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On 12/4/2022 at 9:50 AM, Bear9T1 said:
He can try lol
So Refugio can't run outside with #4 or inside with #27, and they can't throw with Bussey in the secondary? Timpson is shutting them down in all aspects? They should just leave their offense on the bus.
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6 hours ago, Allheartnoquit said:
This is the hard truth for you old heads.
The way someone wears their uniform has no bearing on the outcome and performance of the team. This old school mentality needs to go bye bye.
My coach was a hard TobinFrost about it also (old head) and I love the uniform of a team like I love when Celina wears their orange helmet, jersey, pants, and socks but again it has no bearing on the performance of a team and player and if a coach or team or player allows a uniform change or having all these colors distract them from the game and their assignments then they aren't very good.
Probably has minimal bearing on outcomes and performance, but uniformity and conformity meshes in with discipline and team to some degree. The more of the former, the more you get of the latter. Wanting to stand out from team mates and be noticed as an individual seems to go against what made football what it has been. It's all a part of where we're headed as a whole.... i.e. kids talking back to the refs, flexing on each other, chest pounding just because they made a routine tackle.
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1 hour ago, DAhomer said:
People outside of East Texas may think Refugio is the more talented team, because they don't know about Timpson
Anyone watching 2A ball for the past three years is aware of Timpson. I don't have a good gauge on which team is overall more talented. Talent helps, but it will rarely win the big one without coaching, culture, team.
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11 hours ago, JMS1971 said:
Timpson gonna have to prove what us homers already know. I keep reading about all the weapons Refugio has, and I agree, but very little is said of Timpson with the exception of Terry and Vosky.
Very few could even name a kid, aka weapon, on Refugio, but everyone knows Bussey and a lot know of Howard. Refugio is a team effort with no significant standouts. That's why I think they'll win, Timpson coaching staff won't be able to key in on a specific few players.
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17 hours ago, Lambo said:
Yeah... The number 2 athlete in the nation would be "just another guy".
Who is saying he's the number 2 athlete in the nation. I call BS on that no matter who it is. Zero slight to the young man. I know he's great, but not number 2.
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3 hours ago, Bear9T1 said:
Not pushing, that’s region 4’s gig.
No, R3 has done at least an equal share this year and in year's past. If you think otherwise you haven't been paying attention. Every year both do their fair share of chest pounding, the main difference is R4 has backed it up while R3 disappears quietly with exception of a handful who come back to give R4 its proper due.
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12 minutes ago, JBizzle said:
They aren't playing the trophy case. They are lining up 11 v 11 on the field.
Them kids from Timpson don't give a dang what you've done in the past. They believe this is their year. Your trophy case ain't gonna stop that.It's not what's in the trophy case, it's the culture of winning and what that instills in the kids of programs that have been there time after time. Winning and expecting to win is all they know in their community/school/football program. It's impossible to measure that. Refugio kids grow up expecting to win all of the big games. Timpson may get there. It's not a put-down to Timpson, but their kids don't know what that's like. They know getting there and losing, but haven't tasted the winning part yet. It's not embedded in their culture like it is for Refugio. Timpson is a top tier program these last few year, but they have to win this week for most of those outside of their area to give the nod and say, "they have arrived."
Perhaps this year is the year they turn that page, but we won't know until Thursday.
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1 hour ago, Lambo said:
Yeah... The number 2 athlete in the nation would be "just another guy".
Where are these rankings? I've done a little looking, but that's not an area I'm familiar with. Looked on something called 247 and see him, but it has him somewhere in the 80s?
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When I look on DirecTV Stream I don't see Bally Sports. Is it called something else on their site? Want to be sure I get the right package.
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26 minutes ago, WildBear said:
The hate is real right here in Deep East Texas. But the Bears could care less what people think and go out and let their play on the field speak for them.
Giving an opinion that genuinely thinks the other team who has multiple titles and has consistently beaten Region 3 may win this year isn't hate. Where is that thought even coming from? Someone could even be pulling for Timpson, but still have a legitimate opinion that Refugio is going to win.
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1 hour ago, upullinmychain said:
I've seen him live 7-8 times,he just seems to glide down field when he runs and really isn't putting too much effort into it ...yeah,just fun to watch without any emotional attachment like he's one of the kids you've watched grow up and play,like he'll be running one direction and the next step he isn't and your brain has to make an adjustment..you are like,what just happened...lol
Sounds Barry Sanders like. I've seen him on a lot of live streams, but sure it's not the same.
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43 minutes ago, Crawford said:
Don't forget they also beat a very good 3A Daingerfield team earlier in the season.
And Refugio beat 3AD1 Edna, still playing.
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34 minutes ago, Bear9T1 said:
Oh how quickly most forget
So Timpson beat a very good Dangerfield team. Refugio beat a 3A Edna team that is playing in their semi-final this week. What does that say?
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3 minutes ago, DAhomer said:
Refugio is always the slower team vs "east Texas speed" but it doesn't matter who is faster the better team will win. It's an honor to play the great Timpson Bears.
Truth on this. This has been the case several times, but Refugio has overcome the "east Texas speed" with coaching and overall better teamwork. I think this was the case with SA and Waskom.
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1 minute ago, Lambo said:
I think Terry Bussey is the best football player in this state.
Impossible to know. Hard to measure what a tremendous player at the 2A level would do at the 5A or 6A level.
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1 minute ago, MattStepp said:
You are welcome! I strive to bring you this type of analysis day in and day out
Yeah, I know. Despite the banter, I do appreciate all you do for Texas High School Football. Bussey is special.
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1 minute ago, Lambo said:
You get used to hearing it. With him they're probably gonna win state. Without him they MIGHT win a playoff game. But they have him so hypotheticals don't matter.
I know. It was a Brady Bunch thing for anyone old enough to know... if you know you know. I'm looking forward to seeing him in person for the first time. I know he is a once in a generation player at the 2A level.
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3 minutes ago, MattStepp said:
Terry Bussey is the best football player in this game w/o question.....he's special....
Thank you Captain Obvious.
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1AD2: Benjamin
1AD1: Abbott
2AD2: Mart
2AD1:
TimpsonRefugio3AD2: Canadian
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BrockFranklin4AD2: Carthage
4AD1: China Spring
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SOCLiberty Hill5AD1:
LongviewAledo6AD2: Guyer
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Just now, KirtFalcon said:
Timpson's relay team is only slightly slower ... fractions of a second .... track speed doesn't always equate to football speed or football instinct and this isn't a stay in your lane track meet ... I have seen streaming recordings of a couple of Refugio's games and I haven't seen anybody on their on team that has the combination of speed, football instinct and elusiveness of Terry Bussey ..... not even close ....
Bussey, Bussey, Bussey....
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3 hours ago, Bear9T1 said:
He can try lol
He will.
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39 minutes ago, Foozball said:
Like I didn’t want to say anything to be too cocky for the Timpson people……but if they throw that ball up like they did to win the game vs Shiner it’s getting picked. Timpson are straight up ball hawks
Refugio receivers will have something to say about that. They will go up and get the ball as much as Timpson DBs.
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1 hour ago, MattStepp said:
187 miles for Timpson
171 miles for Refugio
Seems pretty neutral to me
I'm thinking it has less to do with neutrality and more to do with Region 3 being owned by Region 4 in the Houston area. Some fans probably think it would be good to play in a different area like College Station, Waller, Prairie View, or similar? Something to do with the psyche even though it shouldn't matter.
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21 hours ago, Wolfman said:
My heart is broke from SA losing in the semi’s. We should have had them that last go round. I really hope y’all pull it off.
I agree. I was at that game and SA should have been able to beat Refugio. They had everything needed to win that game except for ????? Heck I don't know what the deal was. SA was bigger, appeared to have overall better athletes and speed, but the Bobcats still found a way to win. I think some of it was certainly coaching. Herring can simply coach his rear off. Some of it is culture, those kids have it locked in their minds that they are going to win and rarely ever get to the point in a game when they don't think they can overcome whatever the circumstance, i.e 2019 comeback on Shiner.
That's why I have to go with the Bobcats. Very tough to bet against a long-term proven winner.
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#1 Timpson vs #4 Refugio
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Posted · Edited by Everide2016
Mr. Bear, here's the deal... this comment is of the same nature as what Waskom and San Augustine folks were posting leading up to their game(s) with Refugio, saying Refugio isn't "completely ready for what's about to ensue." They talked as though nobody had ever seen a team like they were going to field. Everyone knows how those games ended. Point is, the smack talk is fun, but it's always good to temper with a little humility. Also, those teams had more talent and speed than Refugio, but they were missing something. My opinion is 1) they weren't quite as well coached (no slight to their coaches, but Refugio's are exceptional) 2) they didn't have the championship culture and mindset embedded in their kids and it's impossible to measure how much that helps. I'm sure there's much more, but those stand out to me.
For this game... I think Refugio will find a way to win, but I know Timpson has what it takes and it could easily go their way. If Timpson wins, it will be because they fielded an exceptional team that came together and got it done, along with a great game plan from their coaches. I'll be surprised if Bussey doesn't get at least 2 long runs on them, likely a pick, and also Howard I would expect to have at least one big play.
I'm born and raised East Texan and have said many times I would like to see an East Texas team get this done. I'll be at this game and enjoy seeing some great 2A football. I'll be happy for Timpson if they make it happen this year. It's beyond old having R4 saying again, "same old R3," but up to now, they've earned the right to say that. Tomorrow could start a new era.