SmoakyBandito

Carthage has improved every game, and are playing at a high level despite being one of the youngest teams I can remember at Carthage. Maybe similar to 2011, but with a lot more depth and better top end talent. Going to be a hell of a game next week. PG is legit. Have watched them a couple times this year including when they dismantled Gilmer. They have the players to hang with Carthage. If somebody is going to beat Carthage anytime soon, it better be this year. They are going to be filthy the next few seasons.

Wow what a disaster on that last drive. My goodness.

My goodness. 28-0 real quick.

Agree. Not this year.

I am happy to be wrong. I can only go by the last 2 years these 2 have played. I don’t follow Marshall for sure. I guess it’s just these 2 teams bring out the worst on each other.

The Carthage player never returned.

Everybody here has said it was both. To think Marshall played no part in it is dumb.

It was both sides. Go back and watch when Carthage FB was hit late and his helmet came off out of bounds. See how the Marshall sideline was acting. It was both teams. Both need to be better.

Of course they were. That poster is just trying to find something to grab on to. Carthage plays 16 games a season. They hardly ever act like that. I think it’s pretty normal for Marshall.

Guess it depends on what side you were sitting on. Same could be said for Marshall. Funny how you see it as “toughness” and “never give up attitude”. Others could see it as Marshall was down 35-0 and started mouthing because that’s all they could do. Not saying that is what happened, just a different perspective. I think we should chalk it up to both teams running their mouths and both need to do better.

When this series started there was not many people that thought Carthage would be 4-0 outscoring Marshall 153-51. Hopefully can get the series back going at some point, but I agree with another post, it’s time for a break for now.

Get this game over with. Both teams talking too much. This one is over.

Stream?

Heck of a game. Good luck Kilgore! Carthage had some growing pains. Young team. Will be fun to watch them this year. Great win against a good team.

Old school Carthage / Kilgore game. Both teams pounding the rock. Carthage in the I Formation. 30-27 Carthage.

Both teams are going to be good. Glad to see Kilgore playing well. They are big and fast.

Hasn’t happened many times over the last 7 years, but Kilgore is winning up front right now. They look good. This one is going to come down to late in the 4th quarter. Gimme Carthage in these close games. But it’s up for grabs right now.

Kilgore looks good. They are going to be tough to deal with. They definitely pass the eye test. Glad to see a close game at the half. That is how it should be between these 2 programs.

Zero. Of the few transfers Carthage gets 99% have never played a Varsity or JV snap at any other school. Funny how Carthage’s 9th grade team never loses a game. I guess parents are moving to Carthage for all those high paying jobs when their kids are in 8th grade.

As they should. Why wouldn’t people from Longview want their kids playing for anybody else besides King. Benchwarmer or not? Those benchwarmers are a big part of programs. Scout team guys have a big part in a programs success. But I don’t know about being a “star” at another or gram. Unless we are taking about 2a or 3a DII level. If a kid can’t even start at Longview, doubt he can find many places to go where he wound be considered a “star”. Maybe their are different opinion on what star is. As far as parents wanting their kids to play for certain coach’s I would hope that has a lot more to do with how the coach teaches the kids and what life lessons are taught, rather than success in wins and losses. A lot of coaches in ETX that are great men and excellent teachers might not have the most wins every year, but you would still want your kids learning from them. Don’t get me wrong winning and having those other attributes I mentioned would be the goal, but there is only a handful of guys who do can do both at a high level, and we all consider those guys elite. Obviously all the area kids cannot play at the same 3-4 schools with those kind of coaches. So you have to pick which one you would choose. I hope parents would choose the coach that’s going to make their sons a better young man over the coach that is going to put winning above everything else, treats people badly and is not a good role model in the process of getting those wins.

Yea Longview has always had studs at the RB position. Multiple guys in the league. But you and ANTI pointed out Longview consistently has some of the best trench play in the state. Putting guys in the league. The GOAT played for King at Longview. King was at the draft with him if I’m not mistaken. Given King’s background, I think it’s safe to say a lot of the RB success Longview has had was because King and his staff put so much emphasis on line play and they are so good at coaching it. That’s obvious. But Longview has had some dudes come thru there at the RB position. Like ANTI said about the line, same can be said about the RB position. Forget about putting guys D1, they are putting guys in the league. But I guess you can say that about a lot of positions at Longview. Amazing how many guys they have put in the league. As for Carthage they have also always had good line play even during the Pre-Surratt era. Sleepy always had a good OL. And they almost always had a stud RB. Some big names have come thru Carthage as far as HS studs. Some legendary ETX guys that some of the older posters will recognize. So yes Carthage has amazing line play during Surratts tenure. Besides QB play I think the OL and DL play has been the 2nd most important factor in Surratt’s run at Carthage. But the Carthage RB’s pre-date Surratt by a lot of years.

For sure. TT is a much different situation than Kaidon. TT was always a Longview kid even though his Dad graduated from Carthage. I doubt he has ever lived in Carthage. I was really just poking a little fun with you mentioning Tatum. But like I said Graves was always going to be a Bulldog. Graves will be an excellent addition to the incoming Freshman class next year at Carthage. Graves will team up with another son of a former Carthage RB, KJ Edwards who will only be a sophomore next year. Those 2 will be fun to watch once they get on Varsity together. Both Longview and Carthage always seem to have a stud RB and another one coming behind that one!

Tatum definitely never did.

Kaidon’s father is from Carthage and played RB at Carthage in the early 2000’s. All of his family is in Carthage. This shouldn’t be a surprise to anybody. He was always gonna be a Bulldog. Lucky they didn’t want Tatum to be a Bulldog. But that’s a different situation since his dad didn’t play FB and wasn’t close to the program.

What? Both have 4 correct? Carthage has lost only 2 games. Aledo has 1 more appearance. Am I missing something? Like I said, a lot of ETX fans tired of Carthage.