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  1. 10 hours ago, steelhammer said:

    Baron  is correct, look on ON 3 ranking recruiting & see average NIL UT usually near highest average.  Maybe not so far this year,last ck was in 20 recruiting rankings.  Wait if they get K. Black, Wingo & Simmons

    That ON3 stuff are not real nil numbers. It’s “nil potential” which is some weird formula used by ON3 based on social media following and some other factors. It should not be used as factual data. 

  2. 1 hour ago, Red90fly said:

    I mean, this is no different than Texags or the a&m 247 board.

    Absolutely false. Get on the 24/7 board right now and you’ll see the mods predicting a 8 win season pointing out all the flaws in the team (tarp) and then you’ll see Perroni not even put in a crystal ball on a kid until he’s all but told its a silent commit. It is NOTHING like roach and the Texas site that every kid gets a Texas crystal ball once offered and then is changed if they get wind the kid isn’t leaning Texas. 

  3. 1 hour ago, Lhornfan said:

    Texas recruiting boards are no different than any other fan base including ATM. It's childish to lazy to write "Texas fans" when making derogatory comments as if all Texas fans are the same. I feel the same for Texas posters that make the same type of vague statements toward ATM and other fan bases.

    PS - your description above fits Texags perfectly in my opinion when discussing recruits choosing other schools or not including ATM. And yes, I visit Texags for giggles about once every 2-3 weeks. Likewise, I don't follow a single Texas recruiting board. 

    Texags is the bottom of the barrel for A&M sites. It’s equivalent to orangebloods with Ketch. 
     

    Im referencing more to 24/7 where the sites are all employed by CBS. Tarp and Perroni are extremely cynical towards A&M and often are behind even opposing team mods in projecting recruits to A&M. Texas mods (Roach) will literally crystal ball (means predict if you’re not familiar)  nearly every single kid Texas even offers as a Texas lean and then changes it before the kids actually commit to opposing schools if they feel differently. Texas mods on nearly every site are EXTREMELY bad about just telling fans what they want to hear to keep subs up. 
    I’ll agree with you Texags is the same way, but that’s the exception to A&M recruiting sites not the norm. The other sites tend to be more pessimistic than optimistic. 
     

     

     

    You can poll OU fans, LSU fans, Bama fans etc and they will all tell you the same thing regarding Texas sites and their mods. It leads to overconfidence regarding Texas recruiting and explains why they are so willing to accept that NIL is the sole reason kids choose schools other than Texas. Because their mods provide them with information that is not accurate in order to keep subs high. 

  4. 18 hours ago, Valhalla said:

    I hope it’s happening. 

    Exactly. Texas fans just can’t handle the thought of a kid not playing at Texas. If he goes somewhere else it’s because he was paid. If he goes to Texas after they broadcast deals for oline on the spot he chose them for their academics not the money. 
     

    It all stems from their recruiting boards. They are the softest and most entitled fanbase in the country. Their mods know this and therefore only write fluff pieces. 95% of their early offers to juniors their mods crystal ball them to Texas and tell them “Texas has a very strong lead here, he grew up a longhorn fan etc.” Most of the time it’s not true the kid is truly open to anyone. So when the kid does indeed go somewhere else or the team is mediocre-bad like they have been majority of the decade, the fans automatically point to they were paid to go somewhere else there’s not way a kid doesn’t choose Texas when they were his early favorite etc. So essentially the mods lying to them for appeasement and clicks has inflated their soft bias. 

     

  5. On 8/5/2023 at 9:56 AM, DB2point0 said:

    NIL collectives are different.  Giving kids $1million for signing a LOI in the name of “NIL” is buying players.  

    Come sign with Texas as an oline player and get 50k on the spot…=Not buying players. 
     

    Internet rumor of buying players without a single shred of evidence EVER provided by you or any of the other lying pos individuals on the internet. = buying players. 
     

    You’re either the best troll on the internet or the stupidest human being alive. I’m pretty sure I know which one it is….

  6. 3 hours ago, Valhalla said:

    Didn’t bother him when he needed to fill his OL room.

    Exactly. Texas boasted about their OL deal at the time, then their fans blasted NIL when A&M signed their class, now they pick and choose when NIL is something they are “good” at or not. Sark is a liar if he says they don’t recruit kids who are interested in NIL, and Baron and anyone like him that believes it is an idiot. 

  7. On 7/28/2023 at 11:02 AM, Tex85 said:

    before texas came in i had always heard of schools blocking other schools getting in the sec but i think thats all been thrown out now. 

    That is the way it was for a while. Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and A&M were enough that if they all voted together to prevent expansion into another in state school they had the votes to do so. Adding Texas and OU was just too attractive from a money standpoint and everyone knows Florida st, Miami, and Clemson are coming at some point in the future anyway so they might as well just let it happen. Money isn’t necessarily just made by bringing in new tv regions but also by adding “star power” to the conference. Even if the tv market share remains the same the sec bargaining power for bigger tv deals is better with more elite names in the conference. 

  8. 2 hours ago, Lhornfan said:

    I disagree. I'm not a big NIL fan, but now that it's part of the college scene - it is what it is. These guys are a play away from ending their careers. Any of the schools that are on Simmons' list are going to help him get prepared for the NFL. If there is significant difference in NIL money, that can be very persuasive. We are not talking about a distance thing involving the West or East coast schools. Also, all three teams are going to be competitive and in the mix for championships. Take the money young man because your coaches would certainly do the same thing if they had the opportunity.

    I agree I think all 3 offer enough none of the 3 are a bad choice and non of the 3 are the type where you have to go there because it’s head and shoulders above the rest. All three will be in the same conference and offer very similar nfl opportunities as well as title opportunities. I don’t think it’s a highest bidder situation either though because they are all going to offer a good situation for NIL. I think it boils down to where he feels he fits the best. 
     

    Thats how I feel for most kids. It’s not they are bought by certain schools more than others, they just “fit” or “feel” better there at the time. None of these elite schools are letting themselves get “outbid” to the point they can’t compete. 

     

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  9. 1 minute ago, JustAFan11 said:

    Let’s use Colin Simmons, it’s LSU, Texas A&M, and Texas. He’s an incredible talent that all 3 schools are going to throw the kitchen sink at. I believe whichever school gets his commitment will get it because of something other than NIL, because all 3 are going to give whatever it takes. 
     

    I completely agree. 

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  10. 36 minutes ago, JustAFan11 said:

    I don’t think they’ve lost many that they are truly prioritizing with NIL. I know they lost out on an OL to Georgia and then Gipson to Clemson. There have been a few others that they recruited hard but didn’t prioritize with NIL that they lost on as well.
     

    This cycle Texas is going to spend their NIL on Edge, DB, and DL/OL, and probably in that order. That doesn’t mean they won’t recruit other positions hard and use some NIL as well but the priorities are going to get the most attention. LB, RB, TE, and WR aren’t big priorities this cycle. 
     

    I only read 1 recruiting site and that’s how I interpret what they are saying. 

    That’s fair. I do believe that there are times when every collective is going to throw money at positions of need depending on the cycle. 
     

    Since you are one of the only ones on this site capable of discussing Texas without bringing up A&M I do have a question for you.  How big of factor do you think NIL is for these kids on average? Like for instance let’s say Texas and another school are both prioritizing the same position/player, should we assume which ever school the player commits to is because nil swayed them? 
     

     

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  11. 26 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

    You used his claim to support your statement.  It said none were more aggressive. And I was giving your team props for being up there (and actually did it before others).  But your butthurt Aggy paranoia can’t even accept a compliment.  It’s always everybody out to get you.  Lighten up Frances

    look I didn’t address you originally. You felt the need to chime in Aggie related material because for some reason every Texas fan thinks if a kid doesn’t commit to you it’s because they were bought by someone else. There can be no other explanation. You know that’s where you comment was leaning and you knew what you were doing. Don’t tell me to lighten up when we could have had a perfectly logical conversation about Texas/NIL without having involving A&M. 

  12. 26 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

    Just showing that Texas does not have the most aggressive NIL collectives as you claimed.  I’m just trying to throw a bone your way since your program doesn’t have anything to boast about since 1939, but if you’re gonna be a #### about it then Fine.  

    I didn’t claim it. Shannon Terry said it. And yes they are one of the most aggressive even with your lost. Top 4 isn’t aggressive? 

  13. 1 hour ago, DB2point0 said:

    https://www.on3.com/nil/news/on3-top-20-most-ambitious-nil-collectives-year-2-tennessee-texas-am-oregon/
     

    2023, again the Aggies collectives prove more aggressive than UT’s.  That’s from the site Shannon Terry works for as well.

    WHAT DOES A&M HAVE TO DO WITH TEXAS???? You keep trying to make this a comparison between the two and it has nothing to do with my original two questions. Even if you use your article Texas is top 4 in collectives so it’s not like they are just getting massively outbid for these kids. And some of them are committing to schools lower on your collective list. None of that has anything to do with A&M. Are you able to to discuss your program without bringing up A&M as your answer to everything?

  14. 12 minutes ago, DB2point0 said:

    atTm is ahead of UT in collectives AND amount of money spent on recruiting this year.  Is Texas one of the “most aggressive” nil collective teams?  No.  So that IF, THEN is a dumb statement.  

    ANTI gets carried away at times.  Folks get too worked up in ancillary rankings.  Banging one’s chest about how much you pay your collegiate athletes is silly.  

    So you’re saying Shannon Terry is lying? Misinformed? 
     

    And could you show some proof about what A&M is spending. That statement just doesn’t add up to what is really being reported. 
     

    https://theeagle.com/sports/college/aggiesports/aggie-athletes-double-nil-compensation/article_5bb00c16-1798-11ee-9ca1-9b24ed2fbc06.html#:~:text=Aggie athletes made %244%2C173%2C656.82 in,1%2C 2023.

    This states A&M athletes made 8 mil last year. 

    https://www.kxan.com/tracking-name-image-likeness/longhorns-earned-15-5m-in-nil-deals-so-far-new-information-now-limited-by-texas-law/amp/

    This states Texas athletes made 15 mil last year. 13 mil just on football and men’s basketball. 
     

    Something is not adding up here. Shannon Terry is making one statement. The self reporter university numbers seem to reflect that statement. You claim something different. Are you lying? Misinformed? 

  15. 10 hours ago, DB2point0 said:

    In 2022 aTm was 3rd in collectives and above UT. 

    But what does that have to do with the current discussion? I asked two direct questions. First was if Texas “is one of the most aggressive collectives this cycle” how are they not landing the kids they are prioritizing (and then blaming nil when they don’t.) It’s contradictory. And the second question was what makes ANTI feel Texas is all but a lock for Kobe Black. Neither of those two questions has anything to do with A&M. 

  16. 2 hours ago, ANTI said:

    We SHOULD get both but, recruiting is just so weird now. 

    Can I ask like truly a serious question? What makes you believe Texas “should” get both? There’s only one crystal ball out in for Black and it’s from a Texas mod. The kid has been to A&M 6 times in the last year. Been to Texas once.  He’s choosing to attend the A&M big recruiting weekend over the Texas one. 
     

    Im simply asking what makes you think he’s a Texas lock unless NIL lures him away? I’m not saying he doesn’t go to Texas, I am simply asking what makes him a lock from one official visit. 

  17. 56 minutes ago, Baron said:

    Then bump up the regular season back to 12. The more the merrier. You also have discrepancies in SOS with a free for all in scheduling.

    There’s a discrepancy with sos now. That’s why I say do away with conferences and make everyone make the playoff. There’s literally nothing to gain or lose by scheduling except ticket sales. The 64 teams draw for seeding and everyone makes the playoff so sos doesn’t matter. 
     

    and I’m cool with 12 games, it will just bump the champion to playing 18 games which is getting up there for college athletes. 

  18. 3 hours ago, Baron said:

    This would cut out the money games for lesser schools. Not a fan of this. Lets see how 2024 works out with the realignments and expanded playoff.

    My thoughts were if you allow everyone to make the playoff then you encourage both sides of the spectrum. You will get some really exciting matchups because there’s no downside to losing except potential seeding, and you’ll get some teams to play the lesser schools for their paydays without them wrecking your shot at a title with a fluke upset. So it actually helps the lesser schools get shots against better programs probably. For those saying Bama is scared to play cincy type games, there’s no downside to Bama to play it anymore if a loss doesn’t hurt so why not throw it on the schedule. 

  19. Here is a random thought. How would the game work if there were no conferences? What if a group of 64 power 5 teams left the ncaa and started its new thing, then basically broke up the conferences and negotiated its own schedules like independents. Everyone schedules 10 games for regular season. At seasons end everyone makes a single elimination 64 team playoff. Champion would play in 16 games which is pretty much what we have now with the expanded playoff. Tv contracts are negotiated for the group as a whole and split among all teams. The networks can bid for high profile games each week. 
     

     

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