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8 hours of after school practice per UIL 3 hours after practice to supervise locker rooms 3 hours after locker rooms are clear for offense/defensive meetings and laundry duty 2-3 hours on Wednesday painting the game field and/or practice field 3 - 5 hours on Thursdays for Sub-Varsity games 8 hours on Friday Nights for travel, games and locker room clean up 7-8 hours on Saturday for film, laundry and meetings 6 hours on Sunday for game planning, practice preparation 8-10 hours film study outside the school day It adds up real quick. If you don't think football coaches work 50 hours a week outside the school day then you are sadly mistaken.

This is a pretty standard schedule. You can cut some time out in certain areas. Rotate laundry duty, locker room duty. More people are going to turf fields so might not have to paint. (I actually know of some coaches that a turf field is a must in looking for jobs for the extra time alone.) Maybe shave some time if your coordinators are making assistants do all the grunt work of laundry by themselves. While time saving that never leads to a good staff cohesion, and most small schools don't have "lead assistants". They just do everything. Play action has explained a ton but I'll dive into the standard weekend schedule. Friday: Spot on by Play action. Get the kids home. Get them out. Get laundry soaked and started. Film has to upload, clips have to be cut together. Film part is a 1 person job but its probably ready to go by midnight to 1. Saturday: Previous games film has to be graded and marked up. If kids are coming in on Saturday to watch it, that has to be done before. So typically sometime between 1AM and 9AM the film is ready to go. Approximately a 2 hour process. Maybe more maybe less depending on position and how the night went. So stay up until 3 or get to work 6 hours later. Lift, recovery run, and go over film with players gone between 11-12. From 12-2 its time to look at the next opponent. Data has to be put in to the clips and a scouting report made. Reports are ran film is studied. Go home find some time to watch film on your own to be ready to make a game plan the next day. Sunday: Meet after church and lunch, typically 2. Discuss what is being seen in the opponent. Formulate game plan. Does anything need to be changed? Anything new installed? How will they adjust to us how do we have to adjust to them? By 3 hopefully your plan is set now practice plan for the week. Drills, adjustments, plays. Draw up cards for your scout team to get aligned right. All of the offenses run plays. All of their pass plays. All of the defenses alignments. Final scouting report ready to be sent to the kids on Sunday or Monday. Leave when the jobs done. This is about as standard as it gets. More staffs are working from home on Saturday at the expense of not bringing the kids up. Just like before, you can maybe shave a couple hours off but not much. Keep in mind this is about as efficient as it gets for an average size staff. Smaller staffs will pull more weight.

I will break it down for you like this. Monday and Tuesday - 14 hours In the locker room at 3:45, on the field at 4, practice starts at 4:15, off the field at 7:15. Locker room empty and all kids left the premises b by 7:45. Put in laundry and watch practice film, flip laundry, discuss personnel and scheme and plan tomorrows practice, out of the field house by 8:45. Me personally, I go home and take care of what is left to do at home after my wife has taken care of the majority of the household chores. After everyone is in bed, I watch at least another hour of two of film. Wednesday - 7 hours In the locker room at 3:45, on the field at 4, practice starts at 4:15, off the field at 6:15. Locker room empty and all kids left the premises b by 6:45. Put in laundry and paint the game field. Watch practice film, flip laundry, discuss personnel and scheme. Out oft he field house at 8:45. Me personally, I go home and take care of what is left to do at home after my wife has taken care of the majority of the household chores. After everyone is in bed, I watch at least another hour of two of film. Thursday - Home 5 hours - Road - 6-7 Home game, in the locker room at 3:45 out of the field house after game, locker room supervision, laundry by 8:45. Road game add a minimum of an hour sometimes 2. Friday - 9 hours - 3:45 - 1 am - after inputting film and data. Saturday - 8-3 = 7 hours + an hour or 2 watching film at home Sunday - 12-6 = 6 hours + an hour or two watching film at home So an minimum of 50 hours spent outside the regular school day in very normal for me. Now you can remove an hour or 2 hours a day for some coaches, but you are still talking about an extra 40 hours a week on top of working a 40 hour a week job. Not many individuals going to sign up for that for a $3,000 a year stipend.

It's not 50 hours of practice. It's 50 hours of practice / film / weights / monitoring kids as they get in and out of the locker room / laundry / preparation meetings for practice / mentoring kids / picking kids up / taking kids home / etc.

I averaged 80-85 hours a week at Marshall… seriously considered quitting the profession. Glad I got out of that mess. Finally found a spot where we average about 60-65 hours a week during the season. but as the athletic trainer, you learn to appreciate the small things. Our 60 hour weeks aren’t done until baseball is done. So baseball coaches, if you ever wonder why your AT hates you, it’s not personal, you are just the last sport we are waiting on before summer can begin

Thought it was too good to be true..... Anyway, youve never coached so you have absolutely ZERO idea of what coaches do.......

Someone who has never coached will never understand.......

That's exactly what I thought they would do, because they had to volunteer for the trip. If Mexico would send me to Cancun or Acapulco I'd go in a heartbeat to the border. I wouldn't want to go to Mexico City though.

Dude, that's what we work, 80-100 aa week during season.

I think it would depend on the size of your staff. 5-8 football coaches on staff to run 7-12 football is all hands on deck. As for why we work 16-20 hours on Saturday/Sunday is up the the head FB coach. Going 4 rounds deep to winning a state championship every year is worth it to me. But thats just me.

Dude, you are wading in too deep of water for some of these guys, as I had this conversation with many last week, it's either their way or the highway. Everyone else be danged.

" I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work." -- Peter Gibbons, Office Space.

Start with the 90 million we spend on STAAR Testing.

Hi @RHSeaglefan , just wanted to say hello and you might think about checking your own house before you start throwing stones. At least 4 fights in Rusk this week alone and a starter booted off the baseball team….. Generally my rule is that if you can’t say something nice, keep your mouth shut. I know not everyone in this day and age of the keyboard warriors can do that. I try. I don’t generally talk about family business/drama on social media…..that’s handled in house where it belongs. Yes, there have been some issues at Alto HS but better days ahead. Being in portable buildings for 3 years has been a challenge. Not many other schools can relate. Kids having to travel from that portable campus through the parking lot to cafeteria, ag building, field house, gym, library. It’s been kind of a logistical nightmare with everyone spread all over, battling the elements and having more freedoms than are normal. We did the best we could do under the circumstances. We dedicated our new high school building on Tuesday and kids are finally HOME in our brand new, state-of-the-art facility starting tomorrow (Monday). This is an incredible positive. And what a night of celebration we had Tuesday with close to 1,000 folks in attendance! Our superintendent, who has been in the district for 25+ years, is a hero. A few folks (very few…a handful actually) have bashed her, but she has absolutely handled these situations (from tornadoes to death to public forums) with grace, love, and determination along the hard road. She did not have to schedule any forums at all. There are public meetings once a month in the form of board meetings and do you know how many folks have spoken in community comments prior to the forums? The answer is zero this year. In the last 10 years, there have been 5 times when someone has spoken. And the majority of those were POSITIVE comments. She scheduled forums to LISTEN to the concerns. She had 3 forums, one for each campus for convenience sake….not because things were so bad that it took 3 forums. Really, everything that was said could’ve been said at one forum in one night. Basically the same couple people spoke at each forum. The news people picked up the story (I’m sure they got a call) after the first one and ran with it, casting the district in the worst possible light. That’s what the news does. It’s how they generate interest and get clicks on their sites. You mentioned that “about 100 kids from the entire district have transferred out to Rusk, Wells, ext., hence the drop to small 2A.” I checked on that and you are wrong. 30 kids total district wide are transfers OUT (including home schoolers) while 29 kids total are transfers IN. I hate that any kid would transfer out because we have a great school district but that is a far cry from the 100 you state. I’m excited about our future. As was stated at our dedication ceremony last week, our future is now in the form of this beautiful new facility. We thoroughly enjoyed celebrating our rich history and tradition last week, and now we look to our future….ALTOgether. The athletic department launched the #goldstandard meeting the same night and the highest expectations have been set. Great days ahead for sure! We also dedicated the new coliseum and the court was named after Vonte: the Devonte Mumphrey Memorial Court. How fitting!! AND his dad got to sink the first free throw that night. It was amazing and special to celebrate Vonte’s memory and our new facility. Here are a few links about our dedication to check out! Good to see that news stations do POSITIVE features also! https://www.ktre.com/2022/05/11/alto-isd-dedicates-new-buildings-wake-devastating-tornado/ https://www.ketk.com/news/local-news/alto-isd-unveils-new-buildings-names-basketball-court-after-student-who-passed-away/ https://www.cbs19.tv/article/news/local/alto-community-continues-to-remember-high-school-basketball-player/501-d53a139c-2136-472b-b999-3ae0020149ad https://www.jacksonvilleprogress.com/news/the-wait-is-over-alto-isd-dedicates-3-new-school-buildings/article_e78a14dc-d0c9-11ec-afa4-af35d0a223c7.html?utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR1UDDXobLEFMIouw5CWVnEUXgstG8KH8XPt8rGhyvfGrbr6Toz9YpLxrQc

This would be funny, if it wasn't true ....

Thought I would leave this here for your enjoyment!!!!

Don’t gang up on poor old Kirt. I can still remember when he & I were the only two Trump supporters on SDC.

Wrong...... https://www.practicalparadigms.com/blog-content/2019/1/4/the-relationship-between-participation-in-high-school-sports-and-career-success

And those idiots in the PNW will continue to vote blue. Same state that let that Chop Zone get set up and did nothing about.

You missed the boat old buddy. I was being facetious. You two were imitating Abbott & Costello.

Naw ... it's mostly politics ....

There are multiple ways, and not just breastfeeding. Goats milk, condensed milk with Karo syrup, coconut milk, almond milk, soy milk, and I've even seen hemp milk listed.

I knew they wouldn't play...they hadn't practiced all spring because of baseball and track. They didn't necessarily need to play though. Seeing the RB and WR depth was important.

So sorry, been to busy catching and frying crappie and all the fixins to check in much lately!!! Great year for crappie by the way!!!

Rivalries have already been walked away from by some……

Guys....you are explaining to those who dont want to know.

I am 100% positive that I condemned both parties in this topic. Scroll down some.

FOX News now showing Pentagon Declassified UFO’s videos. @KirtFalcon

Yes noticed as well the possibility of a Hughes Springs/Mt Vernon Regional Final which im certain might get a look in Winny too

Defense will be elite level, not even a question there. QB remains a question mark to me. None the three had an impressive day. Neither Hale nor Tatum played a snap. Focus was on the passing game it felt like for the day. Potential is there for sure, but it’s May.

Really? smh

Great post and pretty dang accurate

I broke it down for him. He doesn't have a clue what we do.

Much the reason why this topic exists.

Schools get plenty of money. Just spend it on less stupid things.

Trainers are by far the most underpaid and under appreciated "coaches" on staff.

its.....not..... it was.............sarcasm.................... that has gone over dwights head.........................................................................

If you help liberals win elections, you are a liberal ....

Like the Georgia Tech coach who took over from Paul Johnson. You try to install a pro style or spread offense with holdover triple option guys. That’s kinda hard to do. Especially when you only have a 1 or 2 at max to turn things around.

It’s not just small districts struggling to fill positions, it’s a problem in bigger ones too. And not just that, we have a work problem period. FedEx can’t get enough workers to get deliveries on time, food services have “now hiring” plastered everywhere…it’s an issue finding people who want to actually put forth effort. There have also been some self-inflicted wounds in the coaching community. Used to, if a coach wanted a raise they went into admin. Now some of the stipends are high enough coaches can stay in coaching longer and get their numbers up. Because of that, you now have that administrator who has 3 years of kindergarten experience working their way up the administrative ladder and it’s helped to turn education at local levels into more of a dog and pony show than education really needs to be. I’m glad coaches are getting paid better, but this is going to be a growing problem. One administrator I’ve heard of in Katy ISD struggled with 1st graders and was a high school campus principal. Instead of holding kids accountable it was always “what are you doing to engage those struggling students?” How many former coaches can you hear saying that? We’re also in a stretch of the entitled coach who has never had to grind through anything and if they’re told no they quit and go pout. We’ve also reached a level of select ball fever that coaches can do what they want job wise and take on a “stipend” of whatever they want to charge for their players. Realistically there are a lot of factors contributing to the educator shortage and I’m afraid that unless our mindset changes as a nation it’s going to get worse…even in Texas.

I’d be on board with that. Honestly, the NCAA should fire every single employee and let a representative from each school in their respective division make the rules and govern changes

Iowa AD wants to reinstate the transfer sit out rule to try and curb NIL tampering.

There isn't a place dark or hot enough in Hell for those who go after children. I'm not even a coach and I've got to put up with that ####.