KellyLeak
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16 hours ago, 89Falcon said:
"You" said:
"go practice your dirty bird or something, quit being pissed at the world". This statement qualifies as "lodging an insinuation" and "drawing a conclusion". At no point did I say anything about a "dirty bird" (whatever that is) or that "I am pissed at the world".
Make sense?
You're so old you don't remember the Atlanta Falcon "dirty bird?" Guess I'll need to slow down with my youngster sass...
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7 minutes ago, toeboat said:
Blanco, who you listed, fired their coach this year.
My bad, heard that deal was iffy, at best. Their baseball coach who has been there an unGodly amount of years and has so many wins is doing it the way it should be done.
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32 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:
Are you speaking in riddles? You drew quite a few conclusions and lodged quite few assumptions.
A conclusion you did not draw is that "when a program is losing, there is no figuring it out". Another one is this: "when a program wins, superficial outsiders perceive that they have everything figured out".
I have a hard time following you. I didn't draw or lodge anything.
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15 minutes ago, mrclean69 said:
We can not argue both that a good coach invests in kids and the community over wins, and state wins is what shows a place has it "figured out". That's the mindset that leads to coaches being fired for not reaching expectations. Because if it doesn't look like its figured out fire the coach.
Winning is all that matters. No community cares about a coach putting in time with kids, investing in the community, caring about kids, maxing out the potential of your talent etc. Wins. And even more specifically a progression of wins. Winning coaches have been fired for a town feeling like they've become stagnate. And lets be honest, there are only a few schools that come close to having the talent to compete with the first 5 schools on your list. I was specific in what I asked for a reason. There is a reason the saying "There are two types of coaches, those that have been fired and those that will be", rings true for 95% of the coaching world. Outside of the perennial powers that keep towns happy by winning, can you name 5 towns that have not fired their HC for a relatively long time? How many towns exist that understand their potential, and set their standard for their coach around that potential, and his care for the kids?
Jesus, now I have to name 5 more? This is getting exhausting. How many more sets of 5 do I have to name after that?
Not sure if either one of you guys have ever been a part of a community like I'm picturing, but I have and I hope that all coaches get to experience small town Friday night when you have the overwhelming majority support from the town. It's special.
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Just now, 89Falcon said:
Focus on whatever you want. Never heard "Buna" and "figured it out" in the same sentence.
Football is probably their worst sport I guess, but they make the playoffs 4 out of every 5 years. They're always in 2nd and 3rd round of basketball playoffs and they're usually really salty in baseball. So.... go practice your dirty bird or something. Quit being pissed at the world.
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42 minutes ago, MavGrad99 said:
Listen, I've been in this profession and setting for 15 years... and I know these few things for sure:
1. Winning without any super sketchy ethical concerns will keep you in a job for a very long time. Even if you are a complete ####.2. A new coach is usually given 2 years to show positive change. If it is a complete #### show, you are done by the end of that 2nd season and in some areas, after the 1st, including all of your staff.
3. You will get some love for community involvement, positive reinforcement, changing toxic culture etc, and will likely get plenty of other chances to coach again... but this without wins will land you back on the job market pretty quick.
I agree with all of that. But trying to convince these old geezers that it can be changed, turned around, and made a good environment is next to impossible.
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3 hours ago, 89Falcon said:
"Buna" has it "figured out"?
Oh they don't have success in the big 3 sports? So out of 9 schools, you pick off 1 of them? If there isn't any truth in what I'm typing, why only focus on "Buna?" Quotations go after the punctuation marks...
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12 hours ago, Valhalla said:
No they aren’t.
Parents care about what is best for their kid. Coaches have to do what is best for the program.
100% agree, no beef with that post. But, there are parents and there are communities that work together. And I believe with enough hard work, a community can go from "not a great place to be," to a winner with a bunch of the same drive and focus channeled into 1 goal. It is possible, and it does happen. See my other post.
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18 hours ago, mrclean69 said:
Can you give some examples of these communities? Can you name 5 towns that have not made deep runs in the playoffs are not firing coaches for it?
That have NOT? They aren't on the same page if they're continuously losing. I don't have insider knowledge of these towns, but on the outside, they seem to have it figured out.
Crawford, Franklin, Carthage, Malakoff, Grandview, Pottsboro, Muenster, Blanco, Buna... shall I keep going?
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4 hours ago, RETIREDFAN1 said:
What universe did you wake up in this morning???
I don't understand why it has to be coach/teachers vs the community...? Everyone is working for the same goal. There are communities out there that have this figured out. It takes a group of good people that are louder than the ones that want to be negative. Relationships have to be built. I've seen it happen.
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On 5/19/2022 at 10:53 PM, HearEmaGrowlin said:
I disagree.
Me too. That's the old timers way of thinking. It doesn't have to be like that. Especially with strong leadership at the top with excellent community relations. Everyone working in the same direction for the same goal.
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7 minutes ago, GoodOleBoy73 said:
Some places are better than others when it comes to the hours. I have worked 90 hour weeks. I have worked 60 hour weeks. I have been a part of bad teams. I have been a part of good teams.
The fact is this...80-100 hours in a week is not something that is just made up. You can think we are lying if you want...that is your choice. However, if your kid is ever a part of a program that has good coaches who are doing everything they can to help your kid have success then I hope you appreciate them. I hope you don't take for granted all that they do, despite the fact that some of you guys think we are just making stuff up.
100% accurate. The lack of appreciation is what is driving good or young coaches out. Tons of good coaches are staying too. To each their own. Please appreciate success that your athletic program is having. There's not many jobs that pay out less than $10/hr for people that rack their brains and lose sleep over the performance of 14-18 yr olds.
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10 hours ago, playactionpass39 said:
You have to do what you have to do to get the job done. HC is actually a pretty good guy, we don't meet just to meet and he does as much of the grunt work as anybody. The work has to get done. No lucky enough to have a full time maintenance guy assigned to the field house to do the laundry or field maintenance people to paint the field.
I miss painting fields because of the pride you had at the end, but doing it, sucks.
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11 hours ago, MavGrad99 said:
Some of your HC’s don’t manage time or people well
. Probably been divorced a time or 2 also
That's my only point I was trying to make.
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37 minutes ago, GNR said:
I think it would depend on the size of your staff. 5-8 football coaches on staff to run 7-12 football is all hands on deck. As for why we work 16-20 hours on Saturday/Sunday is up the the head FB coach. Going 4 rounds deep to winning a state championship every year is worth it to me. But thats just me.
I know plenty small school staffs that make perennial runs that might work 10 hours on the weekends. All about splitting up jobs and handling your own business. Also, for you educators that are posting during school hours, how are you justified in calling "teaching" a 40 hr work week when you're posting on smoaky? Quit crying about the job.
Also, stop explaining the job to me. It's not something I don't know about.
Furthermore, I agree on the topic. Seems like just hiring a decent human being is a hard job, much less a good coach and someone that handles themselves professionally in the classroom. I'm not sure where this profession is heading, but if admin doesn't start standing up to kids and parents, the middle man(teachers and coaches), will become non existent. If high school sports are left up to the parents to run, it'll be a disaster. Actually, it'll be exactly like little league, peewee, and little dribblers. So if you want parents helping out, be careful what you wish for. Not in any remote case would I be in favor of a parent helping, unless they played professionally.
What really gets under my skin is the group of high school coaches that think because they are high school coaches, they immediately know more than everyone else. Anyone can be a high school coach guys. Every person in the world is a bachelor's degree and iTeach Texas away from doing it. Head coach? Prooooooobably not. Successful coach? Proooooooooobably not. Be humble, the world needs more of it.
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47 minutes ago, playactionpass39 said:
I will break it down for you like this.
Monday and Tuesday - 14 hours
In the locker room at 3:45, on the field at 4, practice starts at 4:15, off the field at 7:15. Locker room empty and all kids left the premises b by 7:45. Put in laundry and watch practice film, flip laundry, discuss personnel and scheme and plan tomorrows practice, out of the field house by 8:45. Me personally, I go home and take care of what is left to do at home after my wife has taken care of the majority of the household chores. After everyone is in bed, I watch at least another hour of two of film.
Wednesday - 7 hours
In the locker room at 3:45, on the field at 4, practice starts at 4:15, off the field at 6:15. Locker room empty and all kids left the premises b by 6:45. Put in laundry and paint the game field. Watch practice film, flip laundry, discuss personnel and scheme. Out oft he field house at 8:45. Me personally, I go home and take care of what is left to do at home after my wife has taken care of the majority of the household chores. After everyone is in bed, I watch at least another hour of two of film.
Thursday - Home 5 hours - Road - 6-7
Home game, in the locker room at 3:45 out of the field house after game, locker room supervision, laundry by 8:45. Road game add a minimum of an hour sometimes 2.
Friday - 9 hours - 3:45 - 1 am - after inputting film and data.
Saturday - 8-3 = 7 hours + an hour or 2 watching film at home
Sunday - 12-6 = 6 hours + an hour or two watching film at home
So an minimum of 50 hours spent outside the regular school day in very normal for me.
Now you can remove an hour or 2 hours a day for some coaches, but you are still talking about an extra 40 hours a week on top of working a 40 hour a week job. Not many individuals going to sign up for that for a $3,000 a year stipend.
This is a brutal schedule. Whoever is leading and planning this charge, needs to re-evaluate. It can be done better.
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2 hours ago, playactionpass39 said:
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. Those are weekly totals. But, maybe I didn't do a good job in my explanation. An hour a day in locker room supervision (3 days of practice). An hour a day of meetings, watching practice film, evaluating personnel and adjustments. And hour a day minimum watching film on your own. If your not putting in the work then someone else is.
Saturdays, bring kids in at 9 for an hour of lift and recovery so coaches have to be there by8 or 8:30, 10-12 film from Friday's game. Then laundry, cleaning locker rooms from the game, putting up uniforms, and 2 hours of watching opponents film, so yes Saturday turns into a 7-8 hour day.
So every coach does every job? Come on guy, not a rook here. While coaches are lifting players, others are doing laundry. While coaches are putting up uniforms, coordinators and lead position guys can break down opponent film.
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18 hours ago, playactionpass39 said:
8 hours of after school practice per UIL
3 hours after practice to supervise locker rooms
3 hours after locker rooms are clear for offense/defensive meetings and laundry duty
2-3 hours on Wednesday painting the game field and/or practice field
3 - 5 hours on Thursdays for Sub-Varsity games
8 hours on Friday Nights for travel, games and locker room clean up
7-8 hours on Saturday for film, laundry and meetings
6 hours on Sunday for game planning, practice preparation
8-10 hours film study outside the school day
It adds up real quick.
If you don't think football coaches work 50 hours a week outside the school day then you are sadly mistaken.
3 hours of supervising lockerrooms? 3 hours daily for meetings and laundry? 8 hours on saturday for film? 6 hours on sunday for film? There's no time for the other 8-10 other hours of extra film study. That's a brutal schedule, and not an efficient one. Someone needs to re-evaluate who they work for and get out of there. It's done way better at places that do it right. For example... if you finalize the plan Sunday, why is there a need to meet for 3 hours daily discussing strategy? It either worked in practice, or it didn't. Tweak it, move on. Does not take 3 hours. Why does it take 3 hours for kids to leave the lockerroom?
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21 hours ago, Nick2011 said:
When they beat Malakoff this year maybe you will change your mind.
Oh God, if there was ever a year for that to happen, this is your best shot. The stars have aligned. If you don't get it done, you are who I thought you were. Overrated as usual.
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On 4/2/2022 at 11:22 AM, Nick2011 said:
What 5 teams are you talking about? Pretty sure nobody on their schedule would beat WR in district.
Seriously? You guys make it to the 3rd round and now you're world beaters. Like I said before, 5 of the 6 preseason teams are capable of winning Arp's district. Would be a tall task to beat WR for those teams, but WR ain't gonna beat the crap out of any of them.
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On 4/1/2022 at 10:49 AM, sumospud said:
Not sure about that West Rusk is still the top dog until someone steps up. Just not used to Arp playing that many 2A schools.
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Spud
Guess you guys didn't comprehend my statement... out of the 6 preseason games, excluding Hawkins, 5 of those teams would compete just fine in Arp's district. So Arp scheduled well, imo. Even though there's 2A's, still a stout schedule.
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21 hours ago, sumospud said:
2022 ARP TIGERS SCHEDULE
AUG. 12 MALAKOFF - AWAY - SCRIMMAGE
AUG. 18 HAWKINS - HOME -SCRIMMAGE
NON-DISTRICT
AUG. 26 - JOAQUIN - AWAY
SEPT. 2 - GARRISON - HOME
SEPT. 9 - CARLISLE - HOME
SEPT. 16 - TENAHA - AWAY
DISTRICT
SEPT. 23 - WEST RUSK - HOME
SEPT. 30 - WINONA - AWAY
OCT. 7 GRAND SALINE - HOME
OCT. 14 - TROUP - AWAY
OCT. 21 - QUITMAN - HOME
OCT. 28 - EDGEWOOD - AWAY
Lot of smaller schools in preseason not sure how that will help in this district.
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Spud
There's 5 of the 6, excluding Hawkins, that would win your district. So I'd say preseason shapes up well for you guys.
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On 3/23/2022 at 8:06 AM, lionpride08 said:
Lol we don't have any kids from them schools. Nice try though. I can't believe you said gause lmao
It's completely ok for Franklin to have nice facilities, traditions, discipline, and overall sense of community. It's also ok for other kids and families that didn't grow up in Franklin to want that same thing and move into Franklin to become apart of it. It's not a good look to claim every kid is home grown. Embrace the fact that Franklin's vibe and atmosphere is something that outsiders want.
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13 minutes ago, KellyLeak said:
I remember my uncle running the quarter against a kid from Tatum. He never could beat him. They battled it out at Regionals and throughout the majority of the seaon, honestly. The mile relay between the 2 schools was a blast to watch. He graduated in the mid 90's. Those were the days of multiple sub 50's. Those days are long gone.
Also, if Sabine is playing Dallas Parish Episcopal, good luck. Bad decision honestly. Hope some of your kids don't get hurt.
*my uncle was from spring hill, sorry for leaving that out.
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I don't know why your cronies RETIREDFAN or DirtyBirdFALCON89 are giving you trophies, the Blanco guy wasn't fired because of wins, or lack thereof. And Malakoff wasn't a top 5 program in 2003. It was turned into a good program. Same with Carthage. Same with Grandview, shall I keep going? Of course there's not going to be much support at a perennial loser, they ain't got it figured out. Pair them with the right leadership + community support = things CAN get turned around. Takes a little work.