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2023 District 8-5A DIV II Football Thread
Mavchamp posted a topic in High School SportsDISTRICT 8-5A DIVISION II Texas High Marshall Nacogdoches Pine Tree Mount Pleasant Hallsville Whitehouse I'll get the 2023 schedules.....2022 recaps....and previews posted in the next days. Spring ball is just around the corner!
State of ETX 5A
Mavchamp posted a topic in High School SportsThis thread is about everyone in East Texas 5A...Division I and II that's not called Longview. The Lobos have been on a playoff roll for about two decades now....so they are clearly in fantastic shape then, now, and for the foreseeable future. But what about everyone else? Obviously 2022 was grossly disappointing for EVERYONE in ETX 5A. They either didn't make the playoffs (Tyler, Lufkin) or they lost in the first round (Texas High, Marshall, Hallsville, Who do you think is trending up? + Who do you think is trending down? - Who is basically stagnant? X and why? Tyler (-): The last two seasons for the Lions have been a nightmare and it looks like (some) people have gotten their way with the HFC leaving. Hard to imagine a new coach will right the ship quickly for THS. That's a tall order when you're contending Vs. Longview, Lancaster, McNorth, Lufkin, etc...... Lufkin (+): This wasn't a ringing endorsement + for me. Talent is lesser at LP than it was in the Outlaw years....but there's clearly enough talent for them to be making the playoffs. And the sub-varsities should have the varsity in good shape the next few years. BUTTTT.... grumbles are about the leadership of this team. Will that hinder the talent they have? Tough call....but the last couple of seasons are saying: YES. Texas High (+): I honestly think 2022 was a hiccup by THS. No reason to think they won't bounce back in 2023. Lots of talent returning. Clearly the most tenured staff in the district.... and even in a down year... they still managed an (8-2) regular season and a district title. Marshall (+): Coach Alvarez was one yard short from getting his first Maverick squad into the second round against an (8-2) team. His hybrid wing-T had some early growing pains in September....but really took off about midseason and was averaging over 35 PPG. A JV squad that went (5-1) in district play and a huge freshman class seems to have things headed in the right direction. Whitehouse (+): They have returning players. Hallsville (-): What Hallsville's staff did this season was nothing short of spectacular. They had the offensive district MVP in Mosley. He's the type of generational player a school rarely enjoys. He was their beast on offense. Unfortunately he won't be around in 2023. That's very difficult/almost impossible to replace. Not to mention....for the last two seasons Hallsville's defense has surrendered more than 40 PPG. Hard to believe the loss of Mosley and their defensive struggles is going to back 2023 as successful. Pine Tree (X): Outside of 2020.....Pine Tree has been one of the most consistent programs in the district.....unfortunately for them....it's been consistently disappointing. However.... with Mosley gone.... PT could be looking to steak that #4 slot back. But they will have to do it without their star RB. They are still unsettled at QB....and the one they had was very INT prone. Their defense had a lot of issues too (then again...so did everyone else in 8-5A). Mount Pleasant (X): MP is a huge question mark to me. When it was announced that they were installing the wide open NASCAR- type offense...I thought it was head scratcher. Didn't seem to be an offense conducive to the type of athletes MP generally has. The increase in numbers they had apparently evaporated as the season went off the rails for them too. So who knows.... they could be improved...but we may see more of what we've seen from MP: lack of depth.... and now they seem to have an offensive identity problem. Nacogdoches (-): Nac had to be the biggest shock/disappointment of the district. There are grumbles in DragonLand about needed changes. No shortage of athletes. But an offense that was trying to do a little bit of EVERYTHING...but wasn't doing ANYTHING well. They had no identity. Rotating 2-3 QB's, switching offensive systems from week to week, bizzare play calling. Turnovers and the WORST defense in the district that gave up almost 45 PPG. Dragons have a lot to clean up....and with THS, Marshall, and WH all trending up....it's hard to imagine Nac has much room to move up....but with PT, MP and Hallsville...they might can challenge.
Professional Football in bEast Texas!!!
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Hallsville (3-1) Vs. Marshall (2-2)
Mavchamp posted a topic in High School SportsIt's homecoming for the Mavericks. Marshall is coming off a 47-21 win over Lindale. Hallsville is coming off a 55-35 loss to Pine Tree. The Mavs had another stellar performance from QB JJ Green. He had 222 yards passing against the Eagles. Marshall had another 224 on the ground. They rolled up 484 total yards. The Marshall defense gave up 265 yards, 176 through the air. Hallsville rolled up 471 yards against Pine Tree in their loss. Only 37 yards were through the air. However, the Bobcats gave up 558 yards to Pine Tree.... 400 of them on the ground. This will mark the 19th game between the Mavs and Bobcats in a series that started in 2000 as a 5A/4A match-up that became an annual district match in 2002. Marshall holds a (13-5) edge in the series.
Can a small school coach make the jump to a big school?
Mr. P posted a topic in High School SportsI was watching the DeSoto/Marshall thread and it seemed like a different thread of conversation was emerging... so I went back and time and created a new thread. This post will appear to you all on Tuesday morning. But as you can see by the date above ^^^ I am actually posting this from Sunday afternoon.
Official 2016-2017 District 16-5A Sports Thread
Mavchamp posted a topic in High School SportsDid anyone start practice today or did everyone have spring ball? Numbers? Scrimmages? Marshall Vs. Carthage Aug 19 Pine Tree Vs. Longview Aug 19
Jacksonville at Mt. Pleasant...
goldandblackattack posted a topic in High School SportsMt. Pleasant currently sits at 0-3 going into this game against Jacksonville. It is Homecoming for the Tigers and they host their second opponent at home this week. Will the Tigers get their first win of the season or will Jacksonville be too much for the tigers for the third year in a row? MP comes off a loss against Sherman and Jacksonville defeated Hallsville on Friday night. Who you got?
Marshall (4-0) Vs. Pine Tree (1-3)
Mavchamp posted a topic in High School SportsThis will be Marshall's first road game since the season opener Vs. Royse City. The Mavs are (4-0) for the first time since 2001, and if they earn the win, could be (5-0) for the first time since 1996. The 1996 season was the last (10-0) season Marshall posted. Marshall will be at New Pirate Stadium for the third time since its opening in 2013. They have never lost there, beating Pine Tree in 2013 and last season beating Nacogdoches in the Bi-district round of the playoffs. The Maverick offense continued it roll against Hallsville, scoring 56 points. Royse City 62-13 Crandall 55-7 Arkansas High 56-28 Hallsville 56-21 RB/QB Cameron Haller is leading the attack with 759 yards and 17 touchdowns. RB Chavis Mills is behind him with with 491 yards and 8 touchdowns. QB Justin Hart is 38-52 for 547 yards with 3 touchdowns and 1 interception. WR J. Dabbs has 24 catches for 421 yards receiving and 4 touchdowns. WR Trel Patton has 12 catches for 276 yards and 3 touchdowns. Haller also has 150 yards passing. Unknown attempts, TDs, with 0 interceptions. Offense: The Mavs have amassed 1,901 yards of total offense this season. 1,178 yards have been on the ground (62%) 723 have been through the air (38%) They have scored 229 points, an average of 57.25 per game Defense: The Mavs have given up 1,365 total yards Opponents have passed for 568 yards Opponents have rushed for 797 yards Marshall has given up a total of 69 points, an average of 17.25 per game The Mavs lead the Pine Tree series (23-9) overall. They are (11-2) since reuniting as district rivals in 2002.
4A Div I Bi-District: Marshall Vs. Wylie
Mavchamp posted a topic in High School SportsI've got some interesting stuff about the game/matchup. I'll post it all when I have time. Just thought I'd go ahead and get the thread started.
13-4A Vs. 14-4A Playoff watch
Mavchamp posted a topic in High School SportsHere is how things are stacking up for the first round of the playoffs for 14-4A. The district will face 13-4A in the Bi-district round. Here are their standings. Their enrollments (2012 numbers) are listed Denison 3-1, 4-3 (1291) Wylie 3-1, 4-3 (1751) Wylie East 3-1, 4-3 (1612) Lucas-Lovejoy 2-2, 4-3 (1104) McKinney North 2-2, 3-4 (1771) Sherman 2-2, 3-4 (1710) Royce City 1-3, 1-6 (1239) Greenville 0-4, 0-7 (1204) Games this Friday: Wylie Vs. Denison Greenville Vs. McKinney North Lucas Lovejoy Vs. Sherman Wylie East Vs. Royce City If the Playoffs started today..... they would look like this 4A- Division I Texas High Vs. Wylie East Marshall Vs. Wylie 4A Div II Hallsville Vs. Denison Sulphur Springs Vs. Lucas Lovejoy
Marshall Vs. Hallsville
Mavchamp posted a topic in High School SportsMarshall(1-4) Lost to #5 Kilgore 42-7 Lost to Longview 26-14 Lost to #5 Bossier Parkway 62-19 Lost to #5 Whitehouse 59-3 Beat Jacksonville 35-28 Hallsville (3-2) Lost to #5 Whitehouse 58-28 Beat Van 38-26 Beat Henderson 35-22 Beat Lindale 56-28 Lost to Nacogdoches 24-21 Hallsville beat Marshall last season 42-20. Marshall leads the overall series (10-3). This is the 14-4A opener for both teams.
I know Hallsville and MP won. Who else?