Freshmen Fabio Chavez from Palestine received All-Region Goalkeeper Honors in Region 3.

Others that made it from the East Texas area:
BOYS
David Fincher-Pine Tree (All Region and All State)
Elijah Shipman-Lindale (All Region)
Enoch Shipman-Lindale (All Region)
Fabio Chavez-Palestine (All Region)
Cesar Cadena-REL (All Region and All State)
Kenny Conner-REL (All Region)
GIRLS
Jennifer Weeks-Longview (All Region and All State)
Maddie Fraser-Lindale (All Region and All State)
Sarah Bradley-Longview (All Region and All State)
Ashley Alfaro-Lindale (All Region)
Giselle Rios-Longview (All Region and All State)
Chelsea Grimes-Eustace (All Region)
Emily Phelps-Pine Tree (All Region)
Kaitlyn Kelm-Lindale (All Region and All State)
Diana Martinez-Pine Tree (All Region)
Chris Yoder-Longview (Region II Coach of the Year)

What about Jordan Norris from Lindale - didn't see his name. Surely that was an oversight!

Norris wasn't voted onto the all-region team.

How do you know this? Where is the list posted...

This must be top secret stuff because I haven't found it either. I haven't seen anything on TASCO which is where I would think it would be released first.

I received an email from Tasco and certain people are supposed to email it out from my understanding.

you can email me at jabsalom@palestineschools.org and I can give you what I have.

Congratulations to all those players from East texas that made all region.

A board member received a copy of the all-region teams. Apparently thinking that she was supposed to forward it, she did. It was merely being sent out for proof purposes. The official all-region and all-state teams will not be made public until the board votes to confirm the teams as the official teams.

Innocent mistake. Probably cost the boardmember an arm or maybe their firstborn. We are studying the by-laws to determine if those are sufficient punishments.

wait.. so this is the list for sure?

Sounds like it's just a formality at this point. Normally this is announced on the TASCO website first.

That's insane if Norris wasn't chosen for all region at least.

shouldnt kulak be on all region to?

Yes he is on the all-region team. I think Sandman just missed him.

Probably did. Been on allergy meds the last couple of days.

haha understandable. just making sure

you think thats crazy...there are ZERO players from MP on this team!!!

mp beat longview twice (LV has 3 players on there) and pushed lindale to the brink when everyone thought the eagles would blast MP.

i guess they just pick seniors over a group of freshman sophomores and juniors.

however, idk if he is a jr or senior but nelson zayala (sp?) should be on there!

Hey steve,

Have you ever seen a MP player on the all-region team. I think not so I guess the coach never puts his players up or they have something against MP.

You have to be a member of TASCO to vote or nominate. Unfortunately not enough coaches in east texas are members so players that should have gotten votes didnt. Players like 3 from Lakeview Centennial (5th in district) and 3 from Little Elm got picked over Norris and Humberto Rios from Longview. Its unfortunate that alot of the good players were not picked. However, the ones that did get picked from this area were deserved.

Longview doesnt have any players on there. Pinetree does. Nelson is a senior.

yea...i overlooked the all caps word that says...GIRLS. (thats embarrassing) but i can admit when i'm wrong.

and did adam gonzales not make all region two years ago? or clint foster in '06? i really am not sure

Assuming he was nominated by his coach (and I can't imagine why he wouldn't be), then the coaches in the region who failed to vote him in as, at a minimum, all region should have their heads examined. And, for Lindale, whose sole loss on the year was in the regional final against the team that lost in the state championship, not to have at least one of their star players (Norris or either or both of the Shipman twins) is a travesty. It's hard to take those all state selections seriously.

I agree. Norris is a very good soccer player. However, only coaches in this region that are TASCO members are allowed to vote for their region and classification (i.e. 4a Region II). Therefore, if most members are in Frisco and Dallas that would explain why players from Little Elm, Frisco Centennial, and Frisco Wakeland got all the votes over the east texas players. If there is only 7 defenders nominated and you are suppose to pick 8 all get picked. Thats why some got in and some didnt. Until the coaches in this area become members of TASCO, those boys like Norris and Guillermo torres will not get the recognition they deserve.

building on the topic of few East Texas coaches being TASCO members

I'm curious as to how many ET coaches are and are not members of TASCO. If there is a high # of non members my best guess would be that most of those are football coaches coaching soccer. If that's true then you're not going to be able to fix very many of those issues. Not saying FB coaches coaching soccer don't care about their kids or do the best they can so don't jump on me about that comment. My guess is most true FB first coaches aren't attending TASCO soccer clinics and may not even know what TASCO stands for.

Norris was nominated. Deserving or not, he did not finish in the top eight vote getters

So obviously you have to go really deep in the playoffs to make all region? Too bad for the few really good ones that play for a bad school team. They get nothing!

Not True. The Palestine team did not go very deep in the playoffs and their keeper won an award.

Anyone know where he is planning on going to school?

Lakeview Centennial finished 5th in district, didnt make the playoffs, and they got three on the all region list.

True. I think a similar thing as you outline occurred on the girls side.




I also understand a Eustace girl made all region - amazing.

Didn't really think he wasn't nominated. So, how in the world does he not finish in the top 8? I couldn't see it if he failed to make the top 4, much less the top 8. I presume then that coaches just must not have seen him play, because if they saw him play it's a no-brainer. I guess it's a flawed system and coaches, particularly in ETX, need to get more involved and know players better.

Amazingly, the word is he isn't going to play in college. Probably will go to TJC - maybe Clements will convince him to play there and that might get him the bug again.

This is a paste of a post from the East Texas All-State post. Hope it helps explain why some people get recognition and others don't.


Here is the breakdown for Region 2 - Girls 4A and the Region 2 - Boys 4A


There are 69 girls teams in the region and 72 boys teams.

This allows for 207 possible nominations for the girls and 216 for the boys if all coaches are members of TASCO and submit three players for the All-Region/All-State Team. Unfortunately not everyone is a member, or they do not submit/vote for players.

For the 2009 season, the Region 2-4A girls ballot includes the following nominations:

6 Defenders
10 Forwards
13 Midfielders
4 Goalkeepers

and the boys:

7 Defenders
10 Forwards
4 Goalkeepers
14 Midfielders


Those who vote MUST select:

8 Defenders
8 Forwards
8 Midfielders
4 Goalkeepers


Therefore, all of the defenders and goalkeepers will be at least all-region. The players who receive the top two number of votes are chosen for All-State. Since all of these players will all receive the same number of votes, the All-State title will go to the player whose team advanced the farthest in the playoffs.

Of the 69 schools that have girls soccer, only 14 schools nominated players. Of the fourteen programs, seven schools nominated the maximum of three players, five schools nominated two players and two schools nominated one.

Of the 72 schools that have boys soccer, only 13 schools nominated players. Eleven of the schools nominated the maximum of three players, with the other two only nominating one each.

Why would a coach not take the time to do this? What a rip-off for the kids.

Wow that is amazing that a player from the Eustace girls team made all-region!!! They finished at the bottom in our district.

My understanding is that several coaches joined together and voted for each others players. I know the votes for this district were split down boundaries. One side voted together - the other side voted independent. Voting this way only hurts the players but makes the coaches look good to have players make the list. Fair - NO. But who said life is fair.

He cant get a All region vote but Props to Guillermo Torres for making East texas proud. Good Luck. Longview Loves Ya!!!

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The U.S. U-20 National Team will convene in Florida for a camp in late May which includes two friendlies against the Costa Rican U-20 side.
The squad for the friendlies is headlined by FC Dallas players with five. Chivas USA contributes two, and the Houston Dynamo and Toronto FC each add one to round out Major League Soccer's contribution.

Three players are attached to clubs outside of the United States, one is out of contract and the rest come from college ball with one exception.

Guillermo Torres, who is the younger brother of Pachuca and U.S. star Jose Torres, is still in high school in Longview, Texas.

I agree totally!!

If you would have read my earlier post, you could stop throwing out conspiracy theories and realize that there were only six defenders nominated in the region. There are a total of eight defender positions available. Therefore, the player from Eustace was an automatic All-Region selection, just like the other defenders. They all received the same number of votes. No taking sides or anything else.

Eagle 88, this comment was about our All-District selections not All-Region!!! Baseballfan was replying to my comment that they finished last in our district and received superlative honors also. I read your earlier post and after doing so I understood the All-Region nominations process.

His comment is in fact absolutely true about our districts All-District nominations this year.

First, this post concerns All-Region and not All-District. In addition, your post and baseball's post comment on the Eustace girl receiving All-Region, not All-District. But if you need clarification on what happened at the district meeting, I can also help you understand why your daughter didn't receive the superlative you may feel she deserved. If you have any questions that you want to ask, message me and I will do my best.

I did not get a chance to see the Eustice girls play this year so I don't know the girl. Just because the team did not have a winning season does not mean an individual player is not deserving of recognition because they play on a weaker team.

Eagle88 you are taking this way too far!!! I know this topic is about All-Region and thats what my original posts concerned!! I need no clarification on the district coaches All-District picks because I know what happened! As far as my daughter is concerned I have NEVER mentioned anything on any post anywhere about my daughter not receiving or deserving a superlative in district this year, and I feel she got exactly what she deserved!!! I need no one to help me understand why my daughter didn't receive a superlative this year because I know why, I watch every minute that she plays of every game and believe me when she doesnt play up to her potential I am the first one to say so!!

I take absolutely nothing away from the Eustace players at all and feel they are very deserving of any honor they receive, what I said in my post was due to my ill knowledge of the voting process for All-Region and was clarified by your post on the All-Region voting rules.

That's true, but, having watched Eustace play a couple of times this year, there was no one on that team who should be All Region. It's only because of the lack of nominations that it happened (see Eagle88's explanation earlier). That said, congrats to her any way.

I think that it is ridiculous for some of you to get on here and devalue the accomplishment of a young person. The voting process nor the lack of nominations should be aired on a public forum. Shame on you and anyone else for trying to take that away. In 10 years you nor anyone else on this board will rememeber this list, but she will.

No one is trying to devalue anything, just explain why some people or schools had players on the list while others didn't. Get whatever you can for your kids. It is awesome that they will have that memory, but I am just explaining why it happens.

Just know that the system has its faults and the only way to rectify it is for coaches to be members of Tasco. And, For coaches to vote the way they should that isnt biased. So far from what ive seen one girl didnt get all region and she is a national pool player. Another player, not saying names, is trying out for the USA U20s and he didnt get picked. So, it is what it is. Now we move on to next year....

Look, if it didn't raise eyebrows that the state champs (girls) didn't have a single player on the all region or all state list, that would be turning a blind eye. I think the numbers of teams who actually had nominations was ridiculously low. Not trying to "devalue the accomplishment" or take anything away (don't have that authority or desire), but reality is reality. Once again, congrats to her for her accomplishment and her coach for taking the time to be a member and nominate her, but also shame on those who either aren't memmbers or don't make the effort for their kids.

your buddy at lindale finally nominated players because when he was at jacksonville he didn't nominate any of us and wasn't a member. i guess the parents at lindale finally put some pressure on him. must be a lot of coaches in east texas that dont nominate and that is plan sorry if you ask me.