astro321 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I watched three great games this weekend at the Class A region 3 tournament at TJC, and in all 3 games their was one official in each game that thought we all payed our money to see him call a game.Come on guys this is not about you, it is about all the young man that play their hearts out for a chance to get to Austin. In the 3 games I watched, Tenaha-Cayuga, Grapeland-Clarksville and Tenaha-Clarksville there were calls in each of these games that could have changed the outcome. The one official in the Tenaha-Clarksville game probably made 70% of the foul calls, come on man this is the Regional finals, let them play. The UIL needs to look at who they send to the regional tournaments. We get better officials during the regular season then we got this weekend and you all know being Class A you don't get the cream of the crop during regular season games. I am not saying that the officials beat us tonite but when a team shoots 44 free throws and we shoot only 14 something ain't right. Congratulations to Clarksville on the win and good luck in Austin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWalum07 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I was there on firday as well and I officiate a little basketball and I must say the Tenaha-Cayuga crew was awful just from a mechanical standpoint. I hear everyone say let them play all the time but when you do that they want you to call something. There is a fine line and let's face it no one likes the officials but they are grown men and women that know the rules. Sometimes people need to quit deflecting the blame on the refs and look at what they could do better as a team,coach, and parent. I watched three great games this weekend at the Class A region 3 tournament at TJC, and in all 3 games their was one official in each game that thought we all payed our money to see him call a game.Come on guys this is not about you, it is about all the young man that play their hearts out for a chance to get to Austin. In the 3 games I watched, Tenaha-Cayuga, Grapeland-Clarksville and Tenaha-Clarksville there were calls in each of these games that could have changed the outcome. The one official in the Tenaha-Clarksville game probably made 70% of the foul calls, come on man this is the Regional finals, let them play. The UIL needs to look at who they send to the regional tournaments. We get better officials during the regular season then we got this weekend and you all know being Class A you don't get the cream of the crop during regular season games. I am not saying that the officials beat us tonite but when a team shoots 44 free throws and we shoot only 14 something ain't right. Congratulations to Clarksville on the win and good luck in Austin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68Hornet Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I was there on firday as well and I officiate a little basketball and I must say the Tenaha-Cayuga crew was awful just from a mechanical standpoint. I hear everyone say let them play all the time but when you do that they want you to call something. There is a fine line and let's face it no one likes the officials but they are grown men and women that know the rules. Sometimes people need to quit deflecting the blame on the refs and look at what they could do better as a team,coach, and parent. Â I didn't like officiating either, but if you can do better join a chapter. Basketball has to be the hardest game in the world to officiate. I had no team in Tyler, and as bad as it was they showed no favortism. Clarksville won and that's it. In the past I've seen it go the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astro321 Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 I was there on firday as well and I officiate a little basketball and I must say the Tenaha-Cayuga crew was awful just from a mechanical standpoint. I hear everyone say let them play all the time but when you do that they want you to call something. There is a fine line and let's face it no one likes the officials but they are grown men and women that know the rules. Sometimes people need to quit deflecting the blame on the refs and look at what they could do better as a team,coach, and parent. Â If you will read my post I didn't say the officials beat us. I am saying you should get the best officials to call a Regional tournament. I bet you most of the officials that called the Region 3 tournament where either the President, Sec. or a board member of the chapter. If these games where played at the state tournament, I bet you the UIL would have not liked it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonDellaRosa Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 At the TAPPS 2A girls state tournament, the semifinal between TCS and Shiner had 59 fouls called. Eight total kids fouled out and three more had four fouls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I watched three great games this weekend at the Class A region 3 tournament at TJC, and in all 3 games their was one official in each game that thought we all payed our money to see him call a game.Come on guys this is not about you, it is about all the young man that play their hearts out for a chance to get to Austin. In the 3 games I watched, Tenaha-Cayuga, Grapeland-Clarksville and Tenaha-Clarksville there were calls in each of these games that could have changed the outcome. The one official in the Tenaha-Clarksville game probably made 70% of the foul calls, come on man this is the Regional finals, let them play. The UIL needs to look at who they send to the regional tournaments. We get better officials during the regular season then we got this weekend and you all know being Class A you don't get the cream of the crop during regular season games. I am not saying that the officials beat us tonite but when a team shoots 44 free throws and we shoot only 14 something ain't right. Congratulations to Clarksville on the win and good luck in Austin  I thought a lot of the calls were tick tack calls, but unless the official himself is a flat out crooked official, you got to say that its happening to both teams. In the Tenaha/Clarksville game there were a lot of fouls called, particularly on Tenaha. Maybe Tenaha was just more obvious at fouling. Its easy to to be bias for a team that you are pulling for, so it will seem that their getting robbed or getting most of the bad calls, not saying there are no bad calls, but its easy for us as fans to see only what we want to see. I'm guessing every time Tenaha got called for a foul, the C'ville fans were saying good call as well as the Tenaha fans when C'ville got called for a foul, which didn't happen often. Either way it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibleedmaroon Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 At the TAPPS 2A girls state tournament, the semifinal between TCS and Shiner had 59 fouls called. Eight total kids fouled out and three more had four fouls. Â LOL wow. Sounds like you guys couldn't even breathe without hearing a whistle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaleEagle25 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 The refs at the Lindale vs Wilmer-Hutchins game were terrible. The outcome would have been alot better if they would have made the right calls!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaleEagle25 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 You lost...get over it. What you gonna do about it?? Not a thing at all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibleedmaroon Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Hope you flexed real big after you hit enter. Seriously though, your team lost...time to move on to baseball. Â +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 What you gonna do about it?? Not a thing at all!! Â XD. Look out JTown may decide to match wits with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regaleagle Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I wasn't able to attend any of the games, but I will say this regarding playoff basketball in particular. Many times, one team DOES foul much more than the other team, depending on the score or its style of play, or the opposition's style of play. Sometimes teams are forced to foul late in the game, and the total foul count will naturally add up against them, also. These are just reasons for what may seem to be an inordinate amount of fouls called on a team in a playoff atmosphere. As I stated, I did not attend any of the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWalum07 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 They were the better ones on the weekend that I saw out oif that chapter. In regaurds to what the other poster said about gettting better officials for a regional they are assigned by the UIL. They do that to ensure fair play for all schools involved. They bring in crews from distant chapters that havent seen any of the teams play all year. Lion you were there why didnt we hang out.. The LanevilleVs roxton crew was a bad as I saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Im always up for the entertainment. Great effort by your Tigers the other night, was pulling for them. Â Thanks man the men never quit fighting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordertown Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 When I hear the cry "Let them play" - I never hear anyone say how they want them to play. What I have learned is perspective has a huge influence how we see the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlSpangler Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 All in all officiating has gone down hill this year. Edgewood lost to Kountze in the regional tournament with a free difference of edgewood 4-12 with Kountze going 35-52. Kountze had 31 unearned runs as I see. Anyway officiating has been in some cases embarrassing to watch. And for all of you officials out there I have officiated for several years at the varsity level as well as coached so i've seen the game through more points of view than that of your grumpy homer fans out there. I have seen more three second violations this year than I have seen in my entire life. All I have ever asked officials to do is be consistent. Even if your consistently bad be bad for both teams. I keep hearing about the games that are called one sided and it seems to be happening more often in big games. For me high school sports is all about the kids going out and competing and showing what talents they have. When officials feel that they have something to prove by showing off the ability to contort their fingers in a wierd way when they call a foul or show how good their mechanics are on signalling a player control foul, it just gets old. Let the kids play means let their abilities show and let them play the game the way it was designed to be played. Kids will push the rules as far as they can but when you set a boundary you need to be consistent with it on both ends of the floor. And one more thing that burns me up is the big men getting called for everyting they do and when a little guy gets on the floor we all feel sorry for him and we let him get away with murder. If the little man wants to play with the big boys then hold him accountable to. As just because a big guy touches him doesnt mean its a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackem Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 be consistent. Â Something thats hard for some officials. Often time the fouls all go one way till one team reaches double bonus and the other team is way low. Then refs play catch up so the fouls will even out at the end of each half. But the other team has been shooting from the stripe for awhile. Â Wish the clock wouldn't stop at 10 fouls. Clock personal have been much better this year identifing the person who fouled and the number of fouls they had. Right up till the game before regionals when the clock personal got lazy or they had to use a sub. that didn't know how to put them on the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloryBound Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I watched three great games this weekend at the Class A region 3 tournament at TJC, and in all 3 games their was one official in each game that thought we all payed our money to see him call a game.Come on guys this is not about you, it is about all the young man that play their hearts out for a chance to get to Austin. In the 3 games I watched, Tenaha-Cayuga, Grapeland-Clarksville and Tenaha-Clarksville there were calls in each of these games that could have changed the outcome. The one official in the Tenaha-Clarksville game probably made 70% of the foul calls, come on man this is the Regional finals, let them play. The UIL needs to look at who they send to the regional tournaments. We get better officials during the regular season then we got this weekend and you all know being Class A you don't get the cream of the crop during regular season games. I am not saying that the officials beat us tonite but when a team shoots 44 free throws and we shoot only 14 something ain't right. Congratulations to Clarksville on the win and good luck in Austin  Your team committed way too many fouls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormtongue Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 At the TAPPS 2A girls state tournament, the semifinal between TCS and Shiner had 59 fouls called. Eight total kids fouled out and three more had four fouls. Â That game took FOREVERRRRRR. It was the worst thing I've ever had to sit through in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squid299 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 It isn't the refs job to even the foul difference. That's up to the teams to adjust. Being a ref is the hardest thing I've done. I also enjoy it more than anything I've done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWalum07 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Well said I agree. I think anyone who thinks it is easy should come try it or not comment on it. That is my opinion. It isn't the refs job to even the foul difference. That's up to the teams to adjust. Being a ref is the hardest thing I've done. I also enjoy it more than anything I've done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlSpangler Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I agree and since i've played, reffed and coached at the varsity level I can say it is hard but not impossible. I readily admit the hardest thing for me to ever call was a traveling violation. It just seems that the officiating this year in almost every game i've watched (even when my team wasn't playing) have been pretty rough. Have to agree with keeping the foul count going. It can be good and bad. When you see 10 fouls to 6 on the board nobody questions it. If you see 25 fouls to 6 then you have an issue. It can also go the other way and officials call based on what the scoreboard says. Just think more accountability and training would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWalum07 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Hate to see they lost but it was a good game. They are young and well coached they will be back. Roxton was just a little more experienced this year. yeah we should my dad a big Laneville fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWalum07 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Travels are rough but the block/charge is the hardest. I think a lot of the bad refs everyone refers to are a result of low number of officials. I know our chapter had the lowest number of guys we have had in awhile. I agree and since i've played, reffed and coached at the varsity level I can say it is hard but not impossible. I readily admit the hardest thing for me to ever call was a traveling violation. It just seems that the officiating this year in almost every game i've watched (even when my team wasn't playing) have been pretty rough. Have to agree with keeping the foul count going. It can be good and bad. When you see 10 fouls to 6 on the board nobody questions it. If you see 25 fouls to 6 then you have an issue. It can also go the other way and officials call based on what the scoreboard says. Just think more accountability and training would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomer Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Some refs iz just dum@#^^&. Thay shuldn bee calin lil leege. Tru storie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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