Everide2016
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10 hours ago, Bear9T1 said:
Whatever man. We gave them all they wanted. Go back to your Damn hole you troll
It's not being a troll. He was just calling you out for saying 'Refugio ain't ready for what's about to ensue.' I even tried telling you Refugio had seen it all and was prepared for anything, but just like many R3 fans of years gone by, you thought you knew better with ridiculous statements like that. Timpson (really Bussey) was as good as advertised, but Refugio's culture of winning, never believing they are out of a game, and better coaching adds up to a team (kids) that knows how to close out a game when the pressure is on. They expect to win the big ones and know how to do it.
Timpson on the other hand has been riding the coat tails of Bussey and he just didn't make enough big plays last night. It's no knock on him. Without him, they win maybe two playoff games. He just needed more out of his teammates and coaches last night.
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11 hours ago, SwarmingOnEm said:
I feel like the best team in the State went home. Nothing against Refugio.
Wrong. The best 2A player went home, but the best team won. That's why it's always better to have the best team.
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13 hours ago, MattStepp said:
Yeah Ernest Campbell is also very much football fast...geez
Correct. He was the fastest on the field without a doubt, and that includes being the one that was the most "football fast." I know some said otherwise in the pre-game talk, but he showed it on the field.
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36 minutes ago, DAhomer said:
Very Nice!
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Any good Mexican buffet in the Cypress area, if there is such a thing. Nothing like this where I live, so thought maybe in Cypress? Something like the old Pancho's, the place you always want to go, but after you wonder why.
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Liberty Hill lost their top two running backs in first offensive series of last game, but still ran for over 500 yards and scored 63. Don't know that it means anything regarding the outcome of this game, but an interesting thing to know. I think LH will give a good fight, but hard to overcome loss of top two offensive weapons. I think they had some 3,000 yards between the two.
Liberty Hill has established themselves as a top tier program for the better part of 2 decades while moving from 3A up to 5A and with only 2 down years over that period. Their last down year being 2012 when they went 6-4. They have exceptional coaching and have a culture and mindset of winning and never quitting. I've watched them win quite a number of games that went down to the wire and seems like they almost always find a way to pull out the W. One exceptional win against Carthage when nobody gave them a chance, the last two years against Alamo Heights in playoffs, and even last week against Flour Bluff after losing the 2 RBs.
I have to admit I know very little about PNG, but they do seem to be a program that is more up and down, not as well established as a regular contender. Perhaps this is their year, but I'm going with Liberty Hill.
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2 hours ago, DAhomer said:
Then they got boat raced by Canadian
That Canadian team may be the best 2A I've seen. Nobody was beating them that year.
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29 minutes ago, Allheartnoquit said:
You are correct crawford aint beating either team
Perhaps. I haven't seen them or followed them this year, so can only base it on what I've seen them do in the past and what their results look like this year. They've handled everyone fairly easy other than Tolar.
Beat Centerville very easy who a number were touting as giving Timpson a run for their money, even though that turned out not to be the case. The same Centerville who handled your Teague team fairly easy.
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On 12/5/2022 at 11:08 AM, Allheartnoquit said:
Ya I am from Teague I know Crawford very well.
You aint beating Timpson if they are there.
I guess that means Crawford ain't beating Refugio either since Timpson will have lost to them if Refugio is in the championship?
Ridiculous. Crawford kids know a little about playing at this stage in the playoffs. They'll be fine and have a chance against anyone.
Having said that, I do think Hawley wins, but I never count out Crawford.
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2 minutes ago, Cowboynation said:
So just say if Timpson loses the year in state semifinals and next year do you start look at the coaching staff as if maybe that can’t get it done just asking a question
No, that's ridiculous and where a lot of schools go wrong. Got to stick with coaches over the long term unless there is substantial reason to fire, even with teams less successful than Timpson. "Looking" at the coaching staff that's taking you to a level you've never been before, no way.
The greater issue for Timpson, even if they were to lose, holding on to coaching staff that has been to semi-final for 3-4 straight years because opportunities will come their way.
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1 hour ago, Bears8T9 said:
We’ve started slow for 14 weeks and found a way
A few ways to look at that. We've done it for 14 weeks and can do it one or two more. Or, they've done it 14 weeks, but weren't playing against one of the top few 2A programs in the state.
It could still be overcome by either team as they both have those abilities, it will just make it a lot harder with a slow start.
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11 minutes ago, JMS1971 said:
R3 has had some good teams crash and burn against R4. I agree, until we win one of the semis, we can’t talk too much. If it’s gonna happen this year, Timpson cannot come out like they did against Cooper. I think a slow start by either team could be disastrous.
Agreed. Slow start could be doom for either team.
Could cause coaches to do crazy things like going for it on 4th and long from their own 13.
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On 12/4/2022 at 2:55 PM, Bear9T1 said:
We are not playing the “history” of Refugio or region 4. We are playing your present day Refugio team and they aren’t completely ready for what’s about to ensue.
Mr. Bear, here's the deal... this comment is of the same nature as what Waskom and San Augustine folks were posting leading up to their game(s) with Refugio, saying Refugio isn't "completely ready for what's about to ensue." They talked as though nobody had ever seen a team like they were going to field. Everyone knows how those games ended. Point is, the smack talk is fun, but it's always good to temper with a little humility. Also, those teams had more talent and speed than Refugio, but they were missing something. My opinion is 1) they weren't quite as well coached (no slight to their coaches, but Refugio's are exceptional) 2) they didn't have the championship culture and mindset embedded in their kids and it's impossible to measure how much that helps. I'm sure there's much more, but those stand out to me.
For this game... I think Refugio will find a way to win, but I know Timpson has what it takes and it could easily go their way. If Timpson wins, it will be because they fielded an exceptional team that came together and got it done, along with a great game plan from their coaches. I'll be surprised if Bussey doesn't get at least 2 long runs on them, likely a pick, and also Howard I would expect to have at least one big play.
I'm born and raised East Texan and have said many times I would like to see an East Texas team get this done. I'll be at this game and enjoy seeing some great 2A football. I'll be happy for Timpson if they make it happen this year. It's beyond old having R4 saying again, "same old R3," but up to now, they've earned the right to say that. Tomorrow could start a new era.
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On 12/4/2022 at 9:50 AM, Bear9T1 said:
He can try lol
So Refugio can't run outside with #4 or inside with #27, and they can't throw with Bussey in the secondary? Timpson is shutting them down in all aspects? They should just leave their offense on the bus.
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6 hours ago, Allheartnoquit said:
This is the hard truth for you old heads.
The way someone wears their uniform has no bearing on the outcome and performance of the team. This old school mentality needs to go bye bye.
My coach was a hard TobinFrost about it also (old head) and I love the uniform of a team like I love when Celina wears their orange helmet, jersey, pants, and socks but again it has no bearing on the performance of a team and player and if a coach or team or player allows a uniform change or having all these colors distract them from the game and their assignments then they aren't very good.
Probably has minimal bearing on outcomes and performance, but uniformity and conformity meshes in with discipline and team to some degree. The more of the former, the more you get of the latter. Wanting to stand out from team mates and be noticed as an individual seems to go against what made football what it has been. It's all a part of where we're headed as a whole.... i.e. kids talking back to the refs, flexing on each other, chest pounding just because they made a routine tackle.
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1 hour ago, DAhomer said:
People outside of East Texas may think Refugio is the more talented team, because they don't know about Timpson
Anyone watching 2A ball for the past three years is aware of Timpson. I don't have a good gauge on which team is overall more talented. Talent helps, but it will rarely win the big one without coaching, culture, team.
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11 hours ago, JMS1971 said:
Timpson gonna have to prove what us homers already know. I keep reading about all the weapons Refugio has, and I agree, but very little is said of Timpson with the exception of Terry and Vosky.
Very few could even name a kid, aka weapon, on Refugio, but everyone knows Bussey and a lot know of Howard. Refugio is a team effort with no significant standouts. That's why I think they'll win, Timpson coaching staff won't be able to key in on a specific few players.
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17 hours ago, Lambo said:
Yeah... The number 2 athlete in the nation would be "just another guy".
Who is saying he's the number 2 athlete in the nation. I call BS on that no matter who it is. Zero slight to the young man. I know he's great, but not number 2.
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3 hours ago, Bear9T1 said:
Not pushing, that’s region 4’s gig.
No, R3 has done at least an equal share this year and in year's past. If you think otherwise you haven't been paying attention. Every year both do their fair share of chest pounding, the main difference is R4 has backed it up while R3 disappears quietly with exception of a handful who come back to give R4 its proper due.
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12 minutes ago, JBizzle said:
They aren't playing the trophy case. They are lining up 11 v 11 on the field.
Them kids from Timpson don't give a dang what you've done in the past. They believe this is their year. Your trophy case ain't gonna stop that.It's not what's in the trophy case, it's the culture of winning and what that instills in the kids of programs that have been there time after time. Winning and expecting to win is all they know in their community/school/football program. It's impossible to measure that. Refugio kids grow up expecting to win all of the big games. Timpson may get there. It's not a put-down to Timpson, but their kids don't know what that's like. They know getting there and losing, but haven't tasted the winning part yet. It's not embedded in their culture like it is for Refugio. Timpson is a top tier program these last few year, but they have to win this week for most of those outside of their area to give the nod and say, "they have arrived."
Perhaps this year is the year they turn that page, but we won't know until Thursday.
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1 hour ago, Lambo said:
Yeah... The number 2 athlete in the nation would be "just another guy".
Where are these rankings? I've done a little looking, but that's not an area I'm familiar with. Looked on something called 247 and see him, but it has him somewhere in the 80s?
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When I look on DirecTV Stream I don't see Bally Sports. Is it called something else on their site? Want to be sure I get the right package.
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26 minutes ago, WildBear said:
The hate is real right here in Deep East Texas. But the Bears could care less what people think and go out and let their play on the field speak for them.
Giving an opinion that genuinely thinks the other team who has multiple titles and has consistently beaten Region 3 may win this year isn't hate. Where is that thought even coming from? Someone could even be pulling for Timpson, but still have a legitimate opinion that Refugio is going to win.
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1 hour ago, upullinmychain said:
I've seen him live 7-8 times,he just seems to glide down field when he runs and really isn't putting too much effort into it
...yeah,just fun to watch without any emotional attachment like he's one of the kids you've watched grow up and play,like he'll be running one direction and the next step he isn't and your brain has to make an adjustment..you are like,what just happened...lol
Sounds Barry Sanders like. I've seen him on a lot of live streams, but sure it's not the same.
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Posted · Edited by Everide2016
You do realize he was coaching against the best coach in 2a, possibly the state as a whole, so yes, they were outcoached last night. Herring is on pace to be the winningest coach in Texas HS history if he chooses to keep going. Timpson's coach has taken them where they've never been before. Try to take a deep breath and enjoy the success Timpson is having and realize losing to a Herring coached team isn't unique to Therwanger. The best thing Timpson could do is work to ensure Therwanger doesn't take a job offer to a bigger and more lucrative school, because they will come calling with the success he has had these last 3 years.