franksnbeans Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Wow. Pinkfan has an axe to grind. If you are going to bash, at least get the facts right first. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloryBound Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Wow. Pinkfan has an axe to grind. If you are going to bash, at least get the facts right first. lol Franks, sounds like his kid didn't make the varsity this year to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfan Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 if not being happy with 4-4 or 5-5 makes me a bad person will i will have to just be that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR88 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I'm loving how everyone assumes WH is going to be No. 2... With that AMAZING defense they have and all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachc45 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 They have clinched a playoff spot and of the 3 that have clinched they are 2nd biggest. Of the 3 fighting for the 4th spot, only Hallsville is bigger. Thus by process of elimination they most likely will be #2 seed in Div I. No one said they are clinching 2nd in district, just #2 in Div I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagrizzlybear Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I'm loving how everyone assumes WH is going to be No. 2... With that AMAZING defense they have and all... Would not surprise me at all to see Whitehouse lose their last 2...especially that last one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I'm loving how everyone assumes WH is going to be No. 2... With that AMAZING defense they have and all... their D may not be that good, but unless Kilgore can stop that offense i dont see you beating them. because you are going to have to out score them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitehousekid Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 if not being happy with 4-4 or 5-5 makes me a bad person will i will have to just be that i think whitehouse could and should be better and i do think lot of the poor play has to do so what with coahing decisons..... you can say the kids are young but i think we have talent and after 5 games they should be varsity players regardless of what grade they are in.... I believe we need better coaches if we are going to compete with JT, Sulphur Springs and other East Texas programs that are real playoff powers....... and i did not know that Coach Randy was 48 - 42 but since it has been pointed out that is not very impressive....But all the same i hope Whitehouse does something to get better coaches..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfan Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I'm loving how everyone assumes WH is going to be No. 2... With that AMAZING defense they have and all... Whitehouse could definitely lose the next two games or spilt them or with a some luck win them ..... Marshall came alive against JT which is scary .... and Kilgore runs the ball with big backs and speed which is scary for whitehouse defense...... Whitehouse is lucky to be in the plays and not have these two cames weigh on the outcome...I just hope they dont go in with a losing record..... brought the axe out again I hate losing .... chop chop chop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachc45 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 i think whitehouse could and should be better and i do think lot of the poor play has to do so what with coahing decisons..... you can say the kids are young but i think we have talent and after 5 games they should be varsity players regardless of what grade they are in.... I believe we need better coaches if we are going to compete with JT, Sulphur Springs and other East Texas programs that are real playoff powers....... and i did not know that Coach Randy was 48 - 42 but since it has been pointed out that is not very impressive....But all the same i hope Whitehouse does something to get better coaches..... I hope your coaches there at Whitehouse don't figure out who you are...lol. Might be looking hard at every mistake you make and give you some extra running!!!! Don't throw your own coaches under the bus son! WH has an excellent defensive staff. I have seen improvements throughout the year. Having young players is a handicap, but I think overall they have done a pretty good job developing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfan Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 i think whitehouse could and should be better and i do think lot of the poor play has to do so what with coahing decisons..... you can say the kids are young but i think we have talent and after 5 games they should be varsity players regardless of what grade they are in.... I believe we need better coaches if we are going to compete with JT, Sulphur Springs and other East Texas programs that are real playoff powers....... and i did not know that Coach Randy was 48 - 42 but since it has been pointed out that is not very impressive....But all the same i hope Whitehouse does something to get better coaches..... Hey kid do you have an axe ..... because it sounds like you want too win too.... good luck to your school ..... i still believe they need new coaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachc45 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Hey kid do you have an axe ..... because it sounds like you want too win too.... good luck to your school ..... i still believe they need new coaches Just one question....will the new coaches be keeping the same players? Cuz in order to win big you have to have more than one or 2 big time athletes. Unfortunately, Whitehouse usually only has a handful of Athletes. And if you took off your Maroon tinted glasses you'd see that. Watch film of the teams in this district, even PT and Nac have more "Athletes" than WH. I think that Coach Mac and the boys are doing pretty dang good with what they got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfan Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I hope your coaches there at Whitehouse don't figure out who you are...lol. Might be looking hard at every mistake you make and give you some extra running!!!! Don't throw your own coaches under the bus son! WH has an excellent defensive staff. I have seen improvements throughout the year. Having young players is a handicap, but I think overall they have done a pretty good job developing them. this is american everyone has a right speak their mind ..... but hide kid they will attack you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfan Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I hope your coaches there at Whitehouse don't figure out who you are...lol. Might be looking hard at every mistake you make and give you some extra running!!!! Don't throw your own coaches under the bus son! WH has an excellent defensive staff. I have seen improvements throughout the year. Having young players is a handicap, but I think overall they have done a pretty good job developing them. dont say anything else kid you might get beatten as well WOW ..... this is american right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franksnbeans Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Whitehouse could definitely lose the next two games or spilt them or with a some luck win them ..... Marshall came alive against JT which is scary .... and Kilgore runs the ball with big backs and speed which is scary for whitehouse defense...... Whitehouse is lucky to be in the plays and not have these two cames weigh on the outcome...I just hope they dont go in with a losing record..... brought the axe out again I hate losing .... chop chop chop Lucky? Freaking ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfan Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Lucky? Freaking ridiculous. they were lucky to get out of jacksonville with a victory........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franksnbeans Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 i think whitehouse could and should be better and i do think lot of the poor play has to do so what with coahing decisons..... you can say the kids are young but i think we have talent and after 5 games they should be varsity players regardless of what grade they are in.... I believe we need better coaches if we are going to compete with JT, Sulphur Springs and other East Texas programs that are real playoff powers....... and i did not know that Coach Randy was 48 - 42 but since it has been pointed out that is not very impressive....But all the same i hope Whitehouse does something to get better coaches..... You guys have absolutely no perspective. Whitehouse was 69-165-7 in the 24 years prior to McFarlin coming to Whitehouse. Coach McFalin in 48-39 in his time at Whitehouse, with 5 (going on 6) straight trips to the playoffs. Whether or not you believe that is a good record, it is better than previous regimes. I think it is great that people expect more from the Wildcats, that means expectations have been raised across the board. To me that is a good thing. I also believe that a lot of the folks bashing Whitehouse are just #### that their team has lost to the Wildcats the last few years. They don't like it one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franksnbeans Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 they were lucky to get out of jacksonville with a victory........ They won that game. Both teams played under same conditions. They beat the Indians in Jacksonville straight up. They held the Indians scoreless through the better part of 3 quarters. The Wildcats made the plays when they had to. Luck huh? Whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfan Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 They won that game. Both teams played under same conditions. They beat the Indians in Jacksonville straight up. They held the Indians scoreless through the better part of 3 quarters. The Wildcats made the plays when they had to. Luck huh? Whatever. lol frank frank frank...... just because we dont agree with you does not mean we are bashing just that we are not in agreement with you..... take a breath.... frank no one hates whitehouse..... i just believe they could be better ...... i also believe that 5-5 and 4-6 is not good enough .... if that is good enough for you okay.... if thats good enough for whitehouse ok..... but i never really really known a team to be happy with that unless they were really bad maybe you know a time that is i am okay with that at well.... it is okay that we disagree because i like a winner..... it is a blog frank dont let the skin get back on your lil wieners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franksnbeans Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 lol frank frank frank...... just because we dont agree with you does not mean we are bashing just that we are not in agreement with you..... take a breath.... frank no one hates whitehouse..... i just believe they could be better ...... i also believe that 5-5 and 4-6 is not good enough .... if that is good enough for you okay.... if thats good enough for whitehouse ok..... but i never really really known a team to be happy with that unless they were really bad maybe you know a time that is i am okay with that at well.... it is okay that we disagree because i like a winner..... it is a blog frank dont let the skin get back on your lil wieners No. I would just say you're misinformed. Take a history lesson. Learn the game and know what you are talking about before you bash a coaching staff. And, then maybe we will let you back at the grown-up table. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfan Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 No. I would just say you're misinformed. Take a history lesson. Learn the game and know what you are talking about before you bash a coaching staff. And, then maybe we will let you back at the grown-up table. :D no thanks i like winners around me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franksnbeans Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 whitehouse coaching staff needs and overhaul starting at the top ... If you call a 3 or 4th place finish a good season than dont ever change and whitehouse will always be successful wrong.... the present staff has a losing recording overall and has never won a district championship wrong and wrong..... 2011 - currently 2nd 2010 - 2nd 2009 - 4th 2008 - 3rd 2007 - 1st (tied Kilgore) 2006 - 1st (district champs) 48-39 overall record for the current head coach. Misinformed, like I said. no thanks i like winners around me And, I prefer people who know what they are talking about around me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32dive Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I love tiebreaker talk...It can be VERY COMPLICATED...so here goes... If your scenario goes as is, you'd have a 4 way tie for 4th place between Marshall, Hallsville, Nacogdoches, and Jacksonville. While I don't know the tiebreaker procedures in 14-4A...most district's break ties by using... 1) head to head with the tied teams in the games that they played each other...if there is still a tie... 2) point differential in games that all 4 teams played against each other with a 14 point cap. 3) coin flip So, based on the 3 above tiebreakers...and your scenario...this is what you have... Hallsville...beat Marshall by 3, beat Jacksonville by 2, lost to Nac by ???...2-1 Nac...lost to Marshall by 19 (only 14 for tiebreaker purposes), beat Hallsville by ???, beat Jacksonville by ???...2-1 Marshall...beat Nac, lost to Hallsville, lost to Jacksonville...1-2 Jacksonville...beat Marshall, lost to Hallsville, lost to Nac???...1-2 With head to head...Marshall and Jacksonville are eliminated. Now for the complicated part....Hallsville is currently +5...Nac is currently -14. Nac will not only have to win both games, but will have to win by enough points in both games to over take Hallsville in points. No way to know how much Nac would have to beat Hallsville by until they beat Jacksonville. I could list all the points possiblities, but there would be too many to list. However I will give you one... Lets say Nac beats Jax by 7 this week...that puts Nac at -7. In order for them to make the playoffs, Nac would have to beat Hallsville by 7 to make the playoffs. That would put Nac at 0 and Hallsville at -2. Here's one to chew on...Lets say Nac beats Jax by 7 this week...that puts Nac at -7. Nac then beats Hallsville by 6...Nac is at -1...Hallsville is at -1...COIN FLIP!!! Like I said...VERY COMPLICATED!!! I was also thinking the head to head records between the teams involved in the tie-breaker would be used for elimination. Then I had figured, after the elimination of MAR and JAX, further elimination would turn back to head to head instead of a coin flip awarding NAC the 4th spot via a win over HV. Like you say though, the tie-breaker procedures of 14-4A are unknown. It may proceed to a coin-flip once the remaining two teams are determined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloryBound Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 i think whitehouse could and should be better and i do think lot of the poor play has to do so what with coahing decisons..... you can say the kids are young but i think we have talent and after 5 games they should be varsity players regardless of what grade they are in.... I believe we need better coaches if we are going to compete with JT, Sulphur Springs and other East Texas programs that are real playoff powers....... and i did not know that Coach Randy was 48 - 42 but since it has been pointed out that is not very impressive....But all the same i hope Whitehouse does something to get better coaches..... So, having to bring a horrible program into a winning situation the first couple of years doesn't count. He may be 48-42 at 'house but a lot of those losses were at the beginning. He's the right head coach for sure. As far as the remainder, I think there could be a possible need for an upgrade here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 wyile is (3-4)(1-4) JT wont see them in the playoffs. we could see rockwall Heath. (8-0)(5-0). smith is not going to make the playoffs. we could see hachie in the second round. just to name some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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