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Everide2016

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  1. "Defense matters." Couldn't agree more. Watch the Post vs Refugio championship game to see a great defense. Easy to get over the scores when hoisting the trophy.
  2. Wrong, "the most important detail" was not left out. Playing no one until the 3rd round has been much more detrimental to Refugio than helpful. Remember when they caught all the grief for running up the scores. Their coach was convinced that playing all those lousy teams and having to pull his starters by halftime was killing them in the playoffs. He started playing them through the 3rd quarter in order to try to have them game ready for the playoffs. That resulted in the crazy scores and the huge ESPN story raking them over the coals, but it also resulted in a state championship. This proved their Coach's theory was right. Those that argue otherwise will never be convinced, but it was the key from their perspective. Also, you might want to do some homework on saying they 'play no one until the 3rd round.' They can't do anything about their district schedule, although for a few years they did have Shiner and Weimar, but they will play all comers in pre-district and have shown this over recent years playing even a Top 5 4A program in Geronimo-Navarro to 21-17 and 14-6 losses, not bad for playing up two divisions. Also, playing any 3A team that will play, although most won't because they don't want to get their hat handed to them by a 2A school. They travel farther than many other teams are willing to do in pre-district in order to try to get some good competition.... Mart - 250+ miles, Cameron - 195, Geronimo-Navarro - 100+, Lago Vista - 190, Halletsville, Goliad, Edna, Aransas Pass, Ingleside. Neither Aledo or Refugio contribute to who they play in district, so that's not a positive or negative attributable to either program's system. To say "that's how you gauge a program" misses the mark.
  3. Was there a reason Walsh left Guyer other than a new challenge?
  4. Could be a good job, but few in the area think much of their program at present. When talking football in the area, I've never heard San Marcos brought up and that's having lived here for 20 years.
  5. I'd consider cordoning off the main stands they're having problems with, use some quality temporary fencing, set up temporary stands on both ends of the old stands and even in the end zones if needed, but I'd do all I could to play at home. Plenty can stand of the fence line too.
  6. Taking nothing away from Aledo, but I'm looking at not just wins and titles, but at the entire community picture. You say "we should let the numbers talk" and I agree, but there is more to this than just the numbers on the field. Much more goes into making a program truly great. I've never been to Aledo, but my impression of Aledo is that it is a very affluent area/district with whatever they need at their fingertips. Am I off the mark with that? Now let's look at Refugio's entire community picture... The two (Aledo/Refugio) are as diametrically opposed as is possible. Right? Taking where the two have come from, looking at the entire school/community/resources etc, I have to go with Refugio as the program of the decade. They have made more of what they have than any other program. Even as I typed that it has an "icky" feeling of a socialist world view and I've tried to view it from the Aledo point-of-view, but still have to take my hat off to Refugio as the best. Herring has milked every drop possible out of the resources available in Refugio to make them into what they are today.
  7. Refugio tops all of these IMO. Since Herring got there in '06 or '07, they have done nothing but win despite the odds, and they have won against all comers, playing highly ranked 3A and even a few ranked 4A schools. Not taking anything away from the likes of Carthage and others, but few if any are playing 3-3 divisions up and schools with at least 3 times as many kids (well, except for those unfortunate to have to play Allen with their ridiculous 6,000+). Take a drive through Refugio and see what they're coming from. Consider they have only 200-210 kids in their school.... Looking at all the factors, they are the most consistent and dominant program in Texas over the past decade and Herring is quickly moving up the ladder of the winningest coaches in Texas High School Football history. They've been spanked a few times by some tough opponents (i.e. Canandian), but they have also dished it out to many who thought they were upper echelon until they ran into the Bobcat buzz-saw (San Augustine, Waskom, Holland....). They are the model of consistency and dominance.
  8. That doesn't make the cut. The running up the score routine went by the wayside quite some time ago, and if you'll reflect on that, his reason for doing it resulted in a championship Remember, he had been only playing his starters through the second quarter for his first 3 or 4 years at Refugio, and they were losing in the quarter or semi-finals. His theory was that his starters weren't getting enough game time during regular season and then when they got deep in the playoffs, they weren't ready for a full 4 quarters. So, he played them for only 3 quarters, not 4, for the following season and that was when they caught all the flack for running up the scores during regular season, even though they still only played starters 3 quarters. End result, they won state. Yes, a lot of people criticized him, he was labeled "coach satan" by some sorry people, and he even received death threats. Their scoring in recent years hasn't been what it was in that year. If you can't get past that, you have something deeper that you're either unaware of, or just don't want to admit. Any chance you played for Freer in 2011?
  9. Is there something specific that make you think he has no character... beyond the half back pas with a minute left? if that's all you're going on, that's pretty shaky. I've heard from too many people who didn't know him who after meeting him think he is a genuinely good man who cares about his kids and community. Another that was interviewed right after their state championship win, the Mart coach, said their teams and coaches have developed a good relationship over the past few years and was very complimentary. Unless you got more substance, I'd be hard pressed to go with your opinion. Consider taking a step back and see if you may have this wrong.
  10. You're right. Both going to have our own opinion. I'm not tied to either, and have no real care as to which was successful in their quest. Just offering an opinion from an impartial . I'll put it this way... I was very impressed with Shiner in a way I've only seen one other time at the 2A level. The only thing more impressive was Refugio finding a way to beat them. I thought SA was very good, but what I saw from them this year I've seen before quite a few times in 2A. I'm not taking anything away from SA, great season and great team, but not something that had me walking away thinking, "dude, you won't be seeing that again for some time" which is what I was thinking after seeing Shiner.
  11. Wrong. I don't hype teams, it's not what I do, but that Shiner team was hype worthy and that was the game that determined the state champion, not Refugio vs SA. Just my opinion having seen both in person.
  12. Always remnants of the Refugio haters taking jabs at them after they do something good. What the heck? Wasn't classless. It was just a play.
  13. I know that probably makes a SA fan feel good, but just not the case. Shiner was absolutely incredible, as good as I've seen in 2A. They probably beat Refugio 99 times out of 100 with the team they had this year, but Refugio found a way on that night and that's all that mattered.
  14. They had the size and okay speed, they just didn't have the pedigree, coaching (no slight intended to Post, but Refugio coaching has won 2-3 playoff games)...
  15. Disagree. Been to each of Refugio's playoff games and would put Post about even with Holland, maybe a little better. Shiner was the best without any doubt, followed by San Augustine. The stars simply aligned for Refugio to beat Shiner and Refugio to their credit took advantage of it playing with complete determination and grit. 1- Refugio; 2 - Shiner; 3 - San Augustine; 4 - San Saba (if their QB wasn't out) 5 - Groveton; 6 - Post/Holland
  16. Because that one bad decision could have been disastrous for #77. If #50 isn't a senior, he shouldn't be allowed to play next year. That was a blatant attempt to hurt another kid. Just checked maxpreps, says he's a junior. He should be done with high school football.
  17. Couldn't have said it better. Grew up in east texas so always wanting to see those teams do good. All the whining after the loss doesn't jive with all the chest pounding during the season. Reeks like a dirty diaper.
  18. Fake news. Replay clearly showed no PI. SA had a great season and I was very impressed with how much better they were than last time I saw them. But, to keep whining about a PI call whether real or not is missing the point that championship teams simply find a way to win. SA had their chances, played a great game other than too many penalties. The refs were as good as we're ever going to get at this level. They were out of Tyler and call some college games, not some scrub crew. They called a very even handed game across the board. For the few from SA that keep whining about this, I think there are hundreds that would simply acknowledge Refugio just had a little more of what was needed to take the W. Like the fake extra point their holder took for the 2 pt conversion. That was a gamble that paid off huge for them had SA managed to score again.
  19. Everyone is going to have their own opinion on that. I was at both games and Shiner beats both of these teams 99 out of 100 times. Quite a few folks from Refugio have admitted that too, that Shiner had everything, but Refugio put it all together to beat them on that one night. They were as good as I've seen at this level. It was just Refugio's night to beat them and everything came together for them on that night. Shiner was very impressive and I don't know how Refugio pulled that one out. Not selling Refugio or SA short, but them are the facts.
  20. Refugio just too big? You must be color blind, because the boys in Red and White were significantly bigger that the ones in Orange and Black.
  21. Yes, that's true. I think the bigger issue was Refugio's smaller outmatched line whipping the dog out of SA's front. I don't know how that happens other than conditioning and pure heart.
  22. That's what keeps them in the game. I just said to my wife that SA can score on any play and there it is.
  23. Likely doing the best he can. He's coaching against one of the best in Texas HS football history.
  24. And it's much better coverage than Texan Live. Has clock, down and yardage, replay, etc. Texan Live only one camera and none of the other.
  25. #24 for SA has impressed me. SA should get him the ball more in second half.
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