KirtFalcon

Where are the Michael Moore, Cincy Sheehan, Haaard Dean, Hanoi Jane Fonda, John Kerry loving liberals telling us that this nut is telling the truth? I heard he was going to star in Michael Moore's next movie! :w00t:

Thankfully, the liberal media and other nutcase liberals only ever find out about 1 - 2% of the actual covert activitiy going on in the military and the CIA throughout the world! If they only knew!!!! :w00t::whistle::w00t:

I smell an anti-Bush liberal rat in the CIA! :whistle:

My wife and I both voted yes . . . the only sensible choice! :thumbsup:

We were there. And the answer is no. By Ron Harris ST LOUIS POST-DISPATCH 11/7/05 WASHINGTON BUREAU WASHINGTON -- For more than a year, former Marine Staff Sgt. Jimmy Massey has been telling anybody who will listen about the atrocities that he and other Marines committed in Iraq. In scores of newspaper, magazine and broadcast stories, at a Canadian immigration hearing and in numerous speeches across the country, Massey has told how he and other Marines recklessly, sometimes intentionally, killed dozens of innocent Iraqi civilians. Among his claims: Marines fired on and killed peaceful Iraqi protesters. Americans shot a 4-year-old Iraqi girl in the head. A tractor-trailer was filled with the bodies of civilian men, women and children killed by American artillery. Massey's claims have gained him celebrity. Last month, Massey's book, "Kill, Kill, Kill," was released in France. His allegations have been reported in nationwide publications such as Vanity Fair and USA Today, as well as numerous broadcast reports. Earlier this year, he joined the anti-war bus tour of Cindy Sheehan, and he's spoken at Cornell and Syracuse universities, among others. News organizations worldwide published or broadcast Massey's claims without any corroboration and in most cases without investigation. Outside of the Marines, almost no one has seriously questioned whether Massey, a 12-year veteran who was honorably discharged, was telling the truth. He wasn't. Each of his claims is either demonstrably false or exaggerated - according to his fellow Marines, Massey's own admissions, and the five journalists who were embedded with Massey's unit, including a reporter and photographer from the Post-Dispatch and reporters from The Associated Press and The Wall Street Journal. "Psychopathic killers" Massey, 34, of Waynesville, N.C., was with the 3rd Battalion, 7th Marines based out of Twentynine Palms, Calif. The unit went to the Middle East in January 2003 and participated in the U.S. invasion of Iraq in March of that year. Massey was discharged in December 2003, shortly after returning from Iraq due to depression and post-traumatic stress syndrome. He began turning up in the press and on broadcasts last spring with stories about military atrocities. Massey's primary thrust has been that Marines from his battalion - some of whom, he told a Minneapolis audience, were "psychopathic killers" - recklessly shot and killed Iraqi civilians, sometimes, he said, upon orders from their commanders. During a hearing in Canada, Massey said, "We deliberately gunned down people who were civilians." The Marine Corps investigated Massey's claims and said they were unsubstantiated. From the beginning, Massey misled reporters. In early interviews, he told how he had lost his job at a furniture store because of his anti-war activities. But when asked about the incident in an interview Oct. 19 with the Post-Dispatch, Massey said he had quit his job but never had felt pressure to leave. "I left on good terms," he said. He also backtracked from allegations he made in a May 2004 radio interview and elsewhere that he had seen a tractor-trailer filled with the bodies of Iraqi civilians when Marines entered an Iraqi military prison outside Baghdad. He said the Iraqis had been killed by American artillery. He told listeners that the scene was so bad "that the plasma from the body and skin was decomposing and literally oozing out of the crevices of the tractor-trailer bed." He repeated the story in the Post-Dispatch interview. But when told that the newspaper's photographs and eyewitness reports had identified the trailer contents as all men, mostly in uniform, Massey admitted that he had never seen the bodies. Instead, he said, he received his information from "intelligence reports." When asked if those reports were official documents, he answered, "No, that's what the other Marines told me." Changing stories The details of Massey's stories changed repeatedly. For example, he almost always told his audiences and interviewers of an event he said he'd never forget: Marines in his unit shooting four civilian Iraqis in red Kia automobile. In some accounts, Massey said Marines fired at the vehicle after it failed to stop at a checkpoint. In another version, he said the Marines stormed the car. Sometimes he said three of the men were killed immediately while the fourth was wounded and covered in blood; sometimes he said the fourth man was "miraculously unscathed." Sometimes he said the Marines left the three men on the side of the road to die without medical treatment while the fourth man exclaimed: "Why did you shoot my brother?" In other versions, he said the man made the statement as medical personnel were attempting to treat the three other men, or as the survivor sat near the car, or to Massey personally. There is no evidence that any of the versions occurred. In another story that Massey often tells, he and other Marines in his platoon fired upon a group of innocent demonstrators shortly after they arrived in Baghdad. Massey said that the demonstrators were protesting the Marines' presence, holding signs in English and Arabic. The Marines heard a shot, Massey said, and in panic began firing into the demonstrators. In some versions, the demonstrators were near a checkpoint. In other versions, they were outside a prison on a road about 200 meters away, or anywhere from 5 to 15 miles from Baghdad International Airport. Massey told a version of the story before an immigration hearing in December in support of an American soldier trying to flee to Canada. Then, Massey said he and the Marines killed four of the demonstrators. In other interviews, he said the Marines shot at 10 demonstrators and killed all of them but one, whom he let crawl away. In interviews with more than a dozen Marines and journalists who were in the military complex that morning, none can recall such an incident. They say that during the first week to two weeks inside Baghdad, they never saw any protesters. Ron Haviv, an independent photographer embedded with the unit, said he never saw any protesters or demonstrators, with or without signs. "Basically, the only people who were on the streets in the first week were there to loot," said Haviv, who has covered conflicts across the globe, including the first Gulf War, Haiti, Yugoslavia and Russia. Lt. Kevin Shea, the commander of Massey's platoon, recalls that on the morning after they arrived, about 20 Iraqis from a nearby community did approach the Marines to ask what was happening. Shea said that he had explained what the Marines were doing and that the Iraqis had gone back to their homes. Civilians shot The Marine Corps readily admits that some of its men shot civilians, but not intentionally, they said. The Post-Dispatch reported on the second day of the war that Marines in one battalion had mistakenly shot and killed members of a British-based television network while shooting at Iraqi attackers. When Marines moved into Baghdad a month later, the Post-Dispatch reported two separate automobile-related incidents in which Marines from Massey's battalion inadvertently shot and wounded 12 civilians. All of the passengers survived after treatment by medical personnel. In a fourth incident, Maj. Dan Schmitt said, Marines shot "what we believe to be a non-combatant." He said the shooting occurred when the Marines raised their arms in a signal to stop, but the vehicle continued moving quickly at them. An Iraqi doctor who helped treat the wounded passengers told them that they needed to use another hand signal because they one they were using indicated solidarity, not stop. But none of the five journalists who covered the battalion said they saw reckless or indiscriminate shooting of civilians by Marines, as Massey has claimed. Nor did any of the Marines or Navy corpsmen who served with Massey and were interviewed for this story. One of the checkpoint shootings is apparently the basis for one of most poignant recollections claimed by Massey in numerous speeches and interviews: The shooting of a 4-year-old girl in the head. While touring with Sheehan in Montgomery, Ala., he told of seeing the girl's body. "You can't take it back," he said, according to the local newspaper. But in the interview with the Post-Dispatch, Massey admitted that he never had seen the girl. "Lima Company was involved in a shooting at a checkpoint," he said. "My platoon was ordered to another area before the victims were removed from the car. The other Marines told me that a 4-year-old girl had killed." Girls unharmed No 4-year-old died in the incident or was even wounded, according to witnesses including a Post-Dispatch photographer at the scene who filed photos of the incident that were published in the newspaper. Two women and two girls were in the car that the Marines shot when it failed to stop at a checkpoint and continued to approach the Marines at high speed, said Maj. George Schreffler, then the commanding officer of Lima Company. Schreffler was there at the time. Petty Officer Justin Purviance, who treated them, said the two women were wounded but survived. The girls were unharmed, he said. In other speeches, Massey has said he personally shot a 6-year-old child. In some versions, the child was a boy; at other times, a girl. "How is a 6-year-old child with a bullet in his head a terrorist, because that is the youngest I killed," Massey told a Cornell University audience in March. In a speech in April in Springfield, Vt., he said: "That's war: a 6-year-old girl with a bullet hole in her head at an American checkpoint." In a speech in Syracuse in March, the Post Standard newspaper quoted him as saying, "The reason the Marines teach you discipline . . . is so that you can confront the enemy and kill him. . . . Or so you can put a bullet into a 6-year-old, which is what I did. " In the interview with the Post-Dispatch, Massey said he never personally had shot a child. "I meant that's what my unit did," he said. He could not provide details. Nor could he name any Marine who could corroborate any of his stories. "Admitting guilt is a hard thing to do," he said. [email protected]

Maybe poor Petey can use the Barry Bonds defense! :w00t::coolball::w00t:

I don't think the lefties on here do a lot of reading period . . . other than the moveon.org talking points propoganda! :w00t:

Roy Clark Chet Atkins

The both should be inducted into the Hall of Shame . . . together! :whistle::w00t::thumbdown::whistle:

Great post Colmes! :w00t:

Son of baseball's hit king turns himself in on drug charges By JOHN GEROME, Associated Press Writer November 7, 2005 NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Pete Rose Jr., the son of baseball's all-time hits leader, surrendered to federal authorities Monday to face charges that he was distributing GBL, a drug sometimes sold as a steroid alternative. The 35-year-old Rose could face a maximum of 20 years in prison. The Drug Enforcement Administration said his arrest was part of a larger investigation into a major GBL trafficking organization. The indictment said Rose admitted he received GBL from a person in Tennessee while a member of the Chattanooga Lookouts, the Double-A affiliate of the Cincinnati Reds. He also said he supplied half the players on that team with the drug. Rose said his teammates would take GBL to ``wind down'' after games, DEA spokesman Rusty Payne said. GBL, or gamma butyrolactone, is sold under the counter at retailers and gyms with claims to build muscle, improve physical performance, enhance sex, reduce stress and induce sleep. When taken orally, GBL is converted to the ``date-rape'' drug GHB, or gamma hydroxybutyrate. Lookouts assistant general manager John Maedel said Monday the team was aware of the story. ``We don't know anything about it and can't comment,'' he said. Maedel said Rose was on the Chattanooga roster in 1997, 2001 and 2002. Reds spokesman Rob Butcher said: ``We do not comment on active law enforcement investigations.'' Rose Jr. has not been involved with the Reds' organization since playing nine games in the minors in 2002. Rose played most of his career in the minor leagues, but made it to the majors for 11 games with the Reds in 1997. Last season he played for the Long Island Ducks of the independent Atlantic League. Pete Rose Sr. holds the major league record of 4,256 hits. He agreed to a lifetime ban from baseball in 1989 following an investigation that he bet on games; after 14 years of denying it, he admitted in his autobiography that he bet on Reds games while managing them in the late 1980s. Rose Sr. served a five-month sentence in federal prison in 1990 and 1991 for filing false tax returns by not declaring income he received from signing autographs, memorabilia sales and gambling. The GBL investigation began in 1999 and has included one of the largest seizures of GBL in U.S. history. DEA agents seized about 280 gallons of GBL from a storage unit in Murfreesboro in January 2004. Further investigation revealed that Murfreesboro resident Bruce Michael Wayne was a nationwide distributor of the drug. The DEA learned Wayne was supplying Rose Jr. with the drug and that Rose was distributing it to teammates, Payne said. Wayne was arrested by DEA agents in January 2004 and pleaded guilty to conspiracy to distribute GBL and money laundering charges. But Wayne failed to appear for sentencing and is a fugitive. Associated Press writer Bill Poovey in Chattanooga contributed to this report.

I doubt Garrison would do that . . . I would just hate to see them playing the likes of Mt Enterprise, Cushing and Beckville again! :cry::w00t::cry:

I really hope Garrison stays in the AA classification. They schedule at least a couple of AAA nondistrict games each year and have more than held their own against them. Dropping down to class A would hurt their prgram in my opinion. :whistle::w00t::whistle:

I could tell you the Harding Administration was much more corrupt, but your elephant-colored glasses would not allow you to let go of the sheer Clinton hatred that you clutch like a mother to her newborn baby .......... :whome: If the history books are ever "honestly" updated, the Clinton administration will be the new champion!!!:w00t:

You're exactly right Colmes, the world would be a lot better off with more Pat Robertsons and fewer Ted Kennedys! :w00t:

Condi would beat Shrillary like a rented mule! :whistle: She would be a shoo-in if she ran, but I think she is too principaled to run for office! :w00t:

The Clinton Administration was the most corrupt from top to bottom in our history! :whistle: :w00t: :whistle:

It's unbelievable how many times both Clintons broke the law, from misuse of FBI files to firing the White House Travel Office staff without cause to pardoning drug dealers and other felons . . . all without investigations or indictments! Do you think the liberal media wanted them held accountable . . . hardly! :w00t: This CIA leak business is small potatoes compared to the corruption during the Clinton years! :w00t::whistle::w00t:

Newsmax.com Thursday, Oct. 27, 2005 1:18 p.m. EDT For better or worse, Leakgate Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald has brought a new legal standard to Washington, D.C. - where he is said to be readying indictments against top White House officials based on false statements they made to investigators about a crime that may have never happened. Though such a prosecution by Fitzgerald could certainly be legally justified, allegations similar to those currently under consideration for indictment - as well as other potential crimes that are far more serious - were seldom if ever prosecuted during the 1990s. Here's a short list of potential criminal violations for which prosecutors decided not to file indictments during the Clinton administration. • Lying under oath to a federal judge - a crime U.S. District Court Judge Susan Webber Wright determined that President Clinton committed in the Paula Jones sexual harasssment case. Legal resolution: No criminal indictment. • Lying under oath to a federal grand jury - as Independent Counsel Ken Starr found President Clinton had done in the Monica Lewinsky investigation. Legal resolution: No criminal indictment. • Lying under oath both to Congress and to federal investigators - as Independent Counsel Robert Ray concluded that Mrs. Clinton had done in the Travel Office probe. Legal resolution: No indictment • Hiding evidence from Starr's Whitewater investigation - as the Senate Banking Committee concluded Mrs. Clinton did in the case of her missing Rose Law firm billing records. Legal resolution: No criminal referral, no indictments. • Trading presidential pardons for finanical contributions - which President Clinton allegedly did in the Pardongate case. Legal resolution: No indictments. • Trading presidential clemency for votes in a federal election - as President Clinton allegedly did with village elders in New Square, NY - which backed Mrs. Clinton's 2000 Senate candidacy 1400 to 12. Legal resolution: No indictments. • Nuclear missile guidance technology allegedly traded by the Clinton adminsitration to China in exchange for campaign contributions. Legal resolution: No indictments. • The Illegal gathering of confidential FBI files on political opponents - as the Clinton White House did in the Filegate case. Legal resolution: No indictments. • Misusing the IRS to audit political opponents - as the White House allegedly did with numerous conservative organizations, as well as with witnesses against the Clintons. Legal resolution: No indictments. • Hiring private detectives to intimidate and/or smear potential witnesses in the Starr investigation. Legal resolution: No indictments. • Illegally leaking Linda Tripp's confidential personnel file to the press. Legal resolution: No indictments. Too bad Patrick Fitzgerald was otherwise engaged when all of the above transpired.

It was a great series! :smileybanger:

She is probably the potential nominee that would be most likely to trigger a filibuster by the extreme left wing liberals. I really hope it happens! President Bush's approval rankings would surely spike upward because the mainstream conservatives that elected him are more than ready for him to stand up and enact the platform he campaigned and won on. This would also restore confidence in republicans in general from the conservative base! It's time for Bush and the republican congress to finally act like they won the past two elections and quit trying to please everyone!!! :w00t::thumbsup::w00t:

Alberto Gonzalez would be another mistake! :w00t:

or Priscilla Owen or Luttig

I hope President Bush is through with nominating "stealth" nominees. He needs to nominate someone who is clearly a conservative and a strict constructionist . . . someone who is qualified and we don't have to wonder about their judicial philosophy. . . someone who reflects the values of conservatives. This is not a time to back down and nominate a moderate or a so called "acceptable" candidate. I say . . . if the liberals want a fight, lets give it to them! :w00t: If they want to filibuster . . . bring it on!!! :w00t::smileybanger::w00t: This is too imortant to America to compromise with the liberals on!!! :w00t: NOW is the time to boldly nominate another Scalia or Thomas!!! :w00t::thumbsup::smileybanger:

I have been expecting this announcement for a few days! :whistle: