse guys doubles team play and they are pretty raw

Since your so concerned with proven rankings, then lets look at Ben Wallace's rankings verses Texas High's top 2 guys' rankings..

-Ben Wallace is ranked 199 with the USTA in the Boys 16s in the Texas Section.
-Daniel Moser (17 year old; Texas High #1) is currently ranked 60 in the Boys 18s in the entire Southern Section.
-Grant Adams (14 year old; Texas High #2) is ranked 204 in the boys 16s in the Southern Section and ranked 51 in the boys 14s in the Southern Section (not to mention ranked 404 in the nation in b14s by USTA).

Those are USTA rankings. I could break out tennisrecruiting.net's rankings and make even more of a statement (Ben is ranked 1087 nationally in his class while Daniel is ranked 204 nationally in his class).

Now Ben might could give Gavin a close run but you are seriously underestimating the talent of Texas' top boys if you think Ben could beat them. These boys would both be very highly ranked superchamps in their divisions if they played in Texas.

Let's let the ranking speak for themselves.
I have seen Daniel and Grant completely destroy Center's top 2 and give them some credit Center has one of the best guy's teams in 3a. Woah! You beat Nach's 1 dubs team...that's great...considering ballinger's shoulder is bad and his partner is nowhere on the same level as him. I along with bulldog would love to see some legitimate results against solid boys teams.

haha why dont you get RYAN YBARRA rank in there and throw that around...umm 55 in the nation!

2007 Recruiting: 55 (10/2)
TennisRPI: 44 (1/4)
2006 Recruiting: 103 (12/19)
TennisRPI: 31 (10/26)
2005 Recruiting: 111 (3/15)
TennisRPI: 61 (3/17)
2004 Recruiting: 77 (4/13)
TennisRPI: 68 (12/30)

Colleges interested:
Arizona
Indiana
LSU
Pepperdine
Texas A&M
USC
UC Santa Barbara
Texas
New Mexico
Penn State

So i have to say All Saints boys team looks pretty good right now! Easily taking Texas High number one...and not to metion i think Ryans little brother Stefan Ybarra could easily take Texas Highs number one ....hes 13 years old and 986 in the nation...since were throwing around ranks

Here are Daniel Mosers National Ranks:

WEEKLY RANKINGS
Recruiting Lists
National: 204
Gulf States: 24
Texas: 19
TennisRPI: 165
Sched. Strength: 203

HIGHEST RANKINGS
2007 Recruiting: 146 (5/29)
TennisRPI: 51 (4/19)
2006 Recruiting: 152 (10/10)
TennisRPI: 61 (11/16)
2005 Recruiting: 290 (10/11)
TennisRPI: 306 (9/22)
2004 Recruiting: 440 (5/18)
TennisRPI: 299 (7/22)

I am confused are you talking about Whitehouse or All Saints? I noticed All Saints boys lost to Tyler Lee 5-4 in a match in September per the Tyler paper. Now I would not be surprised if Mr Ybara could beat Mr Moser. But team tennis is 6 singles matches and 3 doubles matches. It appears to me the bottom of All Saints lineup could be a problem. It has been a while since Texas High played Tyler Lee in team tennis.

It would be an interesting match but unfortunately Texas High would not benefit in the Regional seedings by playing All Saints.

Well since the forums about ALL HIGH SCHOOL BOYS TEAMS...my last two post have been about all saints

I gave Ryan his credit and I am very aware of how good he is considering I've seen him play on several different occasions. And I also never said Daniel could beat him, I said Daniel could beat Ben Wallace and every other guy mentioned in whatever post I was referring to. I just did't understand, and still don't understand why he was mentioned in response to a post about Texas High and Whitehouse. That's cool Ryan could beat Daniel, but Whitehouse still couldn't beat Texas High so get over it.

Well just in case any of you are interested, Center will be playing All Saints this Saturday, so we will see how it turns out. And something that everyone seems to overlook is the fact that Gavin isn't our only good player. The other three in our top four have ALL beaten Gavin on several occasions. The top 4 boys from Center are all on the exact same level. I've playing # 3 spot all year and have lost 1 singles match, in three sets. Justin Clark, our #4, has lost 2 matches. And all of these were to 4A and 5A schools. This Saturday I'll be playing #1 spot and Jeremy Noble and Justin Clark will play today to see who's 3 and 4. Both have beaten each other this year. I know this was a little off topic, but I'm just really tired of people thinking Gavin is our only weapon. And oh yeah, Texas High beat us, we beat Nacogdoches and Nacogdoches beat Whitehouse.....

despite the fact that the whitehouse girls team has had trouble getting off the ground this year their boys have had little trouble disposing of the teams they come in contact with. there number one boys double team made short work ballenger and clardy and i see no reason why they wouldnt do the same to center or texas high. not to mention their top three singles players dont seem to have a problem wielding a racket either.

This seems to be the problem. According to the online tennis schedule, Whitehouse doesn't play on Saturdays. The only people they play are in their district(on Tuesdays). They haven't played any exceptional boys this year. All the schools in this district that are usually really strong, are all very young and rebuilding on the boys side. Jacksonville lost about 5 senior boys, Nac's #2 boy this year was like #5 or #6 last year, Kilgore has 5 sophomores in its top 6, Henderson lost all but 1 of their boys, and Pine Tree lost all but 2 of their boys.

Whitehouse lost three seniors last year. Whitehouse's top three players moved up from the # 3,4,5 spots last year. It seems that they are rebuilding too, maybe they are better at it than everybody else is because the top three boys still win their matches after moving up from some of the bottom spots.

"Whitehouse lost three seniors last year. Whitehouse's top three players moved up from the # 3,4,5 spots last year. It seems that they are rebuilding too, maybe they are better at it than everybody else is because the top three boys still win their matches after moving up from some of the bottom spots."


They only lost 2 senior boys and 1 senior girl. That's not rebuilding. Corbyn was #2 when we played yall last year. Better than everyone else at rebuilding? Whitehouse is 2-3, only beating the 0-5 teams of Hallsville and Henderson. See yall next week.

Hah. I guess they diposed of us so well then, eh?

When we played it out with Nach our score was 18-1...only because we lost the mixed in which they put both of their ones in.
Then in our tournament it was officially 10-1...and the #1 boys dub team had no problem with Ballenger and Clardy...now if it would have been clardy's graduated brother I could see where we might run into some trouble...that kid could serve out of tree!...as for Center's dubs team...I don't think they would have any trouble beating nach's #1 dubs team either...they are solid and have played our #1 boys very close.

Center is a really good tennis team. You guys should do really well. I remember playing my first ZAT ever when I was like 11 or 12 and Gavin was there, haha. But Gavin is really good, but Center is so deep, im sure the others are close too.

Goodluck to you guys.


-The Pack Kid-

Whitehouse played Kilgore tonight, and Kilgore won 7 out of 9 boys matches. Many of them were close matches. Whitehouse won the #1 singles 10-8 in a third set super tiebreak, and their #5 singles won 8-5. Kilgore won the rest of the singles, and all doubles.

from what i could tell from the match it looked like whitehouse cared little knowing that they werent going to make it to regionals in team tennis and they looked like they had the mind set of lets come out and have fun and fool around...which WAS NOT the right mind set at all...i also know the number one on the team is still battling a back injury and a pulled muscle in is stomach...well the number two was battle a back pains and a pulled groin...no those are no excuses but they werent playing at 100 percent! Best of luck to Kilgore!!!

Wha do yall think of Center's team this year. We lost state doubles champs Arjun and Tyler, the no. 1 and 3 spot, but we were all close anyway. were obviously hurting on the girls side. we beat Nac 10-9 and split win/loss with Van got spanked by Texas High but who doesn't

Also a Reminder Gavin and Jeremy beat Nac with Gavin's foot being BROKEN and had set points against Texas High no. 1 dubs with the BROKEN foot(not trying to take anything away from Texas High but i'm trying to prove a point). And i have played players from Whitehouse many times. Corbyn is a really good player and can be a threat in any draw. I have no idea who else is on the team now cause they all graduated. We beat the Kilgore dubs team and Kilgore beat Whitehouse in dubs. But no one knows for sure who would win in team tennis so why don't we play each other and find out?

Having played both teams, there really is no comparison. Center and Kilgore are pretty close in talent this year, with Center's boys being a little stronger, and Kilgore's girls being a little stronger. Kilgore beat Whitehouse 17-2, and the 2 losses were in the boys singles side. Center would pretty much dominate the match....no offense to Whitehouse.

Just to throw it in there...the center guys were the only ones until corsicana to get set points on us (corsicana got a set on a court where the net was 2 feet high) ...they were playing solid when we played them last, but im pretty sure his foot wasn't broken way back a month or so when we played center...he was moving way to well in singles against dan to have a broken foot....that sucks though...it probably wont hurt yall that bad..youve got plenty of depth to smash anybody in 3a atleast on the guys side.

I think we play yall this sat and then we play tyler lee in the afternoon.
The guys should be able to hold our own against lee...the girls are a different story

Don't underestimate Lee's boys side. All their boys are champ or superchamp. Their girls are not that strong, except their number 1.

Good luck with those. I'm sure the girls need it more than you though. I'm coming out to watch on sat when i'm not busy. Is the Center match at 8 or 10? And then what time is Lee? Oh and just let me know if you need me to bring you lunch again

I'm really looking forward to playing texas high tomorrow and was hoping to put up a better fight than before, but I doubt that's going to happen on the girl's side as we're missing 4 of our top 6. We have our #'s 1 and 2. Boy's doubles should be close. Gavin won't be playing a singles this time. Last time we only won two matches on the boys side. Ya'lls guys are really deep. My singles went to three sets and I barely managed to pull it out. I don't remember what the score was in our #3 doubles, but we got stomped in everything else. I'll be playing moser this time, and Jeremy will be playing Grant for like the 3rd time in a row.

It sucks that I won't be playing Moser, but doubles will be a fun match for us. Also against Lee I think that Moser and tucker will be a good match but Moser will eventually come out on top. The Bulls girl is awesome in singles and doubles so she will be fun to watch. Also, I haven't heard anything from
Whitehouse in a while so whats the deal?

When we played Lee last Saturday, Tucker played #2. One of the Martel triplets(freshman) was playing #1. It may have changed back by now. I was suprised to see Tucker at the #2 spot.

By no means am I underestimating Lee...They have some great guys and so do we...with the exception of bulls I think we may have slighty better girls than them but I have no idea...if you have seen us play you know our girls aren't the talk of the town
It should be an interesting matchup...especially if their coach keeps her in mixed like I've heard from other people.

We just finished up playing Center earlier is was...

THS 21
Center 0

The extra 2 matches were #4 boy's doubles and #7 boy's singles.

Tyler Lee canceled at the last minute because they supposively didn't have enough people to make the trip.

Lee's no. 1 is James Martel, the best of the triplets. I played him at the Hope Open in March in the 2nd round and HE IS BAD-A AT TENNIS!!! It was an intense match that i barely pulled out 6-4,7-6 and he was 13 AT THE TIME!!! His 2 other brothers play tennis but don't have the same drive as James. I don't think James can hang with Moser, but I haven't seen him play all summer. Grant could possibly have a close match with Tucker though. That And Whitehouse does have a good player, unlike everyone thinks-Richard Corbyn, who beat me in the final in three sets.

The Following was the regular fall season record of the Texas High boys in Singles in matches completed was 85-9. In the Region II tournament the boys went 14-1. As noted on another thread the boys did not complete any matches against Highland Park. Total results 99-10. In 19 team matches the lost less than .5 a boys single match.

In the HP match were the boys up in any matches that were on the court still?

I think Moser was up on Stevens 2-1 but it just looked like Stevens was only trying to hold serve and stall until their girls could sweep (which is probably what anyone would do..especially with their girls)...we were only able to put on #5 boys singles before time was called...and I think hp was up in that match