Everide2016
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10 minutes ago, Bears8T9 said:
Yeah I’m hurt…. The team that my son plays on and kids that I coached in pee wee ball and watched grow up lost a heartbreaker last night to a good team and missed another chance at AT&T….. I’m I butt hurt….. absolutely not I’m a big boy and can give as good as I get…. As I said in an earlier post…. You have a major problem with someone that backs their team up…. If you can prove to me that their has never been a better team that lost when they were the better team I’ll move on…. But in MY opinion I think we were better just missed opportunities…. Y’all were legit…. No one would be playing in December that wasn’t…. But I bleed black and gold and you are bobcat4life….. once again # calm down…. Lol Lol
All the banter aside, I respect where you're coming from. Wish this would have been the championship game. Hoping the best for Timpson next year.
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1 hour ago, Foozball said:
Take away Refugio’s best player (fastest 2a man in state) are they even playing in this game? Logic is wild huh
52 minutes ago, Foozball said:No and don’t care to tbh
49 minutes ago, Foozball said:Take our y’all’s QB — he’s the only reason y’all won against shiner, now it’s Timpon Vs Shiner. See how that works? I can give lessons if you’d like. Man logic is not your strong suit. It really is baffling you isn’t it
@Foozball you really are embarrassing yourself. In a matter of 15 minutes you've contradicted yourself at least 3 times and can't keep it straight. First you say "take away Refugio's best player...", then in response to if you even know who their best player is "no and don't care..." then you say 'take out y'all's QB -- he's the only reason y'all won..."
Even after @woodersongave you a great breakdown of 5 to 6 Refugio players who may arguably be Refugio's "best player," you still didn't get it.
Nobody is going to be taking up your offer on lessons in logic. It's definitely "not your strong suit. It really is baffling you isn't it."
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1 hour ago, Foozball said:
Everyone acts like we don’t know anything about powerhouses and traditions and established programs — like it’s some mystery. Y’all do know Carthage is like 20 mins away right? We get it. Refugio is a traditional powerhouse. Cool. We completely understand I promise.
A Regions rise and fall has to start somewhere… maybe one day the shoe will be on the other foot
I agree plenty of Timpson's fans understand this. But there are several very vocal ones on this thread like @Bear9T1 , the self-proclaimed Sage of Timpson Football, who proclaimed "Refugio ain't got a clue what's about to ensue" that don't understand.
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16 minutes ago, HearEmaGrowlin said:
Really, your best two backs go out and you don’t miss a beat, it’s the scheme.
That is not ignorant, it’s fact and actually a compliment to how well y’all run that offense I so highly dislike.
Oh, they definitely missed a beat. LH quite possibly would have had another 150 yards rushing with those two in the game.
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1 hour ago, Foozball said:
“Possibly best coach in state as a whole…” bro you D-riding so hard for these dudes. Sure he’s a great coach but best coach in the state? Rofl
It’s 2A calm down
Did you miss the word "possibly" even though you quoted me? I did not say he was the best, only that it's possible. Yes it's 2A, but still possible he has done as much or more with what he has as any other coach. A coach doesn't have to be at the 4A or higher level to be the best, or do they?
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1 hour ago, Foozball said:
Yea ima have to agree with Swarming. Take away Refugio’s best player what happens to their season? Do the beat Shiner? Stop ripping into the Bears — they lost to a great team by 3 in the last seconds of a game.
I'm not ripping the Bears. I thought they were great. It's some of the posts that I rather enjoy bantering with.
And which Refugio player would that be? Take that player away and Refugio still goes at least to the 4th round. Take away Bussey and Timpson might make the 2nd round. Doesn't really matter now. Both played and we have the result. Two great teams and only one could win.
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3 hours ago, JMS1971 said:
I hear ya. I’ve been familiar with Herring for a long time. I have a question for you. As I’m starting to learn there is a lot of coaches that come on this app who get pretty butt hurt when someone questions coaches decisions. What point would YOU question a coach? I don’t come on here to bash coaches, but when I see BS, I’ll call it out.
I would question a coach similar to any other school employee from a Janitor to a Superintendent. Not all-inclusive, but... 1) if they do something immoral that is detrimental to the school and/or kids. Something immoral almost always is in this line of work. 2) if they show lack of effort and self-motivation that's required to get the job done. 3) they show incompetence in their work.
If only we we held teachers to the same standard as coaches....
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3 hours ago, HearEmaGrowlin said:
Your offense does not require athletes.
Going with Liberty Hill to win with their clock eating trickery.
The bitterness toward Liberty Hill from some Carthage fans has no end and is quite hilarious.
Trying to diminish Liberty Hill's offense in saying it "does not require athletes' has to be in the top 10 most ignorant statements of all time on Smoaky. It's great beating so many teams with no athletes. Carthage should try it. Maybe they could have managed at least one win against Liberty Hill's trickery.
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24 minutes ago, Bear9T1 said:
Chest pounder…congrats. Your I’m East Texas through and through comment is BS! You’re the one riding coat tails! Enjoy the ride, I see where you get your name from now. Bear9T1 over and out.
No coat tails for me. I've been consistent throughout. Just pointing out facts and giving credit where it is due.
It's always a harder pill to swallow for those like yourself, @Bear9T1 , who tout their football knowledge and make ridiculous assertions like you did in saying "Refugio ain't ready for what's about to ensue." I tried to break it down to you at that time, but you being the great Sage of Timpson Football, would have none of it.
Try to step outside yourself for one second and now with the benefit of hindsight, acknowledge how ridiculous you sounded in saying that? Try to educate yourself a little more before next year and come back with some humility when your team is going up against a proven powerhouse. Timpson may get it done next year, but it won't be because Refugio or Shiner "ain't ready for what's about to ensue." They know.
And now trying to call me out on my East Texas roots? Very nice touch.
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Regarding "The Slip," since many have pointed out Timpson perhaps wins without it.
The first down marker was just inside the 28 yd line. Bussey slipped down at the 33 yd line. The commentator says, "Bussey had nothing but clear sailing in front of him," which wasn't the case. Refugio had 3-4 defenders at the 29 directly in front of him. We can speculate forevermore, but certainly a good chance those defenders make the tackle and we have the same result. We'll never know.
What we do know is that Refugio took possession with 3:44 remaining and effectively drove the ball down for the win. During this drive they had 5 players touch the ball on 9 plays, and a 6th player kicking the field goal, taking their first lead of the game with only 9 seconds left. TEAM.
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1 hour ago, SwarmingOnEm said:
So Bussey the only one who scored for Timpson?? I bet Refugio was peeing down their leg when it was 14-0. If you saw the game then you know it can be said that Refugio can thank Campbell and go ahead and thank the little kicker. Bussey got those gashing runs with the help of his line, so looks like a pretty good team to me. Refugio was gashed by Bussey because Refugio obviously knew there was waaay more to worry about than him. If that wasn’t the case, they’d have keyed on him and shut him down completely but they couldn’t. Not taking anything away from Refugio, great win. But if Bussey doesn’t slip on the wide open 4th and 3, they most likely bleed clock and Refugio might not win this one. Bussey is a great player on a team every bit as good as Refugio’s.
I didn't say Bussey was only one to score, just said best team won.
I didn't say the Timpson line wasn't good, they did fine blocking for Bussey, I only said the best team won. Refugio wasn't gashed by Bussey because "they knew there was way more to worry about." They did key on him, but nobody in 2A is shutting him down. If you don't get that, your football knowledge is minimal.
Many have pointed out that if only there hadn't been "The Slip." The Slip was unfortunate, but it's part of the game. Even more so when a guy runs the ball 30-40 times, there's going to be a slip every now and then. Speculating what would have happened without The Slip does no good. Perhaps Refugio would have had a scoop and score on the next play. We can play that out however each of us chooses in our own mind.
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12 hours ago, JMS1971 said:
Whose job is it to develop talent? Im not coach bashing, but Timpson was out coached tonight. No different than the 2021 semifinals game. I’ve already read a few other comments pointing out the little flaws with Timpson. Like it or not, but criticism comes with the job.
You do realize he was coaching against the best coach in 2a, possibly the state as a whole, so yes, they were outcoached last night. Herring is on pace to be the winningest coach in Texas HS history if he chooses to keep going. Timpson's coach has taken them where they've never been before. Try to take a deep breath and enjoy the success Timpson is having and realize losing to a Herring coached team isn't unique to Therwanger. The best thing Timpson could do is work to ensure Therwanger doesn't take a job offer to a bigger and more lucrative school, because they will come calling with the success he has had these last 3 years.
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10 hours ago, Bear9T1 said:
Whatever man. We gave them all they wanted. Go back to your Damn hole you troll
It's not being a troll. He was just calling you out for saying 'Refugio ain't ready for what's about to ensue.' I even tried telling you Refugio had seen it all and was prepared for anything, but just like many R3 fans of years gone by, you thought you knew better with ridiculous statements like that. Timpson (really Bussey) was as good as advertised, but Refugio's culture of winning, never believing they are out of a game, and better coaching adds up to a team (kids) that knows how to close out a game when the pressure is on. They expect to win the big ones and know how to do it.
Timpson on the other hand has been riding the coat tails of Bussey and he just didn't make enough big plays last night. It's no knock on him. Without him, they win maybe two playoff games. He just needed more out of his teammates and coaches last night.
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11 hours ago, SwarmingOnEm said:
I feel like the best team in the State went home. Nothing against Refugio.
Wrong. The best 2A player went home, but the best team won. That's why it's always better to have the best team.
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13 hours ago, MattStepp said:
Yeah Ernest Campbell is also very much football fast...geez
Correct. He was the fastest on the field without a doubt, and that includes being the one that was the most "football fast." I know some said otherwise in the pre-game talk, but he showed it on the field.
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36 minutes ago, DAhomer said:
Very Nice!
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Any good Mexican buffet in the Cypress area, if there is such a thing. Nothing like this where I live, so thought maybe in Cypress? Something like the old Pancho's, the place you always want to go, but after you wonder why.
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Liberty Hill lost their top two running backs in first offensive series of last game, but still ran for over 500 yards and scored 63. Don't know that it means anything regarding the outcome of this game, but an interesting thing to know. I think LH will give a good fight, but hard to overcome loss of top two offensive weapons. I think they had some 3,000 yards between the two.
Liberty Hill has established themselves as a top tier program for the better part of 2 decades while moving from 3A up to 5A and with only 2 down years over that period. Their last down year being 2012 when they went 6-4. They have exceptional coaching and have a culture and mindset of winning and never quitting. I've watched them win quite a number of games that went down to the wire and seems like they almost always find a way to pull out the W. One exceptional win against Carthage when nobody gave them a chance, the last two years against Alamo Heights in playoffs, and even last week against Flour Bluff after losing the 2 RBs.
I have to admit I know very little about PNG, but they do seem to be a program that is more up and down, not as well established as a regular contender. Perhaps this is their year, but I'm going with Liberty Hill.
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2 hours ago, DAhomer said:
Then they got boat raced by Canadian
That Canadian team may be the best 2A I've seen. Nobody was beating them that year.
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29 minutes ago, Allheartnoquit said:
You are correct crawford aint beating either team
Perhaps. I haven't seen them or followed them this year, so can only base it on what I've seen them do in the past and what their results look like this year. They've handled everyone fairly easy other than Tolar.
Beat Centerville very easy who a number were touting as giving Timpson a run for their money, even though that turned out not to be the case. The same Centerville who handled your Teague team fairly easy.
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On 12/5/2022 at 11:08 AM, Allheartnoquit said:
Ya I am from Teague I know Crawford very well.
You aint beating Timpson if they are there.
I guess that means Crawford ain't beating Refugio either since Timpson will have lost to them if Refugio is in the championship?
Ridiculous. Crawford kids know a little about playing at this stage in the playoffs. They'll be fine and have a chance against anyone.
Having said that, I do think Hawley wins, but I never count out Crawford.
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2 minutes ago, Cowboynation said:
So just say if Timpson loses the year in state semifinals and next year do you start look at the coaching staff as if maybe that can’t get it done just asking a question
No, that's ridiculous and where a lot of schools go wrong. Got to stick with coaches over the long term unless there is substantial reason to fire, even with teams less successful than Timpson. "Looking" at the coaching staff that's taking you to a level you've never been before, no way.
The greater issue for Timpson, even if they were to lose, holding on to coaching staff that has been to semi-final for 3-4 straight years because opportunities will come their way.
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1 hour ago, Bears8T9 said:
We’ve started slow for 14 weeks and found a way
A few ways to look at that. We've done it for 14 weeks and can do it one or two more. Or, they've done it 14 weeks, but weren't playing against one of the top few 2A programs in the state.
It could still be overcome by either team as they both have those abilities, it will just make it a lot harder with a slow start.
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11 minutes ago, JMS1971 said:
R3 has had some good teams crash and burn against R4. I agree, until we win one of the semis, we can’t talk too much. If it’s gonna happen this year, Timpson cannot come out like they did against Cooper. I think a slow start by either team could be disastrous.
Agreed. Slow start could be doom for either team.
Could cause coaches to do crazy things like going for it on 4th and long from their own 13.
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Spot on. But it has been this way for the last decade. Some well-informed R3 "insiders" temper their comments with some humility and reasonable predictions, but a lot of R3 "insiders" continuously make game week bold predictions (like a 20 point win or saying Shiner/Refugio don't know what's coming their way), tout R3's superior talent and speed, etc. Then they get ticked off when someone says "I told you so" after another loss.
The "I told you so" would be far fewer if the "Chest Pounders" like @Bear9T1had a modicum of humility. (@Foozball that means a small amount)