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Picked up another game on Hallsville's schedule....leaving only one week unfilled (Week 2). Also got Whitehouse's Week 2 game Vs Kilgore....but no other non-district games are posted for them yet. Week 1 Tyler Vs. Marshall Tyler Legacy Vs. Texas High Jacksonville Vs. Center Hallsville Vs. Lindale Crandall Vs. Mount Pleasant Palestine Vs. Nacogdoches Whitehouse- TBA Week 2 Longview Vs. Marshall Lufkin Vs. Nacogdoches Texas High Vs. Liberty Christian Lindale Vs. Mount Pleasant Jacksonville Vs. Brownsboro Whitehouse Vs. Kilgore Hallsville- TBA Week 3 Marshall Vs. Tyler Legacy Terrell Vs. Mount Pleasant Midlothian Heritage Vs Texas High Livingston Vs. Nacogdoches Henderson Vs. Jacksonville Hallsville Vs. Corsicana Whitehouse- TBA Week 4 Marshall Vs. Palestine Athens Vs. Jacksonville Texas High Vs. Fayetteville Nacogdoches Vs. Bryan Rudder Mount Pleasant Vs. Sulphur Springs Hallsville Vs. Pine Tree Whitehouse- TBA

The disconnect is that you’re talking about a 4A team on a 5A thread. It sounded like you were questioning Texas High’s schedule for not playing PG. But you’re actually questioning PG’s schedule for not playing THS. I would have known you were complaining about theirs on a 4A thread…. But on this thread it seemed like you were complaining about THS’ schedule. You would need to talk to THS fans about the whys and hows of not playing PG or LE or even AHS for that matter. But I have a feeling Tiger fans are pretty excited about their line-up.

Who on that list is the likes of Daingerfield? Two defending state champions and a 5A region semifinalist. How's that the likes of Daingerfield? Even Legacy was a 6A playoff team that gave them all they wanted last season. That's a killer schedule IMHO.

Texas High isn't playing Daingerfield. They have Legacy, Liberty Christian, Midlothian Heritage, and Fayetteville.

Interesting to see the non-district schedules Jacksonville: Center (7-4) Brownsboro (5-5) Henderson (2-8) Athens (6-5) The Indians have struggled mightily lately....so building a non-district schedule exclusively of 4A Div I and II schools could be the catalyst to getting some much needed wins. But don't expect this to be a cakewalk for Jacksonville Two of the four teams were playoff teams from last season and they will likely be the underdogs in at least 2 of the games. It'll be interesting to see how they respond. Will a (4-0) start mark a change in fortunes or will it simply be a big guy beating up on a little guy? Will (0-4) signal a possible winless season? And what would make J-ville fans happy... (2-2)? (3-1)? I think this was some smart scheduling on the park of the HFC. This is what you need when you are trying to build up from square one. Mount Pleasant Crandall (6-4) Lindale (7-5) Terrell (7-4) Sulphur Springs (8-3) MP has pieced together a pretty solid non-district schedule IMHO. All four games should be winnable for the Tigers...and they should all be really good tough games. The Tigers aren't facing any juggernauts that are going to run them out of the stadium..... and in each game I don't think anyone would be SHOCKED if they won or lost any of them. That's a perfect balance that you want as a coach and as a fan. I don'y think MP wants a cake walk 4-0 start.....but they don't want to limp into district at 0-4 either. Crandall has become an annual playoff contender and Lindale is always loaded with talent. Sulphur Springs looks like they have turned the corner in their 4A digs. Great schedule for MP. Nacogdoches Palestine (4-6) Lufkin (5-5) Livingston (2-9) Bryan Rudder (3-7) Nacogdoches took a big step back in their non-district strength of schedule from last season. None of their 2024 opponents had a winning season last year. Gone is state powerhouse Chapel Hill (13-3), who was a state finalist last season. Gone is perennial playoff Lumberton (8-4). Palestine returns as does the annual grudge match with Lufkin. Livingston was a playoff team last year with a (2-8) regular season record. Rudder is still a relatively new school...but was in the playoffs in 2021...but they have been (5-15) ever since. Anything less than a (4-1) record for Nac with this line up would be somewhat disappointing. Nac is hard to gauge. They have athletes all over the field....and seem competitive in most games.....but they always seem to find ways to lose close games. Marshall Tyler (6-4) Longview (11-2) Tyler Legacy (3-8) Palestine (4-6) The most obvious change to the Maverick schedule was dropping Carthage, which clearly weakened their schedule as the Bulldogs are one of the top programs in the state. I've often criticized Marshall's schedule for "biting off more than they can chew" in non-district, which has had the Mavs limping into district play annually with a 1-3 or 0-4 record. Some have argued that the tough schedule has contributed to Marshall finishing either as district champion or district runner up every season since 2015 except for 2020. Tyler, while not a playoff team in 2023, was wildy improved and likely would have been in the playoffs in most other 5A-D1 districts. Palestine slips into Henderson's slot, which appears to be an improved game. But Legacy taking Carthage's spot is clearly a step down. And of course there's the grudge match against the juggernaut that is Longview. I don't think anyone would be shocked to see Marshall go (1-3) in this schedule....nor would anyone be shocked with a (3-1)... a pretty good sign of a solid schedule. Texas High Tyler Legacy (3-8) Liberty Christian Academy (14-0) (TAPPS Div II State Champions) Midlothian Heritage (12-1) Fayetteville (13-0) (7A State Champions) The Tigers have pulled together a brutal schedule that not only has them facing two defending state champions, but also a region semi-finalist from 2023. To make things even more difficult, three of their four non-district games are on the road. The Tigers rematch Vs. Legacy in a game that was a barnburner last season in their QB's absence. Then they hit the road to take on LCA, who won the TAPPS Division II state title last year. LCA has approximately 1,200 students K-12 and a little over 500 in 9-12...and they are no strangers to state titles. They have 70 state titles in various sports for boys and girls. Then you have Midlothian Heritage, which has become one of the top playoff teams in the state in their short history. Then the Tigers close it out with perhaps their toughest game of the regular season when they take on Arkansas 7A defending state champion Fayetteville. Hallsville Lindale (7-5) ? Corsicana (2-8) Pine Tree (6-5) The Bobcats haven't released their schedule yet...but I've been able to piece 9 of their 10 games from other schedules. I've found non-district games Vs Lindale, Corsicana, and Pine Tree posted......and all three on the road. Ouch. When you just went (1-9)...you are desperate for wins and thus far the Bobcats will likely be the underdogs in all three of the games listed. It'll be interesting to see who that one game is against....it may be their best chance at a win all season unless they have a major turnaround. Whitehouse Whitehouse is staying very close-lipped about thier schedule. Only 1 non-district game has been confirmed and that's against Kilgore in week 2. They will scrimmage Gilmer as well. No other news on their other 3 non-district games.

15-5A BASEBALL STANDINGS Hallsville 2-0 Whitehouse 2-0 Longview 2-0 Mount Pleasant 1-1 Marshall 1-1 Texas High 0-2 Pine Tree 0-2 Tyler 0-2 Game 2 Hallsville beat Mount Pleasant 6-2 Marshall beat Pine Tree 5-3 Whitehouse beat Tyler 12-2 Longview beat Texas High 3-2 (9 innings) 15-5A SOFTBALL STANDINGS Hallsville 4-0 Whitehouse 4-0 Mount Pleasant 3-1 Texas High 3-1 Pine Tree 1-3 Longview 1-3 Marshall 0-4 Tyler 0-4 Game 4 Hallsville beat Mount Pleasant 10-3 Texas High beat Longview 13-2 Pine Tree beat Marshall 10-0 Whitehouse beat Tyler 22-1 15-5A Boys Soccer Standings Longview 13-0 Mount Pleasant 11-2 Whitehouse 8-4-1 Hallsville 6-7 Pine Tree 5-6-2 Tyler 4-6-3 Marshall 1-12 Texas High 1-12 Game 14 (on 3/20) Mount Pleasant Vs. Longview Pine Tree Vs. Hallsville Marshall Vs. Whitehouse Texas High Vs. Tyler BI-DISTRICT MATCH-UPS Longview vs Huntsville Mount Pleasant vs Lufkin Nacogdoches vs Whitehouse Kingwood Park vs Hallsville or Pine Tree (HV and PT play on 03/20 to determine who gets in) ---------------------------------------------- 15-5A Girls Soccer Standings Longview 11-0-2 Whitehouse 9-3-1 Mount Pleasant 9-2-2 Tyler 7-5-1 Hallsville 5-8 Texas High 5-8 Pine Tree 3-10 Marshall 0-13 Game 14 (on 3/20) Longview Vs. Mount Pleasant Hallsville Vs. Pine Tree Whitehouse Vs. Marshall Tyler Vs. Texas High

MP had a pretty good QB on the JV team last year. He was very shifty. Made some good throws. One of the better sub varsity QBs I saw last year. Unfortunately he didn’t have much help. If they can get him some protection and someone to tote the rock… Tiger offense could be pretty good. Defense I’d have to plead ignorance on. The MP JV offense wasn’t very good at all. But maybe some holdovers from 2023 will be around.

15-5A Boys Soccer Standings Longview 13-0 Mount Pleasant 11-2 Whitehouse 8-4-1 Hallsville 6-7 Pine Tree 5-6-2 Tyler 4-6-3 Marshall 1-12 Texas High 1-12 Game 14 (on 3/20) Mount Pleasant Vs. Longview Pine Tree Vs. Hallsville Marshall Vs. Whitehouse Texas High Vs. Tyler As stated by @LoboFan07 BI-DISTRICT MATCH-UPS Longview vs Huntsville Mount Pleasant vs Lufkin Nacogdoches vs Whitehouse Kingwood Park vs Hallsville or Pine Tree (HV and PT play on 03/20 to determine who gets in) ---------------------------------------------- 15-5A Girls Soccer Standings Longview 11-0-2 Whitehouse 9-3-1 Mount Pleasant 9-2-2 Tyler 7-5-1 Hallsville 5-8 Texas High 5-8 Pine Tree 3-10 Marshall 0-13 Game 14 (on 3/20) Longview Vs. Mount Pleasant Hallsville Vs. Pine Tree Whitehouse Vs. Marshall Tyler Vs. Texas High ----------------------------------------------- 15-5A BASEBALL STANDINGS Hallsville 1-0 Whitehouse 1-0 Mount Pleasant 1-0 Longview 1-0 Marshall 0-1 Texas High 0-1 Pine Tree 0-1 Tyler 0-1 Game 1 Hallsville beat Texas High 10-1 Whitehouse beat Pine Tree 10-0 Mount Pleasant beat Marshall 6-0 Longview beat Tyler 15-0 Game 2 Mount Pleasant Vs. Hallsville (Fri) Marshall Vs. Pine Tree (Fri) Whitehouse Vs. Tyler (Fri) Longview Vs. Texas High (Thurs) 15-5A SOFTBALL STANDINGS Hallsville 4-0 Whitehouse 3-0 Mount Pleasant 3-1 Texas High 3-1 Pine Tree 1-3 Longview 1-3 Tyler 0-3 Marshall 0-4 Game 3 Hallsville beat Texas High 9-1 Whitehouse beat Pine Tree 14-4 Mount Pleasant beat Marshall 18-1 Longview beat Tyler 19-2 Game 4 Hallsville beat Mount Pleasant 10-3 Texas High beat Longview 13-2 Pine Tree beat Marshall 10-0 Whitehouse Vs. Tyler (Thursday)

15-5A Boys Soccer Standings Longview 13-0 Mount Pleasant 11-2 Whitehouse 8-4-1 Hallsville 6-7 Pine Tree 5-6-2 Tyler 4-6-3 Marshall 1-12 Texas High 1-12 Game 13 Longview beat Whitehouse 6-0 Mount Pleasant beat Tyler 3-1 Pine Tree beat Texas High 5-0 Hallsville beat Marshall 3-0 ---------------------------------------------- 15-5A Girls Soccer Standings Longview 11-0-2 Whitehouse 9-3-1 Mount Pleasant 9-2-2 Tyler 7-5-1 Hallsville 5-8 Texas High 5-8 Pine Tree 3-10 Marshall 0-13 Game 13 Longview beat Whitehouse 3-0 Mount Pleasant beat Tyler 1-0 Texas High beat Pine Tree 7-0 Hallsville beat Marshall 5-1 ----------------------------------------------- 15-5A SOFTBALL STANDINGS Hallsville 2-0 Whitehouse 2-0 Texas High 2-0 Mount Pleasant 2-0 Marshall 0-2 Longview 0-2 Pine Tree 0-2 Tyler 0-2 Game 2 Mount Pleasant beat Longview 19-0 Whitehouse beat Marshall 15-0 Texas High beat Tyler 18-0 Hallsville beat Pine Tree 4-3

As far as football goes….. we could see something like what we’ve seen develop in Louisiana. They still classify schools by enrollment 5A, 4A, 3A…. Etc etc…. But they also separate schools into different brackets by calling them select or non-select. Select schools have open enrollment and may or may not actively recruit. Non-select schools are those that don’t have open enrollment and cannot recruit. They have a select and non-select bracket for each class. So I guess that’s 10 state champions…. If a tiny state like Louisiana can do it…. So can Texas if the voucher system gives some schools an unfair advantage. Just a thought.

Poor kids will still not be going to private schools. Most middle class still won't afford private schools. The state will be subsidizing education for those that are already rich. Nothing really changes except the private schools get richer and the public schools get poorer. --------- Since public schools are held to academic standards through testing for accountability because they take tax dollars.... will private schools finally be held to similar accountability? The veil will finally be lifted that most (not all) of these private schools aren't performing any better than the public schools......

15-5A Boys Soccer Standings Longview 12-0 Mount Pleasant 10-2 Whitehouse 8-3-1 Hallsville 5-7 Tyler 4-5-3 Pine Tree 4-6-2 Marshall 1-11 Texas High 1-11 Game 11 Mount Pleasant beat Pine Tree 1-0 Hallsville beat Tyler 5-3 (OT) Longview beat Marshall 8-0 Whitehouse beat Texas High 5-0 Game 12 Longview beat Pine Tree 1-0 Whitehouse beat Hallsville 4-1 Tyler beat Marshall 6-0 Mount Pleasant beat Texas High 3-0 (final?) ---------------------------------------------- 15-5A Girls Soccer Standings Longview 10-0-2 Whitehouse 9-2-1 Mount Pleasant 8-2-2 Tyler 7-4-1 Hallsville 4-8 Texas High 4-8 Pine Tree 3-9 Marshall 0-12 Game 11 Mount Pleasant beat Pine Tree 2-1 Tyler beat Hallsville 1-0 Longview beat Marshall 6-0 Texas High beat Whitehouse 3-1 Game 12 Longview beat Pine Tree 5-0 Whitehouse beat Hallsville 1-0 Mount Pleasant beat Texas High 5-0 Tyler beat Marshall 4-0 ----------------------------------------------- 15-5A SOFTBALL STANDINGS Hallsville 1-0 Whitehouse 1-0 Texas High 1-0 Mount Pleasant 1-0 Marshall 0-1 Longview 0-1 Pine Tree 0-1 Tyler 0-1 Game 1 Whitehouse beat Longview 17-1 Hallsville beat Marshall 8-2 Texas High beat Pine Tree 15-9 Mount Pleasant beat Tyler 20-0

They got a tough tourney this coming weekend in Crosby. Hoping they can stay hot against some stiff competition

I think blaming demographics for the downfall of s school's football program is pedestrian at best and lazy at the worst. If the hispanic population isn't coming out for football ......that's on the coaching staff and the community for not nurturing the sport across all demographics. There are plenty of schools in East Texas that have incorporated the hispanic community into football with success..... Longview, Tyler, Marshall, Lufkin, Texas High, Mount Pleasant, Nacogdoches.... every one of those schools have hispanic populations well over 30%....some closer to 40 (or higher). 8 year old hispanic boys will be just as excited about playing little league football as a white kid or a black kid if the community, the leagues, and the coaching staffs are doing their jobs. I don't live in Jacksonville.....I don't know much about the state of things in the city nor the school district.... but when I see a school with such a high population with such a low participation.... I have to wonder...... is the coaching staff actively recruiting said demographic? Have the "powers that be" (boosters, businesses, fans, etc) strangled out said demographic? Something isn't adding up when you look at other schools with similar numbers but very different results.... And we've all seen the assumptions on statewide forums that hispanic kids simply "can't" play football. Too small. No interest. They point to the fact that El Paso and the Rio Grand Valley has been shut out of the state title talk for decades...... it's a bad assumption IMHO. But it's out there.... There are lots of poor kids in ETX. Lots of hispanic kids in ETX. And there's plenty of both playing at successful football programs IN EAST TEXAS. Sounds like Jacksonville needs to step up their game to appeal to the demographic that's growing the quickest in their city. JMHO.

But we’ve been awful. And coaching changes every year don’t help

We were very competitive as late as 2018 or so. Just have fallen off the map. With soccer powers like MP and Longview and even Sulphur Springs in the district…. Making the playoffs is not an easy road.

I’d agree if participation was low…. But we have good numbers. Just not enough talent playing HS. The best players in Marshall play club/select where it’s much more competitive.

Sadly it was likely the most exciting part to either of their seasons. Pitiful.

This. I know enrollment doesn’t determine competitiveness, but it’s certainly a factor. Those schools that are 4 and 5 times the size of ETBU worry me. I think we can remain competitive in most sports….. but football is the biggest question. We’ve only been marginally competitive in football in the ASC. Granted…. I think HSU and UMHB would be VERY competitive in the LSC and any other D2 conference just as they dominated the ASC. But all those 6-4 seasons finishing #4 in the ASC for ETBU could result in some 3-7 seasons finishing #8 in the LSC unless we can turn things around on the gridiron.

Don’t look now… but the Maverick baseball team is 8-1.

That’s true. I think new rules for the transfer portal are likely in the works… as soon as the SEC and the Bi6 come to the terms they like….. everyone in the NCAA will follow suit FBS all the way down to D3. And for every student that wants to be in Austin, San Antonio, or a metroplex area like Denton…. There are some that would prefer a smaller setting… finding that niche student will be paramount for ETBU lest they finish in dead last every season.

With the implosion of the American Southwest Conference last summer...leaving just "The Baptist Four" of ETBU, Howard Payne, Hardin-Simmons, and Mary Hardin Baylor.... rumors are really swirling. It seems the the SCAC (D3) has no intentions of offering a spot to either of the four. The SAA (D3) also seems uninterested in the four. The Coast to Coast conference is still a possibility...but it seems a longshot given the travel that would be involved. Tough decisions ahead. Rumor has it that UMHB is eyeballing a move to the FCS level and possibly a move to the Southland conference or the United Athletic Conference (with SFA and Sam Houston). Howard Payne could be headed to the Sooner Atheltic Conference (NAIA) to join Texas Wesleyan and Wayland Baptist...... Rumors are swirling that ETBU and Hardin-Simmons are looking to possibly move up to D2 and into the Lone Star Conference, joining former ASC Sul Ross State. If ETBU makes the move they would become one of the smallest D2 universities in the nation.... and one of the smallest in the Lone Star Conference. BUT...it would finally allow ETBU to offer athletic scholarships, which is prohibited in D3. FOOTBALL SCHOOLS IN THE LSC/Enrollment Angelo State 10,928 Central Washington 10,195 West Texas 9,241 Western Oregon 6,333 A&M Kingsville 6,092 UT Permian Basin 5,848 Midwestern State 5,784 Eastern New Mexico 4,991 Western New Mexico 3,378 Sul Ross State 1,987 Hardin Simmons 2,333 East Texas Baptist 1,833 -------- Not to mention some of the large Non-football schools..... Texas Women's 15,877 UT Tyler 9,317 A&M International 8,505 Dallas Baptist 4,348 St. Edwards (Austin) 3,470 Cameron University (OK) 3,417 St. Mary's (San Antonio) 3,253 Oklahoma Christian 2,602 Lubbock Christian 1,506 ---------------------- Rumor has it.... if ETBU and Hardin Simmons (and or Mary Hardin Baylor and even Howard Payne) join the LSC.... they would send the 2 affiliate football only schools Central Washington and Western Oregon packing. Forming a 10 (or 11) team football conference. And a 19/20 team conference for all other sports. ----------------------- ETBU would be the second smallest school in the conference, only larger than Lubbock Christian. They would be fairly close to Sul Ross, Hardin Simmons, and Oklahoma Christian...but exponentially smaller than everyone else. --------------------- Obviously the size of the school doesn't mean much as far as competitive edge goes when they all have the same restrictions on scholarships and there's no significant NIL money at the D2 level..... Which means it comes down to recruitment. So you have small town (Marshall- 25,000) ...small university(2000) recruiting against the likes of Denton, San Angelo, Tyler, Laredo, Odessa, Wichita Falls, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Oklahoma City..... with much bigger/busier campuses That's going to be rough...... Currently ETBU is recruiting against Plainview, Alpine, Belton, Sherman.... BIG difference. Not saying ETBU can't compete at the D2 level. Obviously scholarships can bring in some talent..... but rectuiting guys that want a smaller campus... a smaller town... and namely a Christian campus Vs a state school campus are all things they have to contend with. ------------------- And none of this is set in stone I've heard rumors ETBU has also looked in to another D2 conference centered in Arkansas and Oklahoma in the Great American Conference with the likes of Hardin University, Arkansas Tech, Ouachita Baptist, Oklahoma Baptist...... Geographically the GAC makes more sense than the LSC.... and the enrollments in the GAC are all significantly lower than the LSC with numbers closer to ETBU's. Stay tuned. Until something changes.... the ASC is planning a round-robin conference slate this fall between ETBU, UMHB, HSU, and HPU.... with 4 non conference games. The ASC has until 2026 to get back up to 6 teams before losing their automatic qualifying spot into NCAA playoffs in all sports. I

Not expecting 7A in 2026.....but 2028 is very possible. Not going to be shocked to see the Div I and Div II split come to winter and spring sports either.